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Post by frienduff on Oct 9, 2018 10:23:20 GMT -5
"Jesus knew life was too short to waste his valuable time with the wrong people. To reach his highest potential, he had to surround himself with eagles, with people who pushed him forward, people that made him better, people that helped him soar." OSTEEN SAID THAT >
TOTAL BLASHPHEMY . as THOUGH GOD needed help from man . As though MAN could help make GOD better , help him soar . AND this is the stuff folks love . this man has one of the largest churches . This would be at best a laughable joke , IF IT WERE NOT so seriously blasphemous . POWER of POSITIVE THOUGHT . that don't sound VERY POSTIVE TO ME . Here is something positive to reflect on , CAST ALL YOUR AFFECTIONS and CARES on CHRIST above , not on things of this earth . BUT their positive thought is total opposite to that .
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Post by frienduff on Oct 9, 2018 10:25:33 GMT -5
IF JESUS had to spend his time around folks who could make him better or reach his potential . HE WOULD HAVE BEEN ISOLATED FROM ALL MANKIND . Who on earth , can help GOD to reach HIS potential . THIS is such blasphemy . AND if we notice the ones who JESUS did hang around , HIS DESCIPLES , THEY never ONCE taught him ANYTHING . HE TUAGHT THEM . HE helped them . NOT the other way around .
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Post by Abby-Joy on Oct 9, 2018 10:31:11 GMT -5
Quote: "Jesus knew life was too short to waste his valuable time with the wrong people. To reach his highest potential, he had to surround himself with eagles, with people who pushed him forward, people that made him better, people that helped him soar." - Joel Olsteen
TOTAL BLASHPHEMY . as THOUGH GOD needed help from man . As though MAN could help make GOD better , help him soar . AND this is the stuff folks love . this man has one of the largest churches . This would be at best a laughable joke , IF IT WERE NOT so seriously blasphemous . POWER of POSITIVE THOUGHT . that don't sound VERY POSTIVE TO ME . Here is something positive to reflect on , CAST ALL YOUR AFFECTIONS and CARES on CHRIST above , not on things of this earth . BUT their positive thought is total opposite to that . Oh my goodness, frienduff ... I was really concerned at first! I started reading and thought it was you making a statement... but then I realized you were quoting Joel Olsteen - phew!! YES, that is complete and total blasphemy!!
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Post by Abby-Joy on Oct 9, 2018 10:38:46 GMT -5
IF JESUS had to spend his time around folks who could make him better or reach his potential . HE WOULD HAVE BEEN ISOLATED FROM ALL MANKIND . Who on earth , can help GOD to reach HIS potential . THIS is such blasphemy . AND if we notice the ones who JESUS did hang around , HIS DESCIPLES , THEY never ONCE taught him ANYTHING . HE TUAGHT THEM . HE helped them . NOT the other way around . Exactly! Jesus (and His disciples) kept company with "publicans and sinners" and was accused of being a "gluttonous man" and a "winebibber."
Luke 7:34
“The Son of man is come eating and drinking; and ye say, Behold a gluttonous man, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners!”
Matthew 9:10-13 10 And it came to pass, as Jesus sat at meat in the house, behold, many publicans and sinners came and sat down with him and his disciples.
11 And when the Pharisees saw [it], they said unto his disciples, Why eateth your Master with publicans and sinners?
12 But when Jesus heard [that], he said unto them, They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick.
13 But go ye and learn what [that] meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
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Post by 2fw8212a on Oct 9, 2018 10:53:55 GMT -5
IF JESUS had to spend his time around folks who could make him better or reach his potential ... Help?! Peter tried to help, and what happened:
"Then Peter took Him aside and began to rebuke Him, saying, “Far be it from You, Lord; this shall not happen to You!”" - Matthew 16:22
Peter tried to convince Him that He should not go to the cross.
"But He turned and said to Peter, “Get behind Me, Satan! You are an offense to Me, for you are not mindful of the things of God, but the things of men.” - Matthew 16:23
"It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing..." - John 6:63
"...Father, if it is Your will, take this cup away from Me; nevertheless not My will, but Yours, be done." - Luke 22:42
"So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God." - Romans 8:8
"For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, so that you do not do the things that you wish." - Galatians 5:17
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Post by John on Oct 9, 2018 10:59:43 GMT -5
I can't believe anyone that heard that would continue to follow such a man! Pure blasphemy!
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Post by Cletus on Oct 9, 2018 20:51:10 GMT -5
well its a good thing because if Jesus had wasted his time on people like tax collectors, even midget tax collectors who have to climb up in a tree to see, or ordinary sinners, or a Samaritan woman at the well, or adulterous women caught in the act about to get stoned, then who would Pastor (snake)Oilsteen have to talk about?
I mean... Jesus would never eat with sinners. And surely Jesus would have never believed They That Wait Upon The Lord, Shall Renew Their Strength, They Shall Mount Up With Wings of Eagles, They Shall Run and Not Be Weary... no no no... Jesus knew He had to elevate His status with those who had mansions, such as Mr. Joel Oilsteen. And when you got a mansion you got big bills. can you imagine how much it cost to cool that big ole house in the summer? texas heat. Mmmmm mmm. big bills needs big money.... who needs an eternal soul, just sell that thing. gimme that money.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2018 6:19:09 GMT -5
Makes you wonder what bible that man is preaching from. Or maybe he just made it up. All I know is that he is not preaching the Christian faith. Because here is how Jesus reached His highest potential......He suffered, died and rose again. In other words, in obedience to the Father Jesus died to His earthly potential and rewards in order to gain the heavenly. And just think, if we follow Him we will be called to do likewise. The devil offered Jesus all the kingdoms of the world if only He would sell His soul (talk about reaching His potential, hey)....but He resisted the temptation. His contemporaries offered Jesus the kingship of the nation....that's more potential than most will ever even come close to having a chance to realize....but He fled the temptation.....and instead obeyed the will of the Father, accepting a crown of thorns and the cross of shame and reproach. It is an upward call alright....but not an earthly one....and the cross is the Way to reach it. The ONLY Way. It is the narrow Way that leads to life which few find. "If ye would be my disciple, take up your cross, DENY yourSELF and follow Me." Not realize yourself, but deny yourself. It's completely opposed to the ways of man and the world...His ways are not like our ways, they are higher....hence it is an upward call, not a worldly one.
Jesus was not talking about masochistic self-inflicted suffering, but simply obeying (following) the Lord, His will and leading in our life as we go along, and we will find as He leads us through this valley of the shadow of death, that our earthly potential and desires get put on the altar (cross) and burned away (crucified), and that this is the Way to resurrection life. "If we suffer, we shall also reign with Him."
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2018 6:23:09 GMT -5
IF JESUS had to spend his time around folks who could make him better or reach his potential . HE WOULD HAVE BEEN ISOLATED FROM ALL MANKIND . Who on earth , can help GOD to reach HIS potential . THIS is such blasphemy . AND if we notice the ones who JESUS did hang around , HIS DESCIPLES , THEY never ONCE taught him ANYTHING . HE TUAGHT THEM . HE helped them . NOT the other way around . Exactly! Jesus (and His disciples) kept company with "publicans and sinners" and was accused of being a "gluttonous man" and a "winebibber."
Luke 7:34
“The Son of man is come eating and drinking; and ye say, Behold a gluttonous man, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners!”
Matthew 9:10-13 10 And it came to pass, as Jesus sat at meat in the house, behold, many publicans and sinners came and sat down with him and his disciples.
11 And when the Pharisees saw [it], they said unto his disciples, Why eateth your Master with publicans and sinners?
12 But when Jesus heard [that], he said unto them, They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick.
13 But go ye and learn what [that] meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.Amen sister...Jesus didn't hang around with eagles, He hung around with ugly ducklings. Someone please give that poor man a bible to read!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2018 6:27:36 GMT -5
I can't believe anyone that heard that would continue to follow such a man! Pure blasphemy!
I think they are literally under a spell. "Who has bewitched you?" And the man himself needs deliverance from the devil he sold himself to in order to gain the world.
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Post by PG4Him on Oct 10, 2018 9:24:13 GMT -5
You guys don't know the half of Joel Osteen's blasphemous teachings.
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Post by frienduff on Oct 10, 2018 9:36:39 GMT -5
Makes you wonder what bible that man is preaching from. Or maybe he just made it up. All I know is that he is not preaching the Christian faith. Because here is how Jesus reached His highest potential......He suffered, died and rose again. In other words, in obedience to the Father Jesus died to His earthly potential and rewards in order to gain the heavenly. And just think, if we follow Him we will be called to do likewise. The devil offered Jesus all the kingdoms of the world if only He would sell His soul (talk about reaching His potential, hey)....but He resisted the temptation. His contemporaries offered Jesus the kingship of the nation....that's more potential than most will ever even come close to having a chance to realize....but He fled the temptation.....and instead obeyed the will of the Father, accepting a crown of thorns and the cross of shame and reproach. It is an upward call alright....but not an earthly one....and the cross is the Way to reach it. The ONLY Way. It is the narrow Way that leads to life which few find. "If ye would be my disciple, take up your cross, DENY yourSELF and follow Me." Not realize yourself, but deny yourself. It's completely opposed to the ways of man and the world...His ways are not like our ways, they are higher....hence it is an upward call, not a worldly one. Jesus was not talking about masochistic self-inflicted suffering, but simply obeying (following) the Lord, His will and leading in our life as we go along, and we will find as He leads us through this valley of the shadow of death, that our earthly potential and desires get put on the altar (cross) and burned away (crucified), and that this is the Way to resurrection life. "If we suffer, we shall also reign with Him." This should be posted in every church , on every web site , even in the constitution and in all the world for all to see. THIS IS SPOT ON RIGHT SISTER . And were it not for Gods grace, we would not know this . ITS JUST another reason to truly PRAISE GOD . as though I could even begin to number the reasons to praise HIM. I suppose that if a man were to sit and try and number the reasons to PRAISE GOD , it would be like counting the grains of sand of the entire world . SO many a man cannot number . SO , YEAH LETS PRAISE THE LORD AGAIN and AGAIN .
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Post by frienduff on Oct 10, 2018 9:41:30 GMT -5
You guys don't know the half of Joel Osteen's blasphemous teachings. the more appropriate title to that is the power of I AINT . GOD is I AM and only in Christ we can overcome the evil . GOD is I AM and we are the saved . The saved who kneel before the GREAT I AM who has given us HOPE in CHRIST . these are the things we should be teaching . NOT the junk joel does .
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Post by frienduff on Oct 10, 2018 9:43:33 GMT -5
This power of I AM the teach , IT truly is the message of the aints . NOTICE NO S as in SAINTS , but AINTS . Cause no one who loves the world like joel does , has the LOVE of the FATHER IN THEM and those who desire this , do not either . But we going to expose the lies and sound out the TRUTH . OH its LORD PRAISING and hand RAISING TIME .
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Post by frienduff on Oct 10, 2018 9:51:36 GMT -5
I can't believe anyone that heard that would continue to follow such a man! Pure blasphemy!
Well on that note , LOOK at how many follow Kenneth Copeland . And yet here is what he once said .
I had to TELL GOD to get His son OUT OF MY WAY so I could get the job done . or words to that effect . YEAH butero . YEAH . these men are so full of themselves . AS though Kenneth is the POWER of GOD HIMSELF . Had to get the son out of his way , SO HE COULD DO . talk about blasphemy , yet these some of the largest churches . I cringe to bring some of the things benny hinn said , and others too . These folks DO NOT KNOW GOD . I know today that would be considered JUDGING . IT AINT , ITS TRUE and men like these and others need to be exposed and warned against for the sake of the people . WE WANT no lamb near them .
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