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Post by 2fw8212a on Sept 7, 2018 10:44:16 GMT -5
I'll add that I follow the Lord's lead to the best of my discernment in how I respond to others. OK, YOU ARE THE ONLY WHO DOES THAT. WE ALL DO NOT DO THAT. WE ARE ALL DOOMED TO HELL AND YOU ALONE IS WORTHY TO GO TO HEAVEN AS YOU KEEP YOUR WAYS PERFECT.
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Post by 2fw8212a on Sept 7, 2018 10:50:49 GMT -5
I'll add that I follow the Lord's lead to the best of my discernment in how I respond to others. OK, YOU ARE THE ONLY WHO DOES THAT. WE ALL DO NOT DO THAT. WE ARE ALL DOOMED TO HELL AND YOU ALONE IS WORTHY TO GO TO HEAVEN AS YOU KEEP YOUR WAYS PERFECT. "Let another man praise you, and not your own mouth; A stranger, and not your own lips." - Proverbs 27:2
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Post by 2fw8212a on Sept 7, 2018 10:54:28 GMT -5
OK, YOU ARE THE ONLY WHO DOES THAT. WE ALL DO NOT DO THAT. WE ARE ALL DOOMED TO HELL AND YOU ALONE IS WORTHY TO GO TO HEAVEN AS YOU KEEP YOUR WAYS PERFECT. "Let another man praise you, and not your own mouth; A stranger, and not your own lips." - Proverbs 27:2 "And whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted." - Matthew 23:12
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Post by PG4Him on Sept 7, 2018 11:01:25 GMT -5
Sister Lights, that was a crummy thing to say to me. I defended you in a lot of that post, and I really put my heart on my sleeve. Then I’m told to suck a lemon. I know you didn’t mean it like that. I know you’re not setting out to hurt people. But from the view over here, you could have saved yourself time by just slapping me in the face.
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Post by Abby-Joy on Sept 7, 2018 11:41:23 GMT -5
More thoughts occurred to me last night which may be helpful to us as group. Everyone -- tlsitd , Cletus , 2fw8212a , Abby-Joy , watchful , justinadams , John , frienduff , and myself -- please consider my words here very soberly. We don't want Sister Lights to judge our personal experience. Fair enough. But on the other side, we can't expect her to change her whole paradigm because we tell her we had an experience ten years ago. I suggest that from now on, personal experience (or lack thereof) from a person on the internet does not count as proof. When we use ourselves as evidence, we open ourselves to inspection. It's one thing to have a powerful move of the Spirit in real life, and maybe we can build up to that, but for now we're on a discussion board. If a particular topic will set off a firestorm of six people coming at you with rebukes, maybe don't introduce that topic with a long, heavy novel. This sets up those who reply to you where they have spend an hour sifting through it. Then you have six novels you're expected to read in reply, and there's no time. This is my primary complaint about manifestos. They stifle friendly banter, drag people into the weeds, and suck all the oxygen out of the rest of the website. Perhaps introduce a controversial topic by asking questions or stating your position. Let people engage you in a dialog on how you reached your conclusion. Be transparent on whether you're posting to hear feedback or you're mostly posting to teach. This is for all of us. You've seen me in the past put disclaimers on my posts when I didn't presume to have the right answer. If that's the case, say so. If you know what you know and it's not up for debate, say so. Maybe that will discourage unwanted criticism. If an OP says up front that he/she isn't looking for a debate, don't reply with an argument anyway. Let like-minded people do their like-minded thing until your feedback is asked for. If you think the teaching is dangerous, reach out to an administrator. If you disagree but it's not a big deal, move on to a part of the forum where you can be more productive. Every rebuke/criticism should come with a compliment. No one likes getting beaten up. People should have the liberty to admit something without it being turned into ammunition. If you are not willing to invest the emotional energy in helping a person receive revelation, then don't yell at them for not receiving it. We all agree that knowledge must come from Spirit. Let's grease those wheels with some heart-felt effort. If you don't have time to do this, don't dump-and-run a whole novel for them to deal with. The time we spend writing novels might be better spent in chatroom gatherings. Find the good in every single person here, celebrate that good, and engage them on their good as often as you can. If something is a non-starter, leave it be until the Spirit moves to break the ice. Basically what I'm saying is, let's put our money where our mouth is. If we're dealing with the alive, powerful word of God that comes from spiritual revelation, then we should stop relying on academic lectures to impart it. I am an open book for everyone here. You want prayer, ask me to join you in chat. You're frustrated, I'll give you my ear. You can't imagine how I possibly function with such bad doctrine, get to know me. That's my offer. Much love to you all. Thanks for the input.
My own perspective has been that I invest as much time and thought and care into my responses to others that I put into what I post. I do sometimes write lengthy posts, but I also give lengthy responses, which is why I cannot respond to every post. I didn't realize that every member was expecting a personal response from me to what they post on a thread. I don't expect this from others when I post on other people's threads; and I don't assume they're snubbing me if they don't reply. People post what they post, they respond if they want to respond or have time to respond. That is how I have seen it. I apply the same view to what I post that I do to what other's post.
There didn't appear to be any problem with the length of my posts so long as the people reading them agreed with them. The problem arose when they did not. Then I became a proud, know-it-all, lecturer.
Why are my posts long? Because I'm a thorough person and want to include all of the information and Scripture I believe should be included, rather than adding things later as people respond. I read lengthy articles on the internet, and I agree with some things and disagree with others. I was assuming that others were reading my longer posts in the same way. I was not assuming that they felt like they had to respond to everything in the post. If they had a comment about one part of it, they would respond to that and I would answer them about that. If they had a comment about another part of it, they would respond to that and I would respond to that, and so on. And that was what was happening. I didn't give that much thought to the matter. Perhaps I'm not skilled in using a message board, but I didn't realize that the expectation was for posts to be a certain length or for the poster to reply to every person who responded or that those who responded were trying to respond to the whole post, rather than parts of it that they either agreed or disagreed with.
None of my threads are closed to debate, but how I respond and whether I respond is my discretion, as the Lord leads and time permits, as it is with all of the members here. I may agree with others' comments or I may not. That doesn't mean I'm not open to discussion of the topic. I might change my mind on something, I might not. That goes for anyone here and what they post.
I'll tell you, I don't give this amount of thought to the reading of other people's threads. I have my honest doubts about the length of my posts being the real issue here, although I concede that that does pose a practical challenge to responding to them, IF the other members really feel like they have to respond to every single point of whatever I post at once---which I doubt.
I think the bigger issue here is people's perceptions of me, and their feelings about what I post, not the length of my posts. If I wrote a lengthy post about something that most of the members here agreed with, I wouldn't likely hear a peep about its length or my tone or my attitude. I'm pretty sure of that. Tell me I'm wrong.
Whether I post something long or something short, if people have a perception of or opinion about me and are resentful toward me on account of that perception or opinion, whatever I post will be read through that lens. I'm open to changing my posting style, but I really don't think that's the problem here, and I'm pretty sure we all know it, as some have made their feelings known very clearly.
All I can say to that is what I've said already.
I think the main difficulty in your particular lengthy posts is that the reader eventually finds out that there is always a criticism and that (you believe that) you are right and they are wrong. It's not worth reading a post where the result is always the same. I had long stopped reading your posts because of that... zero discussion unless someone agrees with you 100% (because you are infallible and all-knowing). But the issue with you and I arose when you quoted one of my comments to another member concerning our experiences of speaking in tongues... you asked a question of "how can you justify speaking in tongues in church where men are present?" I responded more than once with Scripture to support my views, and also posed the question that you are here in a forum that has both male and female members. How is it any different? Should you not (according to your interpretation of a few Scriptures) be keeping silent and not teaching men? It seems to me that on a core level, you do not adhere to that belief or interpretation. Based on this observation, and knowing you will defend it as somehow different, I know this will lead nowhere but to more disputes... which I am not interested in.
I think that this will not resolve except with prayer and a willingness to allow Holy Spirit to do a work. I really am sorry to put things so blunt, sister... but I don't think you'll get it by me trying to be careful. I wish there was some resolution and a way for you to accept your brothers and sisters. I have to wonder why you stay if you yourself have stated that there can be no true fellowship unless we all agreed. I don't ask because I want you to leave, but it just leaves me scratching my head .... again, I am sorry...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2018 11:46:02 GMT -5
Eph 4:2-7
With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love;
Endeavouring to keep the UNITY OF THE SPIRIT in the bond of peace.
There is ONE BODY, and ONE SPIRIT, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
But unto EVERY ONE OF US is given grace according to the MEASURE OF THE GIFT of Christ.
There is no mention of doctrine here. We cannot manufacture unity by our own efforts…..it’s a by-product of the Holy Spirit. The more we grow up into the Head, the more we are in the Spirit, the more unity we just naturally HAVE…..not make, but have. Fellowship is the same, it’s something we HAVE with one another by the same means. So fellowship likewise is not something we do or make, its something we have IN THE SPIRIT. The Body of Christ has many disagreements over doctrine, while still belonging to Christ and being Christians. If we are of one SPIRIT, in Christ, then we should have some degree of unity and continue being Christians in spite of having different understandings of doctrine. As long as we’ve got the foundation in common, there is much else of doctrine that has to do with growth. Much of the Spirit has to do with growth as well. I think we just need to get over ourselves sometimes, you know?…..everything doesn’t depend on “me”. There is a bit of wisdom from Oswald Chambers that might be helpful with these things: Living a full and overflowing life does not rest in bodily health, in circumstances, nor even in seeing God’s work succeed, but in the perfect understanding of God, and in the same fellowship and oneness with Him that Jesus Himself enjoyed. But the first thing that will hinder this joy is the subtle irritability caused by giving too much thought to our circumstances. Jesus said, “…the cares of this world,…choke the word, and it becomes unfruitful” (Mark 4:19). And before we even realize what has happened, we are caught up in our cares. All that God has done for us is merely the threshold— He wants us to come to the place where we will be His witnesses and proclaim who Jesus is.
Have the right relationship with God, finding your joy there, and out of you “will flow rivers of living water” (John 7:38). Be a fountain through which Jesus can pour His “living water.” Stop being hypocritical and proud, aware only of yourself, and live “your life…hidden with Christ in God” (Colossians 3:3). A person who has the right relationship with God lives a life as natural as breathing wherever he goes. The lives that have been the greatest blessing to you are the lives of those people who themselves were unaware of having been a blessing.
He has written something about holiness not being conscious of itself as well, which is also worth pondering…can’t find it right now or I would be glad to post it. Not being conscious of ourselves is a big part of what simplicity means, childlikeness and the simplicity of the gospel, the simplicity of Christ. Healing is also often a vital part of our journey of getting to that place of simplicity and unselfconsciousness. I think I understand what you are trying to say, but I still think you're somewhat misunderstanding what I have been saying about this. There is holiness by virtue of our being in Christ, consecrated unto God and having His Spirit in us. But our practical holiness depends not only upon the virtues of the Spirit that come from His being in us, but also upon instruction from the Scriptures, which teach us how to live.
Jesus said, "Sanctify them in the truth; Your word is truth." (John 17:17) That word is not merely the gospel, but everything that comes along with the gospel, which is the doctrine that instructs us in how to live that new life unto God. "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you." (Matthew 28:19,20)
Even with virtue, we have a choice to walk by the Spirit or according to the flesh; it's not automatic or guaranteed all of the time, which is why we are told to put the attitudes and desires of the one to death and live according to the other, and why Jesus told us to watch ourselves. Paul said he beat his body into subjection (not in an ascetic way), speaking about exercising self-discipline to live according to the Spirit and persevering in his obedience to Christ. That's not effortless.
Perhaps you think that by focusing on having right doctrine that you'll become preoccupied with words and rules and start living like a Jew under the Law of Moses and missing the forest for the trees somehow. That's what I'm getting the sense that you and perhaps others are thinking I'm encouraging.
Letting God work through us and and lead us and being adherent to correct doctrine are not mutually exclusive but complementary. God wants us to understand and apply His doctrine, because it is by doing that more and more perfectly that we understand Him better and know how to follow His lead. Otherwise, we will be following, more or less, what we think God wants us to do, and believing about God what we think He is like, rather than knowing the truth about these things.
Do you think I am an anxious, tightly wound person who is constantly thinking about rules? No, I am not. I am mindful of what the Scriptures teach, and the Holy Spirit guides me in applying them to my life. He works with our knowledge of His word. It's not effortless (I do have to be mindful of the word and of the will of the Spirit, and continue to read the word daily for understanding and instruction), but it's not self-preoccupied and self-powered either, but rather Christ-focused and God-powered. We work together, and I have both peace and joy in living for Jesus Christ, according to His word, though it is not necessarily the joy of pleasure or the peace of mind that comes from having things the way I want them. It is the peace and joy of knowing that I am doing what pleases Him and of delighting in what He delights in, of knowing that He is in control of my life and works in all things for the good of those who love Him, that He is my resource for everything, and that I have eternity with Him to look forward to.
His Spirit directs me to do, to remember, and gives me the desire to do, what He teaches me from that word. But I make the choice to study it and apply it; and He blesses me for doing so.
I don't believe that sanctification works while we're sleeping and doing whatever we want to do. God renews our minds with knowledge by teaching us His truth, which is His doctrine, and conforms us to His own likeness by the same (Ephesians 4:13-15). With our increasing knowledge comes increasing grace to live according to the same, and the desire to do so. This is a wonderful experience, and desirable, to one who truly reckons him or herself dead to him or herself.
But doctrinal knowledge can be intimidating or undesirable to us if we don't have this mentality as we should, because it comes with responsibility to apply it; and if we still think of ourselves as our own, even in a little way, this will not be something we desire to increase in, because we will see it as limiting our freedom. The truth is, no Christian is free. And the sooner we really comprehend that, and the better we hold on to that truth, the greater our joy in the Lord will be as we live for Him completely, because we won't see His will as a conflict with our will, but will rather desire Him to live His life more and more abundantly in and through us, and we will take joy in that, just as Jesus Christ Himself did in doing the will of the Father on earth. His Spirit lives in us to do the same.
...And He died for all, that those who live might no longer live for themselves but for Him who for their sake died and was raised. (2 Corinthians 5:15)
I have been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me. (Galatians 2:20)
In my comment above I was only addressing doctrine as it pertains to unity...trying to show according to the scripture I quoted, that doctrine is not mentioned as a factor in unity. (Certainly didn't intend to undermine the importance of doctrine in general when it is brought in love.) The rest is mostly just an offer of some general wisdom to glean from it what we will, with the help of the Lord...it is what He gave me to share. It might be time to give this thread a break and let things settle in people's hearts for a bit, at least that's what I intend to do. People can get tired when a discussion is long and intense and need a break, otherwise it can start to become unproductive. As I think it was frienduff who mentioned, only God can give the increase, and that often takes time and that we leave things in His hands. I think most of us might be reaching a point of frustration and need to step away for a rest and push the reset button.
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Post by John on Sept 7, 2018 11:47:21 GMT -5
More thoughts occurred to me last night which may be helpful to us as group. Everyone -- tlsitd , Cletus , 2fw8212a , Abby-Joy , watchful , justinadams , John , frienduff , and myself -- please consider my words here very soberly. We don't want Sister Lights to judge our personal experience. Fair enough. But on the other side, we can't expect her to change her whole paradigm because we tell her we had an experience ten years ago. I suggest that from now on, personal experience (or lack thereof) from a person on the internet does not count as proof. When we use ourselves as evidence, we open ourselves to inspection. It's one thing to have a powerful move of the Spirit in real life, and maybe we can build up to that, but for now we're on a discussion board. If a particular topic will set off a firestorm of six people coming at you with rebukes, maybe don't introduce that topic with a long, heavy novel. This sets up those who reply to you where they have spend an hour sifting through it. Then you have six novels you're expected to read in reply, and there's no time. This is my primary complaint about manifestos. They stifle friendly banter, drag people into the weeds, and suck all the oxygen out of the rest of the website. Perhaps introduce a controversial topic by asking questions or stating your position. Let people engage you in a dialog on how you reached your conclusion. Be transparent on whether you're posting to hear feedback or you're mostly posting to teach. This is for all of us. You've seen me in the past put disclaimers on my posts when I didn't presume to have the right answer. If that's the case, say so. If you know what you know and it's not up for debate, say so. Maybe that will discourage unwanted criticism. If an OP says up front that he/she isn't looking for a debate, don't reply with an argument anyway. Let like-minded people do their like-minded thing until your feedback is asked for. If you think the teaching is dangerous, reach out to an administrator. If you disagree but it's not a big deal, move on to a part of the forum where you can be more productive. Every rebuke/criticism should come with a compliment. No one likes getting beaten up. People should have the liberty to admit something without it being turned into ammunition. If you are not willing to invest the emotional energy in helping a person receive revelation, then don't yell at them for not receiving it. We all agree that knowledge must come from Spirit. Let's grease those wheels with some heart-felt effort. If you don't have time to do this, don't dump-and-run a whole novel for them to deal with. The time we spend writing novels might be better spent in chatroom gatherings. Find the good in every single person here, celebrate that good, and engage them on their good as often as you can. If something is a non-starter, leave it be until the Spirit moves to break the ice. Basically what I'm saying is, let's put our money where our mouth is. If we're dealing with the alive, powerful word of God that comes from spiritual revelation, then we should stop relying on academic lectures to impart it. I am an open book for everyone here. You want prayer, ask me to join you in chat. You're frustrated, I'll give you my ear. You can't imagine how I possibly function with such bad doctrine, get to know me. That's my offer. Much love to you all. Thanks for the input.
My own perspective has been that I invest as much time and thought and care into my responses to others that I put into what I post. I do sometimes write lengthy posts, but I also give lengthy responses, which is why I cannot respond to every post. I didn't realize that every member was expecting a personal response from me to what they post on a thread. I don't expect this from others when I post on other people's threads; and I don't assume they're snubbing me if they don't reply. People post what they post, they respond if they want to respond or have time to respond. That is how I have seen it. I apply the same view to what I post that I do to what other's post.
There didn't appear to be any problem with the length of my posts so long as the people reading them agreed with them. The problem arose when they did not. Then I became a proud, know-it-all, lecturer.
Why are my posts long? Because I'm a thorough person and want to include all of the information and Scripture I believe should be included, rather than adding things later as people respond. I read lengthy articles on the internet, and I agree with some things and disagree with others. I was assuming that others were reading my longer posts in the same way. I was not assuming that they felt like they had to respond to everything in the post. If they had a comment about one part of it, they would respond to that and I would answer them about that. If they had a comment about another part of it, they would respond to that and I would respond to that, and so on. And that was what was happening. I didn't give that much thought to the matter. Perhaps I'm not skilled in using a message board, but I didn't realize that the expectation was for posts to be a certain length or for the poster to reply to every person who responded or that those who responded were trying to respond to the whole post, rather than parts of it that they either agreed or disagreed with.
None of my threads are closed to debate, but how I respond and whether I respond is my discretion, as the Lord leads and time permits, as it is with all of the members here. I may agree with others' comments or I may not. That doesn't mean I'm not open to discussion of the topic. I might change my mind on something, I might not. That goes for anyone here and what they post.
I'll tell you, I don't give this amount of thought to the reading of other people's threads. I have my honest doubts about the length of my posts being the real issue here, although I concede that that does pose a practical challenge to responding to them, IF the other members really feel like they have to respond to every single point of whatever I post at once---which I doubt.
I think the bigger issue here is people's perceptions of me, and their feelings about what I post, not the length of my posts. If I wrote a lengthy post about something that most of the members here agreed with, I wouldn't likely hear a peep about its length or my tone or my attitude. I'm pretty sure of that. Tell me I'm wrong.
Whether I post something long or something short, if people have a perception of or opinion about me and are resentful toward me on account of that perception or opinion, whatever I post will be read through that lens. I'm open to changing my posting style, but I really don't think that's the problem here, and I'm pretty sure we all know it, as some have made their feelings known very clearly.
All I can say to that is what I've said already.
You completely missed the point. Nobody cares that you write long posts and nobody expects you to answer every single comment addressed to you. If you simply said nothing in response to a post, nobody would think anything, but what some are pointing out is how you will sometimes reply to a post by simply telling the person how wrong they are and that you don't have time to explain why. The point some were making is that you take the time to write very lengthy posts, and you will take the time to say things like that, but you won't take the time to properly discuss issues you have with something you consider wrong using scripture. I have seen you do that on more than one occasion. You replied to one person and just told them there was so much wrong with their post, you didn't know where to begin, and you didn't feel the Lord wanted you to spend that much time discussing it. If you felt that way, why say anything? If you are going to take the time to tell someone they are wrong, it seems like common courtesy to explain why from the Bible. You claim to be standing on the Word rather than experience, so you should have no problem discussing it with them using scripture.
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Post by John on Sept 7, 2018 11:49:15 GMT -5
I am going to go use what Justin said in a parable on worthy . It just came so clear to me as I was reading the tale of WHO is really the ONE WHO IS DEAF . That was a good illustration, and humorous too.
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Post by PG4Him on Sept 7, 2018 11:50:09 GMT -5
When a gun runs out of bullets, you either pause to reload or you find another gun. You don’t just stand there pulling the trigger hoping it will work. The early manifestoes were how we got to know each other, how we learned each other’s overall theology, and most of them were very basic. Now we’re at the point of getting in the weeds. Now the gun is misfiiring into the crowd. I am humbly suggesting it is time for a different approach.
Of course this is my perspective, and I don’t know how many will except it. I am just trying to be as clear and transparent as I can. I am looking for ways to bring peace. But that’s OK. Other people have to be themselves.
There’s no long-term hurt here that I cannot get over. I’m a big girl. At least we understand each other.
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Post by John on Sept 7, 2018 11:59:59 GMT -5
Sister Lights, that was a crummy thing to say to me. I defended you in a lot of that post, and I really put my heart on my sleeve. Then I’m told to suck a lemon. I know you didn’t mean it like that. I know you’re not setting out to hurt people. But from the view over here, you could have saved yourself time by just slapping me in the face. I thought you were very gracious in trying to answer the OP and suggest a solution. Based on this thread and other things I have read, here is how I am taking this. If I am wrong, all Lights has to do is tell me I am wrong and what she is really trying to say. I am taking it that Lights has the absolute truth on the things she said because God revealed it to her through the Bible. There is no question she is right, and those who disagree is wrong, so there is no reason for her wasting time debating the matter using scripture because she knows already she is right and everything is spiritually discerned. What she wants us to do is seek God for the correct understanding that she knows we lack because we disagree with her, and then God will show us Lights is right and we are wrong and we can have peaceful fellowship.
tlsitd, if I am correct about this, there is no solution. I believe the Lord has shown me you are wrong on certain matters, and nothing will change that. I would imagine others feel the same way. Not everything. There are things we just believe and our views could change, but on some things, and it won't change. The difference is that we are not telling you that if you will simply go into your prayer closet, you will be shown we were right and then we can have fellowship.
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Post by Abby-Joy on Sept 7, 2018 12:05:51 GMT -5
Sister Lights, that was a crummy thing to say to me. I defended you in a lot of that post, and I really put my heart on my sleeve. Then I’m told to suck a lemon. I know you didn’t mean it like that. I know you’re not setting out to hurt people. But from the view over here, you could have saved yourself time by just slapping me in the face. I thought you were very gracious in trying to answer the OP and suggest a solution. Based on this thread and other things I have read, here is how I am taking this. If I am wrong, all Lights has to do is tell me I am wrong and what she is really trying to say. I am taking it that Lights has the absolute truth on the things she said because God revealed it to her through the Bible. There is no question she is right, and those who disagree is wrong, so there is no reason for her wasting time debating the matter using scripture because she knows already she is right and everything is spiritually discerned. What she wants us to do is seek God for the correct understanding that she knows we lack because we disagree with her, and then God will show us Lights is right and we are wrong and we can have peaceful fellowship.
tlsitd, if I am correct about this, there is no solution. I believe the Lord has shown me you are wrong on certain matters, and nothing will change that. I would imagine others feel the same way. Not everything. There are things we just believe and our views could change, but on some things, and it won't change. The difference is that we are not telling you that if you will simply go into your prayer closet, you will be shown we were right and then we can have fellowship.
Thank you! That is exactly, 100%, how it comes across to me. Very frustrating....
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Post by PG4Him on Sept 7, 2018 12:12:06 GMT -5
If Lights is quite sure that God literally directed her to say everything she said on this thread, I’m not sure why we should expect her to soften it.
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Post by PG4Him on Sept 7, 2018 12:26:25 GMT -5
Listen you guys, I’m with you in spirit, but I gotta run. My book is on a deadline, and the fall of Japan won’t write about itself. I’ll check in later tonight.
No hard feelings, really. I can handle anything as long as I know where I stand. You guys have good judgment. I’ll stand with your decisions.
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Post by Abby-Joy on Sept 7, 2018 12:28:37 GMT -5
Listen you guys, I’m with you in spirit, but I gotta run. My book is on a deadline, and the fall of Japan won’t write about itself. I’ll check in later tonight. No hard feelings, really. I can handle anything as long as I know where I stand. You guys have good judgment. I’ll stand with your decisions. Completely understandable... sounds like tedious work, but very interesting!!
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Post by John on Sept 7, 2018 12:36:20 GMT -5
Listen you guys, I’m with you in spirit, but I gotta run. My book is on a deadline, and the fall of Japan won’t write about itself. I’ll check in later tonight. No hard feelings, really. I can handle anything as long as I know where I stand. You guys have good judgment. I’ll stand with your decisions. I feel the same way in that we just need to understand the situation. If we know that Lights is saying that everything she writes is the oracles of God, and there is no need to discuss it because she is right, we can choose to read it or ignore it, but we won't bother to respond to it because there is nothing left to say. If on the other hand what I said in that other post about my conclusions of what she is saying was wrong, then we can deal with it based on truth.
Best wishes with your book.
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