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Post by frienduff on Dec 22, 2018 21:53:08 GMT -5
And I had the feeling a while back , we had many guests from worthy investigating this group . Just a feeling I had . It happened on the night when the battle was at its fullest , I seen sixteen guests here . I am sure we have had some who visited and then went and told others . And I am sure they got their own line of defense and are probably gathering as many as they can right now and warning them behind the scenes to have nothing to do with some of us . Well, that is sad . They can stick with acronyms , hermes and exergis , ME , I stick with JESUS , the SPIRIT and the BIBLE .
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Post by PG4Him on Dec 22, 2018 22:23:14 GMT -5
If they try to bring that weak sauce here they will not find a cushy place where the mods protect them. Theyll see the back of my hand.
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Post by justinadams on Dec 23, 2018 5:39:37 GMT -5
Its in the general section . And its called is it possible to have been raised in a church ..........and something about falling away and returning . HEADS UP . I don't think Hebrews and blood brought are exactly loving what I said . But they did show up .
I will have a look at it. I am on moderator review for showing that George was being dishonest in things he said. After seeing that Hebrews 13:8 still has full access, even though the moderators are fully aware he doesn't believe the SOF, I had enough of the lies and corruption and told them I wanted nothing more to do with WCF. I expect I will be removed from the forums, but anyone can still read, so I will check it out as a non-member. You are likely on borrowed time there. At some point, you will be accused of doing or saying something wrong, whether that is true or not.
I was fairly badly treated by Mr Big-gun and few of his hench-persons on Worthy. Yeah I got banned from some posts but never a word against me officially. I guess I dodged most of the vitriol, though I must say it was a very sad witness to others that could take the time to read and stomach such a deplorable thing. Make us look really bad. I made it onerous for them by ignoring most of the nasty stuff aimed at me. Sometimes you have to hold your peace and let the Lord fight your battles. After a while they mostly left me alone. (even David feigned madness to escape a tricky situation). When I depart this wonderful planet of the Lord's, I do not care a whit who remembers me since the Lord is the one with The Book and no other.
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Post by John on Dec 23, 2018 8:38:37 GMT -5
I will have a look at it. I am on moderator review for showing that George was being dishonest in things he said. After seeing that Hebrews 13:8 still has full access, even though the moderators are fully aware he doesn't believe the SOF, I had enough of the lies and corruption and told them I wanted nothing more to do with WCF. I expect I will be removed from the forums, but anyone can still read, so I will check it out as a non-member. You are likely on borrowed time there. At some point, you will be accused of doing or saying something wrong, whether that is true or not.
I was fairly badly treated by Mr Big-gun and few of his hench-persons on Worthy. Yeah I got banned from some posts but never a word against me officially. I guess I dodged most of the vitriol, though I must say it was a very sad witness to others that could take the time to read and stomach such a deplorable thing. Make us look really bad. I made it onerous for them by ignoring most of the nasty stuff aimed at me. Sometimes you have to hold your peace and let the Lord fight your battles. After a while they mostly left me alone. (even David feigned madness to escape a tricky situation). When I depart this wonderful planet of the Lord's, I do not care a whit who remembers me since the Lord is the one with The Book and no other. I made a serious mistake. I should have known better because of how Letters was done. You remember he was falsely accused of saying Davida wasn't saved, when he did no such thing. When I confronted George with that, he didn't care, as he had told Letters what hoops he had to jump through to get off moderator review, and it was his fault that he was in that position. Never mind the actions were based on a lie. Anyway, back to what happened to me.
George had just gotten through saying that the standard was the Statement of Faith in a thread in the political section, and was led to believe that if you agree with it, you are okay. I knew I was in agreement with the SOF. He tried to get me to answer a yes or no question about a verse in the Bible. When I answered his question, I mentioned how there is nothing in the SOF that said I must believe as he did. Then he trotted out the SOF and claimed that me, of all people, doesn't believe in the inerrancy of scripture because I disagreed with that verse. I proved the verse didn't read as he claimed it did, and I do believe in inerrancy of scripture, and was left thinking that was the end of the matter. That was Friday night.
I showed up Monday morning, and found I was placed in the Outer Court as holding to "Non-Conformist Theology." I knew I agreed with the SOF, so "non-conformist" to what? It had to be George. I couldn't even send a message to George or the mods, as they had cut off my messenger. I was going to be respectful and deal with this in private, but couldn't. That is when I started that thread about "Non-Conformist To What?" in the section for those who are non-conformist. I was told that I had been given 3 days to change my opinion or else by George, and when I failed to do so, he did that.
First of all, I left Friday night around 9 PM Eastern, and he hadn't said that at the time. I returned Monday morning around 6:30 AM, which is not even 2 1/2 days, so even if that was true, that was a lie. I wasn't given three days to react, and hadn't signed in during that time, so I knew nothing about it. I am not going to say I believe something I don't to get along, so it wouldn't have made a difference in that way, but at least things could have been discussed quietly had I been able to speak with them in private. When I showed I wasn't at odds with the SOF, they started claiming I was at odds with the "heart" of the SOF or "spirit" of the SOF, which was nonsense. It is like how liberal/activist judges justify making things up about the U.S. Constitution. That is how we got Roe vs. Wade and other abominable decisions. They simply wrote things into the text that wasn't there. That is what George did. None of them could get me to say anything that was really in opposition to the SOF, so they made it up.
There is no doubt there will be more that will be done like I was. They will get tire of Discipler777, because he has been so strong against OSAS. I had already told him he was welcome to check us out. He is still over there right now, but I can about guarantee you that he will eventually wind up on moderator review, where those they are trying to get rid of are sent to die, or he will be banned down the road. Frienduff is getting on their last nerve, and they will probably make up phony charges against him before long. Getting me to leave using these tactics will only serve to embolden them, and cause them to increase in their dishonest tactics. I have been observing these people for well over a decade, and seen them do things that are deplorable to their members. In some cases, the people just disappeared and nobody knew what happened to them. They cut off your messenger, and your ability to communicate with others at the forum, and they figure that is the end of the matter. You go quietly into the night. People think you just left on your own accord because you got bored or moved on to new things. Often times, they created phony charges and banned you or placed you on moderator review.
One of their favorite tactics was to get a person to discuss things in private and then charge them with something like being abusive to the moderators. They did that to me once. I was told that I couldn't use the word "cross dress" in the forums as it offended members that were doing this, so I challenged that moderator behind the scenes. One by one, they all took the side of the one who placed the ban on me for simply using the proper word to describe what was taking place. Then this former servant named Candace who had been away for months shows up, makes light of what I said, and my response was that if someone is going to be okay with saying men are wrong for cross dressing, yet they are okay with women doing it, that is hypocritical. She comes back the next day, and accuses me of calling all the moderators hypocrites and doing it to be intentionally hurtful. She said that she prayed about it, and felt I needed a time out for a month to learn how to talk to others. I got a one month ban for a false charge that was officially called "abusive behavior behind the scenes." That led me to know what was happening to all those others who were being banned, but had done nothing wrong to my knowledge in the forums.
While this is going on, another moderator wanted to show me how all powerful they were, and he mentioned how they knew that since I had been there, I had signed on from over 200 IP addresses. He said that to show that they keep information like that on everyone, where they know if they come back in there and try to sign up under a different name. What he didn't realize was this gives out a huge secret about their security. If someone wanted to be hidden, and re-sign up after being banned, they would need a new computer or tablet, and to make sure to use an IP address they had never used in the past. Anyway, he was showing how all powerful they were. The reason I had signed on from so many places was I travelled all over the country and used truck stop and motel IP addresses. But the main point I was making is, they have been abusive to any members they have that won't conform to what they are trying to force everyone to accept, OSAS. They will also do this to people that don't accept their political views as well. I am a conservative Republican, so no problem there for me, but others who are not got the same treatment those of us who reject OSAS get all the time. They did that to Katyann. I never liked or agreed with her politics, but she never violated their rules in the forums, so they had to have charged her with some phony violation behind the scenes. What is really going on there is shocking.
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Post by 2fw8212a on Dec 23, 2018 12:55:40 GMT -5
You go quietly into the night. People think you just left on your own accord because you got bored or moved on to new things. And they will probably tell this:
"They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us; but they went out that they might be made manifest, that none of them were of us." - 1 John 2:19There were moments in private I felt that I would have to deny my faith to stay there. Then obviously, I would have to leave.
Some even said to me (not exactly): I can see you as an encourager here, but you just need some polishing.
If that so called polishing would remove the truth from me then: No, thanks!
"...choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God than to enjoy the passing pleasures of sin..." - Hebrews 11:25...they have been abusive to any members they have that won't conform to what they are trying to force everyone to accept, OSAS. I will talk about some things I have been noticing there...
The way they give wolves mouth are something that shocks me. How can a believer with discernment let so many wolves harm people there?!
Seriously, I have seen some prophesying heresies and encouraging people to go against the truth.
And I have seen those who fight FOR the truth to be blocked, receive warnings, and the like.
Another thing that caught my attention are the people who work in the ministry (especially in the forums), or are moderators or have some important role there...
I have seen some are not ready at all for what they are doing, and many do not even know what they are talking about.
I just cannot understand how someone with discernment and supposedly led by the Spirit can make so many mistakes.
"But a hireling, he who is not the shepherd, one who does not own the sheep, sees the wolf coming and leaves the sheep and flees; and the wolf catches the sheep and scatters them." - John 10:12
Perhaps, the problem is bigger than we may think and they are just as blind as the wolves they hear. I would want to be mistaken, but it is what it looks like.
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Post by 4hizglory37 on Dec 23, 2018 17:56:26 GMT -5
The love of many will grow cold......friends we are seeing all of this unfold....they thought they were doing these things for God.....
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Post by John on Dec 24, 2018 19:11:35 GMT -5
The love of many will grow cold......friends we are seeing all of this unfold....they thought they were doing these things for God..... Perhaps, but I wonder. Do they really think they are doing this for God? I used to think that was true, and it is possible some are deceived, but I am beginning to wonder if some of them are just profiting in some way from religion. It is also possible that some are religious, but not really Christian. I think it is a mixed bag.
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