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Post by PG4Him on Dec 29, 2018 10:56:23 GMT -5
I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. (Revelation 2:9)
And to the angel of the church in Pergamos write; These things saith he which hath the sharp sword with two edges; I know thy works, and where thou dwellest, even where Satan's seat is: and thou holdest fast my name, and hast not denied my faith, even in those days wherein Antipas was my faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwelleth. (Revelation 2:12-13)
Satan dwells in the place of his seat. Then he seems to have at least one synagogue in a different city.
Just as the Lord God chose a people and a land for His dwelling on Earth, from which He went forth to spread His kingdom, Satan mirrored this. Every kingdom needs a headquarters. God chose the Hebrews and and put them in the land of Israel. He dwelt in their midst. From Jerusalem, the light shone forth into all the world.
Satan set up his seat of power in Asia Minor, what we call modern Turkey. From there he administers his control of the principalities in this world. Just as God has his chosen race of Jews, Satan has his followers who mimick the Jews. They are at work spreading darkness far and wide.
Facts to consider about this area:
— The people of Anatolia never ruled over the Jews in the OT.
— After founding the church of Ephesus (which he later prophesied would be overrun by wolves) Paul was forbidden to contend for Asia Minor.
— In the middle ages, Turkey was the capital of the Muslim caliphate. It launched several campaigns to invade Europe for the purpose of a holy war.
— Turkey kept control of the Ottoman Empire until it went bust in WW1.
— During WW1, Turkey committed a major genocide effort against Christians in Armenia. It was the opening salvo in the modern persecution of Christians.
— Modern Turkey is ruled by a dictator who openly brags about invading Europe with Muslim operatives.
— Scripture tells us Magog is to the north of Israel, and Turkey is literally to the north of Israel.
I know it’s popular to think that Russia is Magog (mostly built on the flimsy logic that Moscow sounds like Magog) but I don’t believe this is true. Please observe some facts about Russia...
— Never in history has Russia oppressed or invaded Israel.
— Russia fought on the right side of every major global conflict.
— Russia has never declared war on Britain or America.
— Russia is a historically Christian nation which is presently seeing a Christian renaissance. Turkey has never, ever been a Christian nation.
— Russia doesn’t sit to the north of Israel, nor does it really meet any descriptions of Magog. Proponents of this view use a flimsy excuse that the Soviet Union extended into Ukraine which is kinda north of Israel if you skip over Turkey.
— Modern Russia is ruled by (admittedly a dictator) a self-described Christian who visits Christian churches in other nations and wears a cross necklace. He doesn’t brag about resurrecting a holy war among Christian populations.
— Russia is fighting in Syria to stop the onslaught of Muslim revolutionaries.
So let’s recap. Turkey was referenced as the seat of Satan by Jesus Himself, it went on to oversee the caliphate, it warred with Europe over relgiion, it is presently funding a Muslim invasion of Europe, it is hostile to Israel, and it matches the description of Magog.
Russia is none of these things.
The antichrist, meanwhile, is far more likely to put his temple in Turkey than in Rome.
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Post by Cletus on Dec 29, 2018 11:08:27 GMT -5
Did you know Erdogan or how ever you spell his name, the head guy in turkey wants to bring back the caliphate? I have been keeping an eye on the country. interesting things being said in speeches that go right along with bible prophecy. they want to attack israel so bad. so bad. and the head guy wants to make jerusalem the new muslim capital of the world. i saw this in speeches. you wont find these things on your evening news.
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Post by Giller on Jan 1, 2019 12:42:38 GMT -5
Rev 2:12-13 (12) And to the angel of the church in Pergamos write; These things saith he which hath the sharp sword with two edges; (13) I know thy works, and where thou dwellest, even where Satan's seat is: and thou holdest fast my name, and hast not denied my faith, even in those days wherein Antipas was my faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwelleth. No doubt Satan’s seat was in Pergamos, here is info on this: (Jamiesson-Faussett-Brown)
(…Satan’s seat — rather as the Greek is translated all through Revelation, “throne.” Satan, in impious mimicry of God’s heavenly throne, sets up his earthly throne (Rev_4:2). Aesculapius was worshipped there under the serpent form; and Satan, the old serpent, as the instigator (compare Rev_2:10) of fanatical devotees of Aesculapius, and, through them, of the supreme magistracy at Pergamos, persecuted one of the Lord’s people (Antipas) even to death.…)
All the seven churches were in Turkey, but also we have to realize that, at this time Roman Catholicism did not exist. And in the bible there is an Roman aspect to things, European aspect to things, and It also mentions Islamic nations, so there are many aspects that the bible shows. Now I know this may not be the clearest map, but it does show that Russia is northward from Israel, which of course so is Turkey and part of Syria. Here is an interesting scripture: Eze 38:2-6 (2) Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him, (3) And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal: (4) And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords: (5) Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet: (6) Gomer, and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands: and many people with thee. Here is info on this: (Grant Jeffrey)(…The identification of Gog and MagogEzekiel 38:3 describes Gog as the leader of a confederation of northern nations.Described as a very strong leader, he will have the power to commit his allies to war.God will control Gog’s mind and direct him to attack Israel (see Eze 38:11). Gog will come from the land of Magog, a nation composed of three parts: Rosh, Meshech and Tubal, Therefore the identification of the land of Magog is of great interest to prophecy scholars.Studying Genesis 10, scholars note that after the flood, Noah’s descendants dispersed to various parts of Asia. Among them was Magog, a son of Japheth (see Gen 10:1-2).History indicatese that Magog settled in what is now called the Caucasus region between the Black and Caspian seas. The Greeks called Magog’s descendants “Scythians.” While some of these Scythians moved farther north into Europe, others remained in Asia and emigrated as far as the Urals, becoming ancestors of the Tartars, Cossacks, Mongols and others. Thus identifying Magog with this area of Southwest Russia seems feasible….)(Joseph benson)(…Ezekiel 38:2-3Set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog — We find, Gen_10:2, that the second son of Japhet was called Magog, but Ezekiel uses the word here as the name of the country of which Gog was prince: and Michaelis thinks that it denotes those vast regions to the north of India and China, which the Greeks called Scythia, and which we term Tartary. Houbigant also thinks that the prophet here means the Scythians, who are the descendants of Magog, the son of Japhet, and whose neighbours were the people of Rosh, Meshech, and Tubal; that is, the Russians, Muscovites, and Tibareni, or Cappadocians; and thus Theodoret and Josephus understand it. The Turks are generally allowed to be of Scythian origin.…)Russia in its past, may not have been a purposeful persecutor of the Jews, but it is said that people like Stalin killed more people than Hitler. But just because that is so, that does not mean it will not be so in the future, and just look at the alliances it is making, with nations such as Iran, and Syria, and possibly even Turkey, is this just a coincidence? It sure ain’t showing much support for Israel.
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Post by PG4Him on Jan 1, 2019 14:45:35 GMT -5
Hi Gller. Thanks for replying to my thread. Much love to you, brother. I will only add a few more comments here because I’ve never much enjoyed eschatology. I care about this moreso as a matter of intellectual honesty.
Proponents of the Moscow theory use a little fudging of the map to make it look like north tracks that far east. If you go True North as the compass points, you’ll go through Turkey and on to eastern Europe. When this fact is presented to Moscow proponents, they fall back on saying eastern Europe counts as the Soviet Union.
The language and culture we know of as Russia didn’t come out of those Caucus nomadic tribes. That’s like saying Washington DC came out of the Dakota Indians. Once again people are stretching to the fringes of the empire and conflating it with a very different people in Moscow. The land between the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea is culturally closer to Turkey, and the Turkish border actually goes that far.
As far as Russia making diplomatic alliances with key Arab states, even Israel is doing that. Every major government has a diplomatic stake in the Arab region. America does, Britain does, China does, everyone does. Russia isn’t doing anything unique in that, and the fact remains that Russia has never shown resentment toward Israel.
Here are a few other points I would ask you to consider:
— Modern Russia is more friendly toward Christian values than nearly anyone, including America or Israel. Russia discourages homosexuality, promiscuity, substance abuse, and the hip-hop industry. Russia has a state Christian religion. We’ve never had that.
— Russia is against the globalist agenda of the EU.
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Post by Cletus on Jan 1, 2019 15:36:09 GMT -5
Russia also seeks to get away from the American dollar. I heard Putin speak saying its not them trying to move away from the dollar, but the dollar that is moving away from them. many countries are following this trend Venezuela, Philippines, China, and others. They are basing their money on gold and silver. The world is realizing the American dollar is devaluing and they can no longer be profitable in using the dollar to trade. Lots of people are reporting large sums of money missing from their 401. 5 and 6 digits worth. The american dollar is on the decline and the more countries that move away from the dollar the worse it gets because we have been paying with bonds and when other countries sell off those bonds it quickly devalues the dollar. I can not prove this from the bible but common sense tells me that for something like the mark to be implemented the dollar will have to either collapse or come very close. and this is what the world banking system wants. one of their mottos is order out of chaos. they cause chaos to bring about the order they want. slavery to the antichrist, which is their god. the masses will not flock to the mark unless they see it as necessity. this is one of the things the spirit of antichrist is doing in the world now. and America is hopeless to get out of debt... the money is not there. it dont exist. they print money up, there is interest on that money... but there are not enough dollars to cover the interest in existence. the bank only has to have 10% of the money its got out on hand. evey time you swipe your card to buy something the money you used to buy that is not in the bank and it dont exist. this is all apart of the enemies seat on america. debt is bondage. debt brings about a good bit of the chaos we see in the world today. when it all comes tumbling down, there will be a man with all the answers... you just have to take this mark and get into the world system. if not you cant buy sell or trade.
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Post by frienduff on Jan 1, 2019 18:44:12 GMT -5
Russia also seeks to get away from the American dollar. I heard Putin speak saying its not them trying to move away from the dollar, but the dollar that is moving away from them. many countries are following this trend Venezuela, Philippines, China, and others. They are basing their money on gold and silver. The world is realizing the American dollar is devaluing and they can no longer be profitable in using the dollar to trade. Lots of people are reporting large sums of money missing from their 401. 5 and 6 digits worth. The american dollar is on the decline and the more countries that move away from the dollar the worse it gets because we have been paying with bonds and when other countries sell off those bonds it quickly devalues the dollar. I can not prove this from the bible but common sense tells me that for something like the mark to be implemented the dollar will have to either collapse or come very close. and this is what the world banking system wants. one of their mottos is order out of chaos. they cause chaos to bring about the order they want. slavery to the antichrist, which is their god. the masses will not flock to the mark unless they see it as necessity. this is one of the things the spirit of antichrist is doing in the world now. and America is hopeless to get out of debt... the money is not there. it dont exist. they print money up, there is interest on that money... but there are not enough dollars to cover the interest in existence. the bank only has to have 10% of the money its got out on hand. evey time you swipe your card to buy something the money you used to buy that is not in the bank and it dont exist. this is all apart of the enemies seat on america. debt is bondage. debt brings about a good bit of the chaos we see in the world today. when it all comes tumbling down, there will be a man with all the answers... you just have to take this mark and get into the world system. if not you cant buy sell or trade. And they already doing as they always do . If we pay close attention to every pattern in times past , in the bible . What occurs . Evil or etc starts FIRST to not be warned against so much . A false idea or sensual feeling gets introduced . They did this with a false love etc . But I want to show us how things become law . See, when folks get a lil worse and ideals don't seem so evil anymore , Then it becomes a law. We saw this with abortion . We saw this with the gay agenda . FIRST METHOD progogandize , make something seem good , Well they do this with ideas too . And I think we all know where I am headed . THE CHIP . satans love offering . RFID CHIP . Right now its in that phase where its starting to pick up momentum , just barley though . You see, THEY KNOW its far easier to get folks interested in it , THAN TO JUST COME OUT AND FORCE IT . AT FIRST . AT FIRST . So they sell the idea as convience and something that will really help in life and even the worlds ills . THEY always slick to say , OH ITS WONT NEVER BE FORCED . Now if we want to hear other lies about things , why not look at what they first told over seas churches . OH , If gay marriage passes , NO WORRIES you WILL NEVER HAVE TO CONFORM against your beliefs . Right , LIED AGAIN they did . SOld the same thing to amercica , OBAMA did . OH this wont get in the way of religion . RIGHT , tell that to the baker and scores of others now . OKAY, back on the subject of chip. Lets look real close at india . The whole idea of a data base for the good of the poor was sold and began back in two thousand and eight . OH how wonderful this will be for the poor , OH HOW WE LOVE THEM SO . OH so good for the poor. NOW ITS MANDATORY . DO IT OR ELSE . THEY WILL DO THIS WITH THE CHIP . First it will grow slowly just like it does in all examples . Like gay marriage , it was just a state here , then slowly another one Then after some time it was five , then as it kept speeding up it was I think sixteen , THEN IT WAS LAW . FIGURE IT OUT , they Gonna DO THIS WITH THE CHIP . IT IS SATANS LOVE OFFERING , And I pray , oh I pray I DONT even hear one person on this site , start with , OH well it might be okay . PREPARE TO BE REBUKED HARDER than I have ever rebuked before . CAUSE I KNOW WHAT IT IS and I KNOW THE SPIRIT BEHIND IT . ANTI CHRIST . THus let no man or womn on this site , TAKE THAT CHIP . IT WILL BECOME LAW . as soon as enough of the world accepts it , BAM THE IRON CURTAN DROPS ON ALL .
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Post by frienduff on Jan 1, 2019 18:51:26 GMT -5
Folks don't never seem to learn , IDEAS and how to make things become law , AINT NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN . YA first bring it as a good idea , OH how well it would be , then when enough support it , BAM THE IRON CURTAIN DROPS . NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN . NOTHING . THEY will do this with the chip or rfid tattoe . Probably both . YEP , did I say they even have rfid eletromagetic ink , YEP THEY ALREADY DO . and for convienece it can be transparent . AINT THAT something . YEP . I better never hear one word about marking , tattoeing GODS TEMPLE from one single man or woman here . IF you sell out , ITS OVER . DONT be scared . DONT be feared . IF WE DIE , WE DIE , WE THE LORDS . IF we live we live , we the LORDS . BUT take not satans love ring . DONT DO IT . And how evil is this , THEY WANNA PUT It , in what is supposed to BE GODS ONLY . Its like satans last laugh and mock . DONT TAKE THE CHIP. DONT take any tech in or on that temple which is Gods . I got a feeling , CLETUS is dead set against it too. SO is butero . Ummm, sister Candace , you wanna give a big amen , NO CHIP for you . I know watchful is dead set against it too . LETTERS , let me hear you say , NO CHIP FOR YOU . even if it means death .
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Post by PG4Him on Jan 1, 2019 19:47:52 GMT -5
Just for the record, I have no intention to put a chip in my skin. I don’t have any tattoos. I didn’t even pierce my ears. We can debate over details about the MOB, but I’m not scarring my skin either way.
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Post by frienduff on Jan 1, 2019 23:25:16 GMT -5
Just for the record, I have no intention to put a chip in my skin. I don’t have any tattoos. I didn’t even pierce my ears. We can debate over details about the MOB, but I’m not scarring my skin either way.
I don't listen to this fellow . but I did find this video . I want every man , woman and child , if you got cats they can watch it too. The man that sounds like a gangster , listen to what he says . He did an interview years ago on this . Now none of them KNOWS what this is , I DO , but they don't . never the less, LISTEN to his words. Also look at our new commercials and do pay attention to the very last one . WE think this cant happen. It already is and it will become law n time . And I love our sister Candace , cause she done said , NO CHIPS FOR HER .
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Post by John on Jan 2, 2019 8:47:37 GMT -5
Just for the record, I have no intention to put a chip in my skin. I don’t have any tattoos. I didn’t even pierce my ears. We can debate over details about the MOB, but I’m not scarring my skin either way.
I don't listen to this fellow . but I did find this video . I want every man , woman and child , if you got cats they can watch it too. The man that sounds like a gangster , listen to what he says . He did an interview years ago on this . Now none of them KNOWS what this is , I DO , but they don't . never the less, LISTEN to his words. Also look at our new commercials and do pay attention to the very last one . WE think this cant happen. It already is and it will become law n time . And I love our sister Candace , cause she done said , NO CHIPS FOR HER .
We do need to be concerned about the microchip implants, but the video took things President Trump said out of context to build a phony case. He was speaking about the need to have ID to vote, and it was made to appear like he was speaking about needing a chip to purchase food. I don't trust videos when they do that. Everything they say becomes suspect.
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Post by frienduff on Jan 2, 2019 13:15:03 GMT -5
I don't listen to this fellow . but I did find this video . I want every man , woman and child , if you got cats they can watch it too. The man that sounds like a gangster , listen to what he says . He did an interview years ago on this . Now none of them KNOWS what this is , I DO , but they don't . never the less, LISTEN to his words. Also look at our new commercials and do pay attention to the very last one . WE think this cant happen. It already is and it will become law n time . And I love our sister Candace , cause she done said , NO CHIPS FOR HER .
We do need to be concerned about the microchip implants, but the video took things President Trump said out of context to build a phony case. He was speaking about the need to have ID to vote, and it was made to appear like he was speaking about needing a chip to purchase food. I don't trust videos when they do that. Everything they say becomes suspect.
Oh , I know butero. The only reason I sent the video was concerning the chip , the one who put it together was taking some things on what trump was sayin , WAY OUT OF TEXT. But conceringthe chip , That one man is right . And he don't even see it as the mark of the beast . But did you notice what he said , they can turn it off, and bam you cant buy. Even secular folks who know what is going on behind the scenes can see this , ITS just they cant see it for what it is . they see it as only a partial truth , for they know what it will cause and can do , they just cant see it for what it is . And the sad thing is , even that man who is right on about their plan, IF he don't receive Christ , You watch , EVEN HE Will take it in time . Did you watch the very last of it . They KNOW its all tied into buying . THEY KNOW it , and they make folks that do it , seem as great pioneers . THEY SEDUCING folks through tv, media and etc. THEY preparing folks to take this thing . AND IT IS all tied into THE BUYING AND SELLING . Now , let us read revelation as a small child , chapter thirteen again , REAL SLOWLY. And tell me WHAT THIS REALLY IS .
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Post by frienduff on Jan 2, 2019 13:26:13 GMT -5
Butero. their is only one thing he was right about concering trump . TRUMP will have the BIOMETRIC SYSTEM MADE FULL FORCE IN AMERICA. you have to understand that concering the main goal of the un , TRUMP too does its work . You gotta see that by now . The UN , the world govt , does desire a biometric system all over the world . And they got in in places big time already. That Biometric system is biometric rfid . The beasts system IS GETTING set up and so is it one world mindset getting sung . And even trump himself , IS UNDER That sway . FOR NOTHING can stop the rise of the beast and its system of global governance and power . All men who know not Christ in heart , can and are used to build in its kingdom . Its in all sides now butero. Its as hanninah once said , OH the Lord says we will have peace and he broke the wooden yoke off the neck to show this . ONLY thing is , TRUMP wont stop this system . The hannianas of the false prophets have not gotten their hope ONLY A DELUSOIN of destruction unto their own selves . Those men prophesy of unity , all inclusive , and bow at trumps feet AND even though the few true say < NO NO , ye have taught the people rebellion , and here comes the IRON YOKE , most just shun these few away . SO here , let me say it . Oh ye may have broken the wooden yoke , ONLY PREPARE for the IRON YOKE . NOTHING will stop the total rise of mystery babylone and a time of heavy judgment is coming .
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Post by John on Jan 2, 2019 13:42:25 GMT -5
Butero. their is only one thing he was right about concering trump . TRUMP will have the BIOMETRIC SYSTEM MADE FULL FORCE IN AMERICA. you have to understand that concering the main goal of the un , TRUMP too does its work . You gotta see that by now . The UN , the world govt , does desire a biometric system all over the world . And they got in in places big time already. That Biometric system is biometric rfid . The beasts system IS GETTING set up and so is it one world mindset getting sung . And even trump himself , IS UNDER That sway . FOR NOTHING can stop the rise of the beast and its system of global governance and power . All men who know not Christ in heart , can and are used to build in its kingdom . Its in all sides now butero. Its as hanninah once said , OH the Lord says we will have peace and he broke the wooden yoke off the neck to show this . ONLY thing is , TRUMP wont stop this system . The hannianas of the false prophets have not gotten their hope ONLY A DELUSOIN of destruction unto their own selves . Those men prophesy of unity , all inclusive , and bow at trumps feet AND even though the few true say < NO NO , ye have taught the people rebellion , and here comes the IRON YOKE , most just shun these few away . SO here , let me say it . Oh ye may have broken the wooden yoke , ONLY PREPARE for the IRON YOKE . NOTHING will stop the total rise of mystery babylone and a time of heavy judgment is coming . I know what the UN is all about, and Trump may or may not support a biometric chip in credit cards, which is what it sounded like, but I need more to go by than that video.
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Post by frienduff on Jan 2, 2019 13:42:33 GMT -5
And if the watchmen see the sword and yet warns not the people, ...................I think we know what it says . THUS , you wont see me putting hope or healing slightly the people by saying PEACE PEACE , when their is NO PEACE . To every man , woman and child , THE WEAPON will rise under the all inclusive demise . Flee those hanniahs who prophesy trump , peace , oh we shall have peace . NOPE its all delusion . The building of the system has not slowed under trump , HECK HE FEEDS IT and the people CHEER . AND HOW they cheer the biometric system ON , But they know not , nor is it in them to know , THEY CHEERING on the very system that will cause and give all power unto the beast . TALK ABOUT DELUSOIN . I TRIED TO WARN some us . I TRULY DID . The man is fast forwarding the very system which shall enslave the whole world and his evangecilcals who seem to not notice it was the KENNETH COPELANDS and so on who first sold trump to them . THEY seem to just sit and cheer this whole event on . FOR it is not in them TO KNOW its deception . FOR THIER LEADERS showed GOD the back , and their people sat under them, and now PREPARE FOR ONLY MORE deception , of which they cheer it on and have no idea what is really going on . This is not the first time this has occurred . ISRAEL trusted in her lovers too , she ran to eygpt to , ONLY her lovers could not save her , NOW Could they . And the men of many high renown churches have fled to their lovers too and yet get only worse in doctrine and fall and teach this unity . AND , NOTHING can protect them from what is to rise . the very weapon they help build , GONNATURN on and burn THE WHORE TOO . Folks have long sold out . We better FLEE the tabernacles of men , the hopes of anything in this world , including any man . FOR the world repented not but gets worse , the churches repent not but get only worse . FOR ALL THIS THE WEAPON will surely come and the true lambs will be judged as well, first , but the world too and those who are of it , WILL SURELY BE JUDGED . For they whose hearts of the inclusive delusion and help build the weapon , and can see where its leading will surely perish at the HAND of the LORD . For yes the peoples have fallen and yes they have got far worse , BUT O WEAPON ye should not have looked upon my people n the day of their calamity YE should not have decided its time to rid them of the earth . SHALL the ax boast itself . I TROW NOT but this king and these kings WILL boast and their hearts will be lifted up and they will say alas , alas we are gods and have our GOD . BUT IT IS NOT THE HOLY ONE OF ISRAEL they turn too , but rather the adversary the dragaon and the beast who shall rise to all power . WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF TIME WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF TIME and the more I warn , sometimes I think the less folks listen . WE are nearing the end the the final climatic end . BE YE PREPARED IN and BY THE LORD . BE PREPARED to lose all , BE made ready to even die for the LORD , for a great scourge is coming . AND what I warn to one , I do say to all, ITS COMING AND IT WONT BE STOPPED . Fear not death , fear not to suffer let the weak say IN CHRIST I am strong . AND GET the others prepared NOW .
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Post by frienduff on Jan 2, 2019 13:44:05 GMT -5
I know what the UN is all about, and Trump may or may not support a biometric chip in credit cards, which is what it sounded like, but I need more to go by than that video.
BY ALL means , DO JUST THAT . GO and behold the lips of trump . HE DID SAY we will have a great biometric system , on air , land , by sea.THIS IS THAT SYSTEM BUTERO . IT IS .
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