Cletus
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Post by Cletus on Dec 15, 2018 17:35:18 GMT -5
only a day huh? well make me feel bad why dontcha... LOL!
no I am just kidding. There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. but i think that period for me went on for months and months.
i see salvation as a three step process. step one... justification or justified or just-if-i'd-never sinned. then there is sanctification. and this is that we are instantly set apart from the world and to God... but also an ongoing process that as we walk in Christ we continually become more and more like Him. Mere Christianity, if you will. His life for ours. as we die He lives more in us. this happens until the last step. Glorification. We get a new body, a new name, a robe, and we become like Him and we never die or cry or have pain.
i do not want to ever think i have achieved, but rather that i must continue to press on/in to God and His kingdom, and His righteousness. As long as i have breath there is opportunity to gain more of His image and likeness in me.
I believe that we have been saved, but also that we are being saved. some may not be able to accept that as it is written based upon wording, but if you meditate on it and these scriptures it does make sense. 2Ki 18:6 For he clave to the LORD, and departed not from following him, but kept his commandments, which the LORD commanded Moses.
Luk 9:23 And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me.
John the baptist spoke this when he was questioned, and He exalted Christ(go read the whole passage)... Joh 3:30 He must increase, but I must decrease.
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Post by frienduff on Dec 15, 2018 17:44:24 GMT -5
Cletus , that is the beauty of it . I was raised on no church . God just drew me to Christ and put me in ONE BOOK. I bet you know what book that is and was . THE BIBLE . Either way we saved my friend . we saved . And those who are CHRIST LOVE HIM . WE LOVE HIS SAYINGS . OH WE LOVE and EMBRACE ALL THAT HE SAID and taught the apostels to observe and they taught others to observe . OH ITS ALL ABOUT THE KING CHRIST JESUS . Its why I got a problem with those OSAS ones , who keep saying OH john fifteen IS JUST an allegory and other things too . IF WE DONT LOVE JESUS SAYINGS , WELL WE DONT LOVE JESUS . simple .
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Cletus
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Post by Cletus on Dec 15, 2018 18:03:34 GMT -5
Cletus , that is the beauty of it . I was raised on no church . God just drew me to Christ and put me in ONE BOOK. I bet you know what book that is and was . THE BIBLE . Either way we saved my friend . we saved . And those who are CHRIST LOVE HIM . WE LOVE HIS SAYINGS . OH WE LOVE and EMBRACE ALL THAT HE SAID and taught the apostels to observe and they taught others to observe . OH ITS ALL ABOUT THE KING CHRIST JESUS . Its why I got a problem with those OSAS ones , who keep saying OH john fifteen IS JUST an allegory and other things too . IF WE DONT LOVE JESUS SAYINGS , WELL WE DONT LOVE JESUS . simple . you know i am so grateful to not have been raised in the church... and because of this... and because i went to God for truth and knowledge and wisdom and didnt grow up hearing all the false teachings in the church i am better off for it. i never had conformed to or grew up hearing these things and watching the things creep in slowly and just accept it and believe it... i have heard people say if the preacher says it then its right. they trust a man before double checking the bible and asking God what is truth?... The Word is Truth. and if we just ask He shows us. in a way i am glad the streets raised me.
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Post by Abby-Joy on Dec 16, 2018 2:09:49 GMT -5
Well, frienduff, Saturn might have been better. Phew! Good night, y'all.
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Post by frienduff on Dec 16, 2018 13:15:55 GMT -5
Well, frienduff , Saturn might have been better. Phew! Good night, y'all. You know what abby . You right . but let us spell that satturn . with a double T. For they have SAT under the wrong men and take TURNS preaching false doctrine .
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Post by John on Dec 20, 2018 11:05:51 GMT -5
Cletus , that is the beauty of it . I was raised on no church . God just drew me to Christ and put me in ONE BOOK. I bet you know what book that is and was . THE BIBLE . Either way we saved my friend . we saved . And those who are CHRIST LOVE HIM . WE LOVE HIS SAYINGS . OH WE LOVE and EMBRACE ALL THAT HE SAID and taught the apostels to observe and they taught others to observe . OH ITS ALL ABOUT THE KING CHRIST JESUS . Its why I got a problem with those OSAS ones , who keep saying OH john fifteen IS JUST an allegory and other things too . IF WE DONT LOVE JESUS SAYINGS , WELL WE DONT LOVE JESUS . simple . I am not going to mince words about it anymore. OSAS is a dangerous and heretical doctrine that has led countless numbers of people into hell, and when the future trials and persecutions come, they will have no concern over things like taking the mark of the beast or denying Christ, as they don't believe they can lose their salvation. We have witnessed their wicked fruit in bearing a false witness with no fear of God, and they will justify denying the Lord or anything else they must do to survive.
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Post by John on Dec 20, 2018 11:08:25 GMT -5
Cletus , that is the beauty of it . I was raised on no church . God just drew me to Christ and put me in ONE BOOK. I bet you know what book that is and was . THE BIBLE . Either way we saved my friend . we saved . And those who are CHRIST LOVE HIM . WE LOVE HIS SAYINGS . OH WE LOVE and EMBRACE ALL THAT HE SAID and taught the apostels to observe and they taught others to observe . OH ITS ALL ABOUT THE KING CHRIST JESUS . Its why I got a problem with those OSAS ones , who keep saying OH john fifteen IS JUST an allegory and other things too . IF WE DONT LOVE JESUS SAYINGS , WELL WE DONT LOVE JESUS . simple . you know i am so grateful to not have been raised in the church... and because of this... and because i went to God for truth and knowledge and wisdom and didnt grow up hearing all the false teachings in the church i am better off for it. i never had conformed to or grew up hearing these things and watching the things creep in slowly and just accept it and believe it... i have heard people say if the preacher says it then its right. they trust a man before double checking the bible and asking God what is truth?... The Word is Truth. and if we just ask He shows us. in a way i am glad the streets raised me. What kept me was never placing too much confidence in men, but measuring everything by my KJV Bible.
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Post by frienduff on Dec 20, 2018 17:51:51 GMT -5
Cletus , that is the beauty of it . I was raised on no church . God just drew me to Christ and put me in ONE BOOK. I bet you know what book that is and was . THE BIBLE . Either way we saved my friend . we saved . And those who are CHRIST LOVE HIM . WE LOVE HIS SAYINGS . OH WE LOVE and EMBRACE ALL THAT HE SAID and taught the apostels to observe and they taught others to observe . OH ITS ALL ABOUT THE KING CHRIST JESUS . Its why I got a problem with those OSAS ones , who keep saying OH john fifteen IS JUST an allegory and other things too . IF WE DONT LOVE JESUS SAYINGS , WELL WE DONT LOVE JESUS . simple . I am not going to mince words about it anymore. OSAS is a dangerous and heretical doctrine that has led countless numbers of people into hell, and when the future trials and persecutions come, they will have no concern over things like taking the mark of the beast or denying Christ, as they don't believe they can lose their salvation. We have witnessed their wicked fruit in bearing a false witness with no fear of God, and they will justify denying the Lord or anything else they must do to survive.
The reason OSAS is dangerous is due to the fact them folks are denying JESUS own sayings . THEY deny what paul flat out told the church about having to continue in HIS goodness or be cut off . Not a one of them keeps Jesus sayings . THAT is what worries me the most . Its one thing to say TRUTH like ITS grace alone that we are saved . BUT they can holler they love JESUS , yet all of the ones came after me , for simply quoating JESUS own sayings . Butero , when I ffirst came on worthy I already knew Osas was dangerous . BUT I just preached JESUS sayings and for that was attacked like a pit bull would a pork chop . THAT alone showed me , no matter what they say , THEY do not LOVE JESUS . I mean I can boot aside OSAS and just preach JESUS sayings alone and get attacked and mauled for just that . That is what scares me to death for so many . An acronym was never taught to the early church . EVEN GOD himself warnes repent or else , TO THE CHURCHES . ITS a way into a bad mindset . WHY on earth would peter even say IT was possible to have come and fallen away and paul too . YET they try so hard , so very hard to use their herumetics , to use their exergis , TO DENY SCRIPTURE . I aint mixing words , ITS what they do they deny scripture itself . OSAS led to the minsets we see today . OH no matter how much we sin , we cant sin enough or out sin GODS LOVE . YALL KNOW ITS TRUE . YALL DO . Now not all will put it like that . But I seen even enoob say some wacked out stuff . I SEEN even Shiloh go into a realm of total denial . He called the branches that get cast out , SUCKER VINES , in other words they can still produce good fruit etc , still saved . HOW ON EARTH can anyone be saved or still saved , IF THEY CUT OUT OF THE TREE, WHICH IS JESUS . MAKES no sense . Makes no sense , but Shiloh is revered as a god on that site . As a god to some of these because he is so well trained and sounds like he knows his stuff . REMEMBER when I said THEY Can keep all their hermes and exegis , THEY CAN . ALLL I need or anyone needs IS THE HOLY SPIRIT . far as I am concerned I had sooner burn every hermuentics ever done . The folks got no idea , ITS ALL OF THE FLESH . ITS ALL OF THE FLESH and NOT THE SPIRIT . ITs dangerous and it will kill a soul that sits under it .
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