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Post by frienduff on Oct 1, 2018 8:16:21 GMT -5
But without faith it is impossible to please him; for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Hebrews 11:6
When the Bible speaks of faith as a fruit of the Spirit, it is speaking of an active faith, not just a feeling like I kind of believe in something. I have heard many say they believe in the Lord. Big deal! So do the devils, and they tremble in his presence. You believe in God. Congratulations! You are not like the fool that said in his heart there is no God.
The kind of faith that is a fruit of the Spirit will cause us to believe God and act accordingly. You will have a spirit like Joshua and Caleb, knowing God is able and will do what he says. I would imagine all the spies believed in the existence of God, but not all had real faith. But the word did not profit them , NOT BEING MIXED WITH FAITH . So you see , how that by works faith is perfected . Abraham HAD Faith and it was seen , in that HE OBEYED GOD and He was fully persuaded that God could raise His son back up.
Yes , God had told Abraham something . It goes like this , and in ISSAC shall thy seed be blessed . Issac was the child of promise . AND Abraham knew that . THUS Abraham knew something else . THAT God who cannot lie , would raise his son back up to fulfill HIS OWN PROMISE . OH YES , Paul knew it too . It is why he said ACCOUNTING that GOD would raise him up , which in a sense he did . Talk about faith and trust in GOD . Abraham actually KNEW , and Had faith IN GOD . As we all are to have as well. But remember their is something to this faith . WORKS of obedience unto GOD , unto the SPIRIT will PERFECT FAITH . So it goes to be said , that sin does the opposite , IT WILL Harden a heart . Exhort one another daily , lest any becomes hardened through the deceitfulness of sin . And we know that those words written by those men WERE the work of the Spirit in those men to BUILD up the body . FOR TRULY it is by grace , the exhortations , all of it , IS the work of the SPIRIT within the members . SO to remind and say TO DO , is not works earning , IT really was and is the SPIRIT of grace at work in the members . and now we must , more than ever, exhort one another by the Spirit , with sound doctrine and good wholesome reminders in that bible as well. Worthy is being invaded now by more of those new evangelism types that are inclusive . And if we don't take our stand NOW , it will not only invade here , it will overcome even this site . Their just is no stopping this delusion . BUT WE CAN RESIST it , BUT ONLY by our Faith in Christ . I also remind us , read more of the bible and get refreshed in it daily .
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Post by frienduff on Oct 1, 2018 8:25:05 GMT -5
One quick reminder . For I do not think it too long before inclusivism will rear its head even in here. They will approach with examples like this . They will say things like JESUS was a friend of sinners , that he ate with them and hung out with them . But seem to forget something . Every one who had invited JESUS to dinner , or every place JESUS went . HE always rebuked , corrected , reminded . THEY seem to forget that part , and make the focus be on lets get along . I seen them do it with many other things too . this is a ploy by the enemy to get us unequally yoked . And I did all to remind badjao , but that man wont hear it . We don't just hang out with unbelievers . IF we are invited to dinner , and we go , We must be as our LORD , who the instant he seen error , CORRECTED it . JESUS even rebuked those who invited Him to eat . He did . This new way of evangelism , its nothing more than a ploy of satan for us to just gather with unbelievers or other religions and make friends with them . Our mission is not to make friends, ITS TO WIN SOULS . and we must never forget that . One could say about this new evangelism THESE WORDS . OH evangelizers of the new way , you give tithes , you do good works , BUT YOU have left off the WEIGHTER matter of which pertains to eternal life for you no longer evangelize Christ . THIS YOU SHOULD have done , without leaving the good works undone . PONDER THAT .
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Post by John on Oct 1, 2018 8:36:28 GMT -5
If we continue to hold to the Bible as being God's Word, and never waiver on the fact there is no way to be saved outside of faith in Christ Jesus, the all inclusive doctrine won't stand.
While some message boards are dominated by the false OSAS doctrine and they seek Hermes for direction, they don't seem to be all inclusive in the leadership. They allow a certain number of sparring partners in because strife keeps people posting, which increases revenue. It is more controlled than it appears on the surface. They rely on strife and we rely on people being seekers of truth and being here for Christian fellowship. One style caters to the flesh and one to the Spirit. Their chat is about fellowship, but not the message board.
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Post by frienduff on Oct 1, 2018 8:44:16 GMT -5
If we continue to hold to the Bible as being God's Word, and never waiver on the fact there is no way to be saved outside of faith in Christ Jesus, the all inclusive doctrine won't stand.
While some message boards are dominated by the false OSAS doctrine and they seek Hermes for direction, they don't seem to be all inclusive in the leadership. They allow a certain number of sparring partners in because strife keeps people posting, which increases revenue. It is more controlled than it appears on the surface. They rely on strife and we rely on people being seekers of truth and being here for Christian fellowship. One style caters to the flesh and one to the Spirit. Their chat is about fellowship, but not the message board.
And something else I have noticed , and this will be many peopled downfall . Rome preaches rome jehovas preach the denial of the diety of Christ and focus on some false doctrine . other faiths do the same . Mormons preach joseph smith and lies seven day Adventists preach the Sabbath . BUT WE WHO ARE HIS , PREACH JESUS . You notice that too, don't you butero . Men preach mens doctrines as the PRECEPTS of GOD . And so few preach CHRIST and Him crucified , HIS sayings and them to be honored and kept . And now Rome is infecting and has been infiltrating all churches with inclusivism . So those who trust in their men , their leaders , AND NOT ONLY IN GOD , will be swept in time right into this delusion that will and does lead to the beast . All we can do , is by grace , keep exhorting , keep reminding of the true foundation , the STONE who is Christ alone . And learn that bible well . For no matter how old those words are , THEY AS GOOD TODAY as they were back then . AND THEY apply to us TODAY as much as they did to the church back then .
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Post by frienduff on Oct 1, 2018 8:46:42 GMT -5
A spiritual war of all out delusion is increasing and can only be resisted by FAITH in OUR LORD . They know how to reach each group and will pander to its ways , in order to win them to their agenda . A great flood has been released spiritually from the mouth of the dragon to cause and lead the world right to his appointed BEAST who is to rise .
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Post by frienduff on Oct 1, 2018 8:53:09 GMT -5
Now , lets keep encouraging . I was truly led to remind us of this today . It may seem like It was not on this topic , but nevertheless, it had to get said . Now throw those hands up and praise the LORD one and all. We must be spiritually about the work of our LORD . with swords girded as the temple made not by hands keeps getting added by the gospel stone upon stone . Like the jews once built that temple , its one hand on the stone with morter , OTHER HAND ready with the sword . Cause the battle is not over and it will soon get far worse .
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Post by frienduff on Oct 1, 2018 8:54:36 GMT -5
IF the watchmen see the sword coming and warn not ........... WELL by grace , Some of us SEE exactly what is coming , and must do all now to blow the trumpet and warn out against it .
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Post by John on Oct 1, 2018 9:07:57 GMT -5
This thread is dealing with the fruit of the Spirit. So far, we have discussed peace, temperance and now faith in the true God. Do we see that reflected here? There is always room for improvement, but I think it is overall.
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Post by PG4Him on Oct 1, 2018 9:14:55 GMT -5
We’ve had great contributions from everyone. Lots of information to meditate on! Not sure what Giller wants to do next.
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Post by Giller on Oct 1, 2018 9:33:19 GMT -5
Well I am thinking of since I seen many mention humility and humbleness, how about we go into the fruit of meekness.
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Post by John on Oct 1, 2018 9:57:12 GMT -5
Well I am thinking of since I seen many mention humility and humbleness, how about we go into the fruit of meekness. I suppose we would do best to start with the definition. Meek means quiet and gentle, as well as submissive. If you look it up in the Greek Dictionary, it means mildness, gentleness and kindness. It is not really the same as humility, but is more about being nice to people, treating them with kindness. Meekness is something Jesus mentions in the beatitudes in his Sermon on the Mount.
Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth. Matthew 5:5
Imagine a world full of people that are kind to each other! That is exactly what we will have in the future when Christ comes to rule and reign.
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Post by 2fw8212a on Oct 1, 2018 9:57:49 GMT -5
They rely on strife and we rely on people being seekers of truth and being here for Christian fellowship.
One style caters to the flesh and one to the Spirit. Their chat is about fellowship, but not the message board.
I believe a Christian forum must focus on Christian behavior and attitudes, not in discussing things that will only promote strife.
I believe we have to focus on truth and love. Words that can save and edify souls that is what really matters.
"Let no corrupt word proceed out of your mouth, but what is good for necessary edification, that it may impart grace to the hearers." - Ephesians 4:29
A Christian forum must offer things useful for Christians and those who want to know the truth and become one as well.
When the forum focus too much on things that will not edify, then the problems starts to appear and vain debates multiply.
The result is that unbelievers and seekers will not see it positively and may run away.
And if the people do not care about growing as a Christian, when a wolf comes with heresy then they hardly be able to spot it or to answer it appropriately.
But when people are posting edifying things and focused on truth, then heresies will have no place and easily disproved.
And it should not be done harshly, just stay calm and speak truth in love. Truth is evident, you do not need to become desperate or shout.
"...Not by might nor by power, but by My Spirit,’ Says the Lord of hosts." - Zechariah 4:6
"But if all prophesy, and an unbeliever or an uninformed person comes in, he is convinced by all, he is convicted by all." - 1 Corinthians 14:24
"And thus the secrets of his heart are revealed; and so, falling down on his face, he will worship God and report that God is truly among you." - 1 Corinthians 14:25
And it is much better to discuss about good and edifying things.
To debate about vain things is not only waste of time, they can give you unnecessary headache and can promote destruction and disunity.
It is the Holy Spirit who attract people to the truth, and if we walk in the Spirit then those who are brought by Him will come, and will stay.
"No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day." - John 6:44
Blessings in Jesus' name!
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Post by PG4Him on Oct 1, 2018 10:09:04 GMT -5
“If you think meekness is weakness, try being meek for a week.” —a preacher I heard somewhere
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Post by John on Oct 1, 2018 10:09:29 GMT -5
They rely on strife and we rely on people being seekers of truth and being here for Christian fellowship.
One style caters to the flesh and one to the Spirit. Their chat is about fellowship, but not the message board.
I believe a Christian forum must focus on Christian behavior and attitudes, not in discussing things that will only promote strife.
I believe we have to focus on truth and love. Words that can save and edify souls that is what really matters.
"Let no corrupt word proceed out of your mouth, but what is good for necessary edification, that it may impart grace to the hearers." - Ephesians 4:29
A Christian forum must offer things useful for Christians and those who want to know the truth and become one as well.
When the forum focus too much on things that will not edify, then the problems starts to appear and vain debates multiply.
The result is that unbelievers and seekers will not see it positively and may run away.
And if the people do not care about growing as a Christian, when a wolf comes with heresy then they hardly be able to spot it or to answer it appropriately.
But when people are posting edifying things and focused on truth, then heresies will have no place and easily disproved.
And it should not be done harshly, just stay calm and speak truth in love. Truth is evident, you do not need to become desperate or shout.
"...Not by might nor by power, but by My Spirit,’ Says the Lord of hosts." - Zechariah 4:6
"But if all prophesy, and an unbeliever or an uninformed person comes in, he is convinced by all, he is convicted by all." - 1 Corinthians 14:24
"And thus the secrets of his heart are revealed; and so, falling down on his face, he will worship God and report that God is truly among you." - 1 Corinthians 14:25
And it is much better to discuss about good and edifying things.
To debate about vain things is not only waste of time, they can give you unnecessary headache and can promote destruction and disunity.
It is the Holy Spirit who attract people to the truth, and if we walk in the Spirit then those who are brought by Him will come, and will stay.
"No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day." - John 6:44
Blessings in Jesus' name! Some of what can be discussed depends on the maturity of the believers. There are some who really desire to discuss deep doctrinal matters. They are able to have a discussion without strife. On the other hand, you have some that only want to dominate, and if they don't get their way, they will throw a tantrum and possibly even start with personal attacks. That is what I have observed happening at other message boards. It depends largely on the company you are keeping. That is one thing I am trying to make sure doesn't get out of hand here. If someone cannot discuss things in a peaceful manner without hurling insults in the forums, they must be dealt with. Thankfully, that hasn't been a major problem thus far at Narrow Way.
There is a warning in scripture about not debating things like useless genealogies that create more questions than answers. I am not going to waste time arguing over things like that, but at the same time, I have spent personal time in the past tracing genealogies for my own profit. That was sometime back when I was going through the Bible and taking notes as I was reading it.
The main thing is, we don't want to behave in a way that shows us bickering constantly, and brings a reproach on this ministry in the eyes of our visitors, and makes this place unpleasant for the members. That is why I was asking about whether or not we are exhibiting the fruit of the Spirit in our forums? I know we haven't done so in absolute perfection, but I see it on display most of the time, and perhaps if we keep it in mind when we post, we will set a good example going forward.
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Post by Giller on Oct 1, 2018 11:21:03 GMT -5
This is what I found in the Strong's concerning meekness:
(Strong's concordance)
(G4236
πρᾳότης
praotēs
prah-ot'-ace
From G4235; gentleness; by implication humility: - meekness.
Total KJV occurrences: 9)
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