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Post by 4hizglory37 on Dec 30, 2018 21:32:53 GMT -5
I'm finding it quite unbelievable that some people now are believing that they will be able to take the MOB and repent from it? I was absolutely shocked. But these are the times that we are living in...many with itching ears and being taught heresy....
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Post by John on Dec 30, 2018 21:40:54 GMT -5
I'm finding it quite unbelievable that some people now are believing that they will be able to take the MOB and repent from it? I was absolutely shocked. But these are the times that we are living in...many with itching ears and being taught heresy.... A spirit of anti-Christ is infecting our churches! I am not meaning to come across as attacking anyone. I am concerned beyond measure for the soul of anyone that has this mindset. This is not a credit card. This is not a bank account. The book of Revelation was written 2000 years ago, and there was no technology that could bring this to pass until now, yet God warned us. Do not take this mark!
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Post by Abdicate on Dec 31, 2018 23:49:53 GMT -5
I'm finding it quite unbelievable that some people now are believing that they will be able to take the MOB and repent from it? I was absolutely shocked. But these are the times that we are living in...many with itching ears and being taught heresy.... There are people that teach it. This is why I don't believe it's technology alone. No one will mistakenly take it. It will be a conscience effort. Besides, we won't know what it is until the AC comes, and he won't come until we leave, so we'll never know him. Praise the Lord!
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Post by John on Jan 2, 2019 8:59:08 GMT -5
I'm finding it quite unbelievable that some people now are believing that they will be able to take the MOB and repent from it? I was absolutely shocked. But these are the times that we are living in...many with itching ears and being taught heresy.... There are people that teach it. This is why I don't believe it's technology alone. No one will mistakenly take it. It will be a conscience effort. Besides, we won't know what it is until the AC comes, and he won't come until we leave, so we'll never know him. Praise the Lord! I know people must choose to take the mark of the beast, but do you have any scripture that says you can't be tricked into taking it, by deceiving yourself into believing surely this chip isn't it or this tattoo can't be the MOB? I am not aware of any.
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Post by Sister on Jan 2, 2019 10:37:24 GMT -5
I'm finding it quite unbelievable that some people now are believing that they will be able to take the MOB and repent from it? I was absolutely shocked. But these are the times that we are living in...many with itching ears and being taught heresy.... 4hizglory37,
We need to refresh them with this scripture;
Revelation 14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
Revelation 14:10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
Revelation 14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
Revelation 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
Revelation 14:13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.
The warnings are now. If they make the wrong choice it will be too late. The Lord has been warning for over 2000 years.
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Post by Abdicate on Jan 2, 2019 18:05:17 GMT -5
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Post by frienduff on Jan 2, 2019 18:51:37 GMT -5
Sister Candace ran quick . But what she said about choice C , well now Key things we already know . We aint supposed to mark this ol temple which is Gods . See, the anti Christ spirit has been at work . And the beast , well it is the beast that WAS and IS and YET IS NOT . AS I SAID , let no man or woman take that chip or any tattoe like device . We see it arising already . And folks wanna tell them selves fables or any kind of idea that will make it seem okay . IS SIN OKAY . NOPE . I mean am I saved if I walk n willfull sin , just rejoicing in it , even if I am hollering JESUS . NOPE . DO NOT MARK GODS TEMPLE with that wicked thing . The blood of all on this site , my hands are clean , because not only by grace did I point to JESUS ONLY I also told and warned all, DO NOT TAKE THIS CHIP or any rfid tattoe like device on Gods temple , which is our body . Our body IS NOT EVEN OUR OWN ITS GODS . Which by all accounts means , ITS NOT THE BEASTS , its not the systems . ITS GODS and HIS ALONE . DO NOT TAKE THIS WICKED THING in THINE TEMPLE .
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Post by frienduff on Jan 2, 2019 18:55:17 GMT -5
IF we pay attention it even says the beast was even of those other seven kingdoms too. ITS A SPIRIT behind all of this . YEP and it will have kings who rule one hour with it . Abdicate . all I wanna hear is this . I WILL SHUN that CHIP or any like device to the pits of hades from which it sprang . But even if you do take it . Just remember TODAY . cause I warned YA NOT TOO . You will weep on the day of judgment when we all are standing before GOD , saying OH man why did I not heed this , why did I have to think it was what day we worshipped on . ITS a mark my friend , its ON the BODY my friend , and its tied into BUYNG and selling my friend . Do not be of those who weep on the day of judgment , Be one who rejected it and stood firm in CHRIST .
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Post by John on Jan 2, 2019 19:10:47 GMT -5
I know people must choose to take the mark of the beast, but do you have any scripture that says you can't be tricked into taking it, by deceiving yourself into believing surely this chip isn't it or this tattoo can't be the MOB? I am not aware of any.
It's a great question. I think the answer relies on these verses about the AC more than the mark, but one goes hand in hand with the other.
The world will reject the truth and accept the lie that the AC is God and as such will turn to him and accept his conditions - i.e. to take the mark. Once the Holy Spirit is removed along with the faithful, there's nothing holding back the lies of the devil. If someone can call down fire from heaven to destroy his enemies, calling yourself God won't be a hard sell. It's not about the mark of the beast but about the beast. To believe he is God is why those that take the mark of the beast isn't by accident. Putting faith in technology to save or condemn is just not realistic when it's the heart's decision that matters. It's very logical and biblical. The problem is, it's not tradition so this whole idea is rejected. In Islam, to a fallen enemy, there are only three options: convert, pay impossible taxes, or die.
What has to be remembered is that the end times cannot be compared to any time before in history. The spirit realm will mesh with our realm unencumbered. Hence the need for the Holy Spirit to be removed, and the Bride be removed, so the WHOLE earth is judged by fire, one painful day after the other. There's no "Goshen" on earth during the tribulation because it's knock out of its orbit, the daily rotation is cut by a third, and the devil is in full control - except for the Two Witnesses, who in the end succumb to the AC as well. Humanity will be all but wiped out.
The MOB is a spiritual event manifested in the physical submission to the AC as God. There can be no mistake. They will all be tricked by his deception. It's Ba'al worship 2.0, just like in the beginning. What to know what's going to happen in order, read the beginning: Isaiah 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times [the things] that are not [yet] done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure: Read Genesis chapter 10 back to chapter 1 and see the themes of the chapters. Those scriptures you gave me would cause me to think that you can take the mark of the beast without realizing what it is. It says they will receive a strong delusion to believe a lie. That strong delusion could be that technology can't hurt them, and there is no harm taking a chip in your right hand or forehead. I don't see anything in scripture that would give me any assurance anyone can take any chip or place any tattoo in either of those areas and be okay. As a matter of fact, I wouldn't take any chip or tattoo anywhere on my body, as Leviticus says not to print marks on our body and those microchips have been shown to cause cancer in animals. I know someone that put one of those tracking chips in their dog, and it got cancer and died at age 8. I have always thought that had something to do with it. I have no assurance from scripture that any such thing could not be the mark of the beast.
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Post by Abdicate on Jan 2, 2019 21:47:00 GMT -5
Those scriptures you gave me would cause me to think that you can take the mark of the beast without realizing what it is. It says they will receive a strong delusion to believe a lie. That strong delusion could be that technology can't hurt them, and there is no harm taking a chip in your right hand or forehead. I don't see anything in scripture that would give me any assurance anyone can take any chip or place any tattoo in either of those areas and be okay. As a matter of fact, I wouldn't take any chip or tattoo anywhere on my body, as Leviticus says not to print marks on our body and those microchips have been shown to cause cancer in animals. I know someone that put one of those tracking chips in their dog, and it got cancer and died at age 8. I have always thought that had something to do with it. I have no assurance from scripture that any such thing could not be the mark of the beast.
You keep suggesting that I am saying it's ok to take the MOB (which we CANNOT identify today) and that is the opposite of what I am saying.
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Post by John on Jan 2, 2019 22:33:49 GMT -5
Those scriptures you gave me would cause me to think that you can take the mark of the beast without realizing what it is. It says they will receive a strong delusion to believe a lie. That strong delusion could be that technology can't hurt them, and there is no harm taking a chip in your right hand or forehead. I don't see anything in scripture that would give me any assurance anyone can take any chip or place any tattoo in either of those areas and be okay. As a matter of fact, I wouldn't take any chip or tattoo anywhere on my body, as Leviticus says not to print marks on our body and those microchips have been shown to cause cancer in animals. I know someone that put one of those tracking chips in their dog, and it got cancer and died at age 8. I have always thought that had something to do with it. I have no assurance from scripture that any such thing could not be the mark of the beast.
You keep suggesting that I am saying it's ok to take the MOB (which we CANNOT identify today) and that is the opposite of what I am saying.
Last Daze at WCF is saying that, you are not. I am not suggesting that is what you are saying. You are saying we don't know what the mark of the beast is, and that since we don't know, we shouldn't fear technology, so if they come along and want to place a chip in your hand or forehead, that is not necessarily the mark of the beast. My concern is that it very well could be, so why take chances?
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Post by justinadams on Jan 3, 2019 7:21:08 GMT -5
You keep suggesting that I am saying it's ok to take the MOB (which we CANNOT identify today) and that is the opposite of what I am saying.
Last Daze at WCF is saying that, you are not. I am not suggesting that is what you are saying. You are saying we don't know what the mark of the beast is, and that since we don't know, we shouldn't fear technology, so if they come along and want to place a chip in your hand or forehead, that is not necessarily the mark of the beast. My concern is that it very well could be, so why take chances?
No one knows this for sure. It is all mostly conjecture. Most of our secret service people have a tooth cap with a locator. This has been the case for years. Many EU kids are chipped in various places for 'their safety'. All you need is a scanner and a small EMP device to render them useless. So long as your DNA is not meddled with you do not have any major issue. However, having suffered from PTSD I do note that there are 'therapies' that can meddle with cellular structure of remembered traumas. With the corrected applications of something akin to shock therapy, the DNA of your remembered cell structures may be altered. Because this is a cellular alteration it DOES affect the DNA's transmittal of information on a very grass-roots cell level. As Abby will concur, this has been going on for years and years and years. It is NOT new.
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Post by John on Jan 3, 2019 8:10:00 GMT -5
Last Daze at WCF is saying that, you are not. I am not suggesting that is what you are saying. You are saying we don't know what the mark of the beast is, and that since we don't know, we shouldn't fear technology, so if they come along and want to place a chip in your hand or forehead, that is not necessarily the mark of the beast. My concern is that it very well could be, so why take chances?
No one knows this for sure. It is all mostly conjecture. Most of our secret service people have a tooth cap with a locator. This has been the case for years. Many EU kids are chipped in various places for 'their safety'. All you need is a scanner and a small EMP device to render them useless. So long as your DNA is not meddled with you do not have any major issue. However, having suffered from PTSD I do note that there are 'therapies' that can meddle with cellular structure of remembered traumas. With the corrected applications of something akin to shock therapy, the DNA of your remembered cell structures may be altered. Because this is a cellular alteration it DOES affect the DNA's transmittal of information on a very grass-roots cell level. As Abby will concur, this has been going on for years and years and years. It is NOT new. I am not saying that anyone knows this for sure. I am saying that it is too much like what the Bible describes as the mark of the beast, and it is not worth taking chances. There is a possibility this is just a test of the technology that will be used for the beast system, but again, those chips have been shown to cause cancer in animals, so for that reason alone, it is foolish to get them. The other issue is, "not for sure" is not good enough when we are talking about someone's soul. I am saying that for myself, I refuse to get any kind of chip or tattoo. I am advising others not to get any chip or tattoo. Still, each person has to make their own choice. I can't make it for them.
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Post by frienduff on Jan 3, 2019 11:24:30 GMT -5
No one knows this for sure. It is all mostly conjecture. Most of our secret service people have a tooth cap with a locator. This has been the case for years. Many EU kids are chipped in various places for 'their safety'. All you need is a scanner and a small EMP device to render them useless. So long as your DNA is not meddled with you do not have any major issue. However, having suffered from PTSD I do note that there are 'therapies' that can meddle with cellular structure of remembered traumas. With the corrected applications of something akin to shock therapy, the DNA of your remembered cell structures may be altered. Because this is a cellular alteration it DOES affect the DNA's transmittal of information on a very grass-roots cell level. As Abby will concur, this has been going on for years and years and years. It is NOT new. I am not saying that anyone knows this for sure. I am saying that it is too much like what the Bible describes as the mark of the beast, and it is not worth taking chances. There is a possibility this is just a test of the technology that will be used for the beast system, but again, those chips have been shown to cause cancer in animals, so for that reason alone, it is foolish to get them. The other issue is, "not for sure" is not good enough when we are talking about someone's soul. I am saying that for myself, I refuse to get any kind of chip or tattoo. I am advising others not to get any chip or tattoo. Still, each person has to make their own choice. I can't make it for them.
The thing some are overlooking in this . Their is no more sacrifice for sins for those who sin willfully . Well it states quite clearly we are not to mark Our body . And I know most will say , But hey we aint under the law , We don't willfully transgress either . ALWAYS remember our body , folks it aint even our own . Thus we got NO RIGHT to offer it with cuttings of the flesh by chip or tattoo UNTO the beast system which hates GOD. Who we think is behind this , SAINTS , NOPE its wicked men in high places who do the work of satan . The bible was clear for a reason so as we would for sure not take this thing . And it clearly says cannot buy or sell. WELL RFID IS TIED INTO BUYING and SELLING . How hard is this to see, that in time they will use this as a means of determining who is loyal and who is not . WHY do we think satan has , under the guise of men , pulled so many churches OUT of focusing on end time events . HOW many churches in mainstream , really even focus at all on revelations anymore . And not rather on this big unity thing . Folks we need to see clearly . And one more thing that most may not yet see. Go read about this beast . NOTICE he is of the seven . HE HAS BEEN IN ALL THE KINGDOMS yet at the end , A MARK appears . See Even this , the eighth , HE is of the seven . HE has been in all wicked kingdoms . And only near the end does it talk about a mark which no man can buy or sell. CHECK out these words about the beast . THE beast that WAS , IS and YET IS NOT . FIGURE THAT OUT . PAUL says the mystery of inquity was already at work . IT has been . IN and near the end ten kings shall also arise and rule one hour with the beast . THE bible is clear , not to cut the flesh , not to mark the temple . WHY on earth would any one mark , cut Gods temple for these dead and twice dead men . WE must not . Do not take that chip or any tattoe in our body , WHICH is clearly said , OUR body is not even our own . WHY do we think satan wants the chip in our body , SO HE can say alas they are mine , they are mind , ITS LIKE A GAINT MOCK TO GOD . What a MOCK TO GOD , not only does satan want hearts minds and souls , HE wants our body , WHICH IS TO BE GODS ALONE . DO NOT TAKE THIS NASTY EVIL WICKED BEAST SYSTEM chip .
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Post by John on Jan 4, 2019 11:25:31 GMT -5
Here are things to consider. If we are still here, and the day comes where the government says money is no longer going to be used after a finite date that they set, and you must have a computer chip in your hand or forehead to purchase food, would you refuse? If you have a child, and the authorities scare you with stories of an increase in abductions, would you let them be chipped so you would know where they are at all times? When all of your competition for a job has a chip in their head that makes them 10 times smarter than the average person, and you can't compete, would you take a chip? When it comes to the place where this is more than just a story, but we are faced with serious decisions, some of them life or death, are we strong enough to still refuse that microchip implant? Prepare your heart now, because it is on it's way. It is just a matter of when.
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