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Post by frienduff on Nov 27, 2018 11:48:38 GMT -5
I took a look at the mixed up video of Francis Chan's called "Are You Destroying The Church." It contains some truth, some Scripture twisting, and some error. He implies a unity at all cost mentality, or "god" will destroy those speaking out against his version of so called "unity." A tactic that I've seen for many years by those who are in error used to "silence" any nah sayers, with a "curse of death from God" mentality if you were dare to speak up
LOOK at what that spirit is doing to them . UNITY at all costs and GOD WILL DESTROY those who speak out against this unity . I warned us this was coming . I truly hope I did all I could to have warned enough . I knew that all inclusive monster would and will lead all right to the beast who is to rise . Even Kenneth Copeland had hinted at this last year . This spirit is truly preparing even so called christain churches to flat out betray us . IF they are already beginning to go under this , that God is the one behind this unity and that God will destroy us who speak against it . HOW EASY will it be for the one who plays god and comes and says , NOW IS THE TIME TO RID THE EARTH . ITS WHERE THIS IS ALL HEADED . We must avoid this false unity delusion at all costs or take our soul it will . Just thought you all might want to know how fast its increasing now . and who will be enemy number one of the entire world and its united religions . We will be . This is leading to the greatest tribulation that has ever been or wil be again . Let no man or woman buy the lie and if anyone is in churches whose focus is becoming more on unity , GET OUT NOW . GET OUT NOW .
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Post by Abby-Joy on Nov 27, 2018 12:25:21 GMT -5
Brother, look at this.... craziness! I stopped watching these guys probably 10 years or so ago. But I've seen videos revealing their unity with Rome and the pope.
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Post by frienduff on Nov 27, 2018 14:51:10 GMT -5
Notice that too sister . seems like every false prophet is now GOING under THE END TIME DELUSION of this unity . I warn us all , all not in the lambs book of life , will worship the beast and this unity inclusive is of that spirit which causes the world to worship the beast . SIS, its not coming , ITS ALREADY BEGAN . And we must fight more than ever to contend for the truth faith and do all to warn out against this , to expose the deeds of its dire evil . For sister , it comes in under one heck of a false sham . It starts with an idea of love that is contrary to GOD , yet many cannot see it . THEN it grows worse and worse and worse and worse . Sister , as I long said , THE VATICAN would not be PLEASED WITH YOU . OH you and I and others who love the LORD it will cause the world to rise up against the true lambs . IN TIME . SISTER in time we will see it with our own eyes as we have been totally cast out , warned against and then as their hate grows , they will kill many true lambs . and think they do gods will .
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Post by Abdicate on Nov 27, 2018 18:25:22 GMT -5
Sooooo many I've listened to over the years have gone off the rails. Every single time they speak they want money or a new jet. I don't listen to anyone anymore save the Holy Spirit.
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Post by John on Dec 3, 2018 11:05:32 GMT -5
Brother, look at this.... craziness! I stopped watching these guys probably 10 years or so ago. But I've see videos revealing their unity with Rome and the pope.
The devil comes to steal, kill and destroy, and appears as an angel of light while he does it.
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Post by Abdicate on Dec 4, 2018 17:45:20 GMT -5
Brother, look at this.... craziness! I stopped watching these guys probably 10 years or so ago. But I've see videos revealing their unity with Rome and the pope.
The devil comes to steal, kill and destroy, and appears as an angel of light while he does it.
There's a LOT of wolves in sheep's clothing within the body of Christ. It's nothing new for sure.
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Post by Giller on Dec 8, 2018 2:13:59 GMT -5
In 1995, I and a pastor friend, and a bunch of Christians, went across the states to check out certain preachers.
One meeting we went to was in Forth Worth , Texas.
It was a Copeland crusade, which he had people like Jerry Savelle there.
In one of the meetings, there was a certain singer singing, and all eyes were focused on this singer, but my pastor at the time, noticed people in the background flashing these lights, and my pastor had discerned something that was about to take place, and he said to this Roger guy, which Roger told me, of that my pastor said that the singer was about to say that he sees an angel, and not long after my pastor discerned this, that is exactly what the singer said, that he saw an angel.
And there was no purpose for the angel being there, no message, just that the singer seen an angel, it seemed it was for show, but also for deception, trying to make themselves look spiritual.
And at the time I use to receive the Believer's voice of victory magazine from Copeland, and in one article, it mentioned this meeting, and it said how people seen a great light, and this singer saw an angel, which served no purpose whatsoever.
What it was, is a lie, lying to the people, and making themselves look spiritual.
It was a blatant lie.
And I think it was since then , or close to that time that I stopped watching Copeland, and stopped receiving his magazine, although I was already discerning things concerning him at the time to some degree.
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Post by Cletus on Dec 8, 2018 3:04:56 GMT -5
yo mamma dont have a plane... LOLZ... oh Tali nailed it.
I have seen duplantis preach in person... its exactly like Tali said. they took up THREE offerings and after the first they came back and in a nutshell said it wasnt good enough and they took up another offering....then at the end of the sermon took yet another collection.
Duplantis also added to words in the bible speaking out of genesis... saying the words seeding seed... he said if you give 100 today by friday you will have 1000... if you give 1000 tonight by friday you will have 10,000 in the bank ... he said the annointing of 10 fold return is upon him and how his ministry was fertile soil to tithe to. those people on the last sermon jumped up grabbing wallets and checkbooks. they fell for it. they gave because they thought they would get back because he used and twisted scripture.
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Post by Giller on Dec 8, 2018 8:15:49 GMT -5
yo mamma dont have a plane... LOLZ... oh Tali nailed it. I have seen duplantis preach in person... its exactly like Tali said. they took up THREE offerings and after the first they came back and in a nutshell said it wasnt good enough and they took up another offering....then at the end of the sermon took yet another collection. Duplantis also added to words in the bible speaking out of genesis... saying the words seeding seed... he said if you give 100 today by friday you will have 1000... if you give 1000 tonight by friday you will have 10,000 in the bank ... he said the annointing of 10 fold return is upon him and how his ministry was fertile soil to tithe to. those people on the last sermon jumped up grabbing wallets and checkbooks. they fell for it. they gave because they thought they would get back because he used and twisted scripture. Hi Cletus, it makes me think of something. One time my pastor friend, had received a letter from a ministry, that if you give such and such, that you would get back 10 or 100 fold. So my pastor friend wrote them back and told them (answering according to their foolishness) for them to give him such and such and they would receive 10 or 100 fold. He meant it in a way so to answer them according to their folly. He never did receive a response back.
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Post by Cletus on Dec 8, 2018 13:20:26 GMT -5
yo mamma dont have a plane... LOLZ... oh Tali nailed it. I have seen duplantis preach in person... its exactly like Tali said. they took up THREE offerings and after the first they came back and in a nutshell said it wasnt good enough and they took up another offering....then at the end of the sermon took yet another collection. Duplantis also added to words in the bible speaking out of genesis... saying the words seeding seed... he said if you give 100 today by friday you will have 1000... if you give 1000 tonight by friday you will have 10,000 in the bank ... he said the annointing of 10 fold return is upon him and how his ministry was fertile soil to tithe to. those people on the last sermon jumped up grabbing wallets and checkbooks. they fell for it. they gave because they thought they would get back because he used and twisted scripture. Hi Cletus, it makes me think of something. One time my pastor friend, had received a letter from a ministry, that if you give such and such, that you would get back 10 or 100 fold. So my pastor friend wrote them back and told them (answering according to their foolishness) for them to give him such and such and they would receive 10 or 100 fold. He meant it in a way so to answer them according to their folly. He never did receive a response back. well of course not... those prosperity ministry people know its better to receive than to give. they just want to help everyone!
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Post by John on Dec 9, 2018 18:08:16 GMT -5
Back in the 80s, I used to watch Kenneth Copeland some, but his doctrine has gotten continually worse over time. I don't think he was ever right, but it has become for obvious that he is false. I don't know how anyone believes what he is teaching today.
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Post by Cletus on Dec 9, 2018 18:58:42 GMT -5
In a nutshell they do not seek God, they do not have oil for their lamp, and so the enemy and the fallen human nature come in to play. oh how their ears itch, these days. they will not endure sound doctrine. just as in the OT they said to the prophets... dont prophesy to us bad stuff... we want to hear only good things, and blessings upon us. they want God to be a genie in a bottle, or a santa clause... there is nothing new under the sun. And all the while God is waiting and saying this:
Jas 1:5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.
Pro 8:1 Doth not wisdom cry? and understanding put forth her voice? Pro 8:2 She standeth in the top of high places, by the way in the places of the paths. Pro 8:3 She crieth at the gates, at the entry of the city, at the coming in at the doors. Pro 8:4 Unto you, O men, I call; and my voice is to the sons of man. Pro 8:5 O ye simple, understand wisdom: and, ye fools, be ye of an understanding heart. Pro 8:6 Hear; for I will speak of excellent things; and the opening of my lips shall be right things. Pro 8:7 For my mouth shall speak truth; and wickedness is an abomination to my lips. Pro 8:8 All the words of my mouth are in righteousness; there is nothing froward or perverse in them. Pro 8:9 They are all plain to him that understandeth, and right to them that find knowledge. Pro 8:10 Receive my instruction, and not silver; and knowledge rather than choice gold. Pro 8:11 For wisdom is better than rubies; and all the things that may be desired are not to be compared to it.
Pro 2:1 My son, if thou wilt receive my words, and hide my commandments with thee; Pro 2:2 So that thou incline thine ear unto wisdom, and apply thine heart to understanding; Pro 2:3 Yea, if thou criest after knowledge, and liftest up thy voice for understanding; Pro 2:4 If thou seekest her as silver, and searchest for her as for hid treasures; Pro 2:5 Then shalt thou understand the fear of the LORD, and find the knowledge of God. Pro 2:6 For the LORD giveth wisdom: out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding. Pro 2:7 He layeth up sound wisdom for the righteous: he is a buckler to them that walk uprightly. Pro 2:8 He keepeth the paths of judgment, and preserveth the way of his saints. Pro 2:9 Then shalt thou understand righteousness, and judgment, and equity; yea, every good path. Pro 2:10 When wisdom entereth into thine heart, and knowledge is pleasant unto thy soul; Pro 2:11 Discretion shall preserve thee, understanding shall keep thee: Pro 2:12 To deliver thee from the way of the evil man, from the man that speaketh froward things; Pro 2:13 Who leave the paths of uprightness, to walk in the ways of darkness; Pro 2:14 Who rejoice to do evil, and delight in the frowardness of the wicked; Pro 2:15 Whose ways are crooked, and they froward in their paths: Pro 2:16 To deliver thee from the strange woman, even from the stranger which flattereth with her words; Pro 2:17 Which forsaketh the guide of her youth, and forgetteth the covenant of her God. Pro 2:18 For her house inclineth unto death, and her paths unto the dead. Pro 2:19 None that go unto her return again, neither take they hold of the paths of life. Pro 2:20 That thou mayest walk in the way of good men, and keep the paths of the righteous. Pro 2:21 For the upright shall dwell in the land, and the perfect shall remain in it. Pro 2:22 But the wicked shall be cut off from the earth, and the transgressors shall be rooted out of it.
Pro 4:1 Hear, ye children, the instruction of a father, and attend to know understanding. Pro 4:2 For I give you good doctrine, forsake ye not my law. Pro 4:3 For I was my father's son, tender and only beloved in the sight of my mother. Pro 4:4 He taught me also, and said unto me, Let thine heart retain my words: keep my commandments, and live. Pro 4:5 Get wisdom, get understanding: forget it not; neither decline from the words of my mouth. Pro 4:6 Forsake her not, and she shall preserve thee: love her, and she shall keep thee. Pro 4:7 Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding. Pro 4:8 Exalt her, and she shall promote thee: she shall bring thee to honour, when thou dost embrace her.
They do not seek God, or life, or truth. there is a way that seems right to a man... but that way leads to destruction, and death.
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