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Post by frienduff on Jan 10, 2019 10:35:33 GMT -5
I did warn it was long, lol. I put myself in high gear to read it as quickly as I could, and I believe the writer was in high gear typing all that out as quickly as he could. One point I'm considering is that this will be a time when beast will be killing those who do not worship the image....it won't be a time of lawfulness, but a time of lawlessness. If the mark of the beast is only technology, in the taking of a chip in the skin, then dissenters can be rounded up and given a chip against their will, by force, easily. Or people can be taken advantage of when they are not in any shape to flee or fight back...patients in hospitals, the mentally ill or elderly, unconscious, etc. God would not condemn anyone for having a chip that they didn't want. So it makes sense that there must be more to the mark than technology alone. There must still be more to be revealed about what it all involves, so I believe we need to keep watching and having our minds open to what the Lord will show. That is the main point I wanted to make with this, and also wondered if anyone might receive any further insights. Thanks for reading the post. They wont chip us against our will. Because in their minds they know we would only pluck it out . THEY know those who refuse it , WILL NOT TAKE IT and thus they will be seen only as enemies . Ponder that . A common thought to man is just that . Well if we forced it , As soon as they left , they would just pluck it out and we would be hunting them all over again . The chip is part of putting us into the system . Has anyone else seen, that the longer this goes on , THE MORE pastors and all are trying to do their very best to reason out in a part of their mind why this tech just cant be the mark of the beast . THEY trying to convince themselves in whatever way they can , When push comes to shove IT will be okay to take it . WHY . FEAR . Fear is the cause . YET no matter what folks believe about that chip . WE NEED to understand , Our body is Gods , And they want to place it in THAT . This is sin , ,no matter how one sees it . but more and more will begin trying so hard to find a way , because THEY FEAR . They fear to lose their life , they fear to be cast out . BUT NOT US SISTER . We were born to be hated by the world and loved only BY GOD and those who love Him. We about to find out what this right here means,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i was born for adversity , I sit alone on a roof top , cause thou has chastened me . AND God allows chastisement , FOR OUR GOOD . NO chips or tattoes in the temple of God .
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2019 14:46:28 GMT -5
If it's a chip that takes control of a person's brain they won't want to take it out and will be locked irrevocably into the system...do you see what I mean brother....it doesn't make sense that God would forever damn a person for something that can so easily be imposed against their will. All I'm saying is that I think we need to continue seeking the Lord about this and stay alert for more understanding to come. Let's keep our ears to the doorpost.
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Post by frienduff on Jan 10, 2019 14:54:23 GMT -5
If it's a chip that takes control of a person's brain they won't want to take it out and will be locked irrevocably into the system...do you see what I mean brother....it doesn't make sense that God would forever damn a person for something that can so easily be imposed against their will. All I'm saying is that I think we need to continue seeking the Lord about this and stay alert for more understanding to come. Let's keep our ears to the doorpost. I honestly don't think it will take control of their brain . Folks already in love with the dragon of this world . How many Christians even worship satan . Many do . and by christain I don't mean real ones I mean those who love their sin and have changed the image of JESUS into well, lets be real , the image of satan . ITS satan who deceives , allures and feeds the lusts of man heart . SO they wont have to put this in no chip , ITS already In many hearts and minds . In fact the other religions , the false faiths of christanity wicans , atheist , they already under witchcraft and scorcery of satan . They don't realize this , BUT THEY ARE . NOW the big push is to get the world to be as ONE mind , one heart , and to come against the LAMB and lambs . Let no man or any one willfully sin . that chip is WILLFULL SIN . We need to all at least KNOW THAT . OH and it is connected right to the beast system. And they want it where , IN THE BODY . Revelations is a clear as it needs to be . NO lamb , no lover of Christ , would dare take that wicked thing .
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Post by John on Jan 10, 2019 16:32:17 GMT -5
If it's a chip that takes control of a person's brain they won't want to take it out and will be locked irrevocably into the system...do you see what I mean brother....it doesn't make sense that God would forever damn a person for something that can so easily be imposed against their will. All I'm saying is that I think we need to continue seeking the Lord about this and stay alert for more understanding to come. Let's keep our ears to the doorpost. In theory, it could be forced on someone, but it won't be. God won't allow it! They will have to agree to take it.
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Post by John on Jan 10, 2019 16:40:50 GMT -5
If it's a chip that takes control of a person's brain they won't want to take it out and will be locked irrevocably into the system...do you see what I mean brother....it doesn't make sense that God would forever damn a person for something that can so easily be imposed against their will. All I'm saying is that I think we need to continue seeking the Lord about this and stay alert for more understanding to come. Let's keep our ears to the doorpost. I honestly don't think it will take control of their brain . Folks already in love with the dragon of this world . How many Christians even worship satan . Many do . and by christain I don't mean real ones I mean those who love their sin and have changed the image of JESUS into well, lets be real , the image of satan . ITS satan who deceives , allures and feeds the lusts of man heart . SO they wont have to put this in no chip , ITS already In many hearts and minds . In fact the other religions , the false faiths of christanity wicans , atheist , they already under witchcraft and scorcery of satan . They don't realize this , BUT THEY ARE . NOW the big push is to get the world to be as ONE mind , one heart , and to come against the LAMB and lambs . Let no man or any one willfully sin . that chip is WILLFULL SIN . We need to all at least KNOW THAT . OH and it is connected right to the beast system. And they want it where , IN THE BODY . Revelations is a clear as it needs to be . NO lamb , no lover of Christ , would dare take that wicked thing .
There are two false teachers at WCF that go by Diaste and Last Daze, who are claiming the mark of the beast will be forced on people, and they will still be able to be saved, and there is no scripture that says that. In theory, they could hold you down and force anything on you, but God won't allow it! These people are deceivers, and if possible, they will trick the elect.
Think about this. Why are they working so hard to convince people it is safe to take these chips? It is the spirit of anti-Christ at work.
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Post by frienduff on Jan 10, 2019 17:02:09 GMT -5
I honestly don't think it will take control of their brain . Folks already in love with the dragon of this world . How many Christians even worship satan . Many do . and by christain I don't mean real ones I mean those who love their sin and have changed the image of JESUS into well, lets be real , the image of satan . ITS satan who deceives , allures and feeds the lusts of man heart . SO they wont have to put this in no chip , ITS already In many hearts and minds . In fact the other religions , the false faiths of christanity wicans , atheist , they already under witchcraft and scorcery of satan . They don't realize this , BUT THEY ARE . NOW the big push is to get the world to be as ONE mind , one heart , and to come against the LAMB and lambs . Let no man or any one willfully sin . that chip is WILLFULL SIN . We need to all at least KNOW THAT . OH and it is connected right to the beast system. And they want it where , IN THE BODY . Revelations is a clear as it needs to be . NO lamb , no lover of Christ , would dare take that wicked thing .
There are two false teachers at WCF that go by Diaste and Last Daze, who are claiming the mark of the beast will be forced on people, and they will still be able to be saved, and there is no scripture that says that. In theory, they could hold you down and force anything on you, but God won't allow it! These people are deceivers, and if possible, they will trick the elect.
Think about this. Why are they working so hard to convince people it is safe to take these chips? It is the spirit of anti-Christ at work.
Exactly butero . it is the Spirit of anti Christ making ready hearts and minds for unity and rfid chips . YOU SPOT ON RIGHT man . Watchful, butero Is right. We will see an incease of messages like these from men gone wrong PICK UP AND INCREASE . Yall, we are RUNNING out of time . And I don't say this to cause fear , I say it to just exhort us . We must be willing to lose all and die for Christ . And we must start praying more and more , so as none be led into temptation . also , pray more for God to examine us , and correct anything that might not be pleasing to HIM . WE NEED to be edified and built up and fast too . For any who might be struggling in any type of error or mindset , GET right in the LORD , flee any error and let us be built up and ready to lose all . The truth is , WE SHOULD KNOW WE GOT ALL HOPE . we should be matured up and just rejoicing in the LORD , no matter what we see building to come against us WE should be at the point of , SO be it , YOUR WILL BE DONE LORD , just let us be faithful even unto death . WE SHOULD BE HAVING ALL HOPE in HIM . So we must begin to really build up the body and the number one way to do that , FOCUS ON JESUS , FOCUS ON SOUND DOCTRINE . FOR THE SPIRIT will make all ready . Armour up and have no fear . And be on guard for who you keep company with . Correct , and keep focusing on Sound bible doctrine . THIS DELUSION is about to FULL FORCE RUSH all out and will take all captive who are not In the lambs book of life to believe a lie .
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Post by frienduff on Jan 10, 2019 17:08:27 GMT -5
If it's a chip that takes control of a person's brain they won't want to take it out and will be locked irrevocably into the system...do you see what I mean brother....it doesn't make sense that God would forever damn a person for something that can so easily be imposed against their will. All I'm saying is that I think we need to continue seeking the Lord about this and stay alert for more understanding to come. Let's keep our ears to the doorpost. In theory, it could be forced on someone, but it won't be. God won't allow it! They will have to agree to take it.
Step one , make the minds ready for it . start slowly bringing it in and have it propagandized on the news . let people start seeing how good it is and can be . THEY DONG THIS NOW . Step one , also includes making churches ready for it . the churches will begin in phase two to not only say things like the chip is okay , or other things they have been doing . Step two will be getting it into and using the churches as a means to help usher it in . WATCH and see . Also in step two we will see them as more are getting it , also start showing it not jus as conveience but real heavy showing it will and can cure the ills of the world , make it seem more as necessity . in step two towards its latter end we will see , ideals increasing like , ONLY dangerous ones would not want it , only terroists and radicals have something to hide . THEN KADOW THE IRON CURTAIN FALLS . STEP three rid the dangerous ones , round them up etc . That is it in a nutshell. WE BETTER be on guard cause its about to go highly deceptive round the world . real serious deceptions will only abound from here on out .
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Post by frienduff on Jan 10, 2019 17:15:27 GMT -5
A good reminder just came to me . THOSE WHO TRULY LOVE CHRIST and one another , wont be silent in these days , WE GONNA WARN , EXHORT , POINT ONLY TO CHRIST and warn against this wickedness . The lambs don't run from the fight , WE GOT JESUS , we charge full force into the trenches and we blow them trumpets .
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Post by Abby-Joy on Jan 10, 2019 19:23:44 GMT -5
As technology is advancing in a very rapid pace - and God knows what they do not show to the public - they could try to do a division of mankind.
Those who would receive the mark may gain superhuman abilities instantly.
Imagine, for example, never having to study but you could instantly know all human knowledge available.
Those are the kind of things that will seduce many people on Earth.
And those who refuse to receive it will just become obsolete and destroyed by natural selection in their minds.
Or they could use those inferior people to be their slaves in some way. We see glimmers of this already in our society. White-collar professionals are using Ritalin and psychotropic drugs to perform better at work. Kids as young as 10 and 12 are in professional-grade training programs for a career path. If you don’t have Nike sponsoring your athletic development by age 15, you won’t play in college. Things are so competitive, pretty much in every industry, that people are going to extreme measures. We are rapidly reaching the point that you can’t get ahead if you’re not willing to do dangerous things to your body. As people compete for the few remaining jobs after AI automation, only the ’superstar’ humans will have a chance. We have to remember that when we talk about buying and selling in the future, it won’t be going to your local market to show your hand to a clerk. You will simply think of a product you want, and the transaction will be digitally automated. This is not speculation. Computer programmers are telling us this is the goal, and they’re not too far from pulling it off. The antichrist won’t block you from working as a bank teller because there will be no bank tellers. No jobs, no currency, no access to the corporate food chain unless you’re in the party. Yes, this is exactly what I believe it will be like. One's allegiance to the beast will give them merit to "buy and sell." From what I remember, they do already have this technology of being able to communicate brain-to-computer, computer-to-brain, and brain-to-brain. I believe this is (some of) what they were using me for since I was small... at least from around age 8 to 10. They could communicate with me/brain via their computers/system. This was in the early 1980's, before anyone knew about an internet. I know that's a bold statement to make, but it's my experience.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2019 9:41:47 GMT -5
Something to realize is that mind control happens even without technology....oh my goodness yes it does, often. Some are more prone to being the controlled and others the controllers. If you've ever had your brain freeze and unable to think freely during conversation with someone else it's very possibly due to mind control...it's an evil spirit, a form of witchcraft when the person is exerting their will upon you trying to force a point of view on you. I grew up under this form of mind control, and the Lord has been slowly teaching me and helping me to get free. I have actually by grace felt/seen it like a snake coiling around and inside my head and squeezing...prevents your mind from working. It's abusive. You get drawn in slowly and with kindness at first to disarm you, and then they slowly lower the boom and tighten the noose trying to force their will and essentially brainwashing (controlling) your thinking....happens all the time in churches from the pulpits. They can even be speaking truth but don't allow any room for the other person to freely receive or reject according to their own free will, nor any room/space/time for the Holy Spirit to work. It's actually a form of taking the place of God in your life. They don't need microchips to make this happen...it's spiritual warfare we are up against first and foremost. The spiritual level is the level above all where we need to overcome the beast and his mark....it's in the book of Revelation as something we need to OVERCOME.
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Post by John on Jan 11, 2019 10:18:42 GMT -5
Something to realize is that mind control happens even without technology....oh my goodness yes it does, often. Some are more prone to being the controlled and others the controllers. If you've ever had your brain freeze and unable to think freely during conversation with someone else it's very possibly due to mind control...it's an evil spirit, a form of witchcraft when the person is exerting their will upon you trying to force a point of view on you. I grew up under this form of mind control, and the Lord has been slowly teaching me and helping me to get free. I have actually by grace felt/seen it like a snake coiling around and inside my head and squeezing...prevents your mind from working. It's abusive. You get drawn in slowly and with kindness at first to disarm you, and then they slowly lower the boom and tighten the noose trying to force their will and essentially brainwashing (controlling) your thinking....happens all the time in churches from the pulpits. They can even be speaking truth but don't allow any room for the other person to freely receive or reject according to their own free will, nor any room/space/time for the Holy Spirit to work. It's actually a form of taking the place of God in your life. They don't need microchips to make this happen...it's spiritual warfare we are up against first and foremost. The spiritual level is the level above all where we need to overcome the beast and his mark....it's in the book of Revelation as something we need to OVERCOME. There is no question there are tactics people use to influence. Some call it putting a bug in your ear. People can play on your emotions by getting emotional, saying your words hurt their feelings, perhaps crying crocodile tears, trying to make you feel guilty, etc. People do that all the time, but I can see right through them, having been around people like that all my life. When it comes to right and wrong, I go only by what the Bible says. No emotional appeal can change scripture in my KJV Bible. You can have all the nice stories about how wonderful Muslims are, or what great parents the homosexual couple is down the road, and I won't be moved. I know right and wrong from the Bible, and it is black and white to me. Even if I can be made to feel bad, I will still reject feelings for truth. That is what we all must do.
As far as the mark of the beast goes, we can't be sure that taking a chip that will be scanned to buy or sell will allow the anti-Christ to take over our mind, but we can be sure from the Bible that the mark of the beast will be something in our right hand or forehead that we must have to buy or sell, therefore, anything that works that way is either the mark of the beast, or a test run for the mark of the beast. Those who keep saying that we have nothing to fear with this technology are lying to us. Again, it is not the technology itself that is the problem. It is the fact that the Bible states that the mark of the beast will work this way, and if you take that mark, you are doomed. Also, why are there all of these people coming out of the wood work all of a sudden trying to take away our fear of the computer chips? They must have a motive! Either they want the chip themselves, and don't want to do it alone, they are not real Christians, but are in league with the beast, or they want to advance the technology because it appeals to their flesh. None of those are good reasons.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2019 11:54:55 GMT -5
Brother, I wasn't addressing the physical mark of the beast.......just talking about overcoming the beast and his mark on a spiritual level.....then the outward physical things won't be a problem for us, because we will have already overcome it. Then we will just continue on being led of the Spirit regardless of any outward circumstances trying to turn us aside......we wont be overcome or turned aside and tempted by whatever outward things are going on. That is the most important way in how we need to prepare, on the spiritual level, each of us in our own individual lives...overcoming the antichrist spirit in our own soul first, whatever angle each one needs to deal with personally through healing, deliverance, repentance etc.....since we are wrestling not with flesh and blood but with powers and principalities in high places. JESUS is still the way and the truth and the life and we need to not get our eyes off Him onto earthly things.
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Post by Giller on Jan 11, 2019 12:41:41 GMT -5
Rev 13:16-17 (16) And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: (17) And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
People may in some form willfully receive the mark, yet it does say that people will be caused to receive the mark, so their will be some type of prompting.
And here is something interesting to think about:
Rev 13:15-16 (15) And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. (16) And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
We know that the "he" in verse 15 is referring to the False prophet, but is the "he" in verse 16 also referring to the False prophet or the Antichrist?
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Post by John on Jan 11, 2019 12:54:31 GMT -5
Rev 13:16-17 (16) And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: (17) And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. People may in some form willfully receive the mark, yet it does say that people will be caused to receive the mark, so their will be some type of prompting. And here is something interesting to think about: Rev 13:15-16 (15) And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. (16) And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: We know that the " he" in verse 15 is referring to the False prophet, but is the " he" in verse 16 also referring to the False prophet or the Antichrist? I believe he causeth them to take the mark in the same way the IRS causeth people to pay taxes. There are consequences for not obeying the law, and if they say you must take the mark or face the prospect of not being able to purchase food, or even faced with being executed, that is causing them to take the mark, but not by holding them down and printing it on their hand or injecting a chip by force. It is by coercion.
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Post by Giller on Jan 11, 2019 12:58:23 GMT -5
Rev 13:16-17 (16) And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: (17) And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. People may in some form willfully receive the mark, yet it does say that people will be caused to receive the mark, so their will be some type of prompting. And here is something interesting to think about: Rev 13:15-16 (15) And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. (16) And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: We know that the " he" in verse 15 is referring to the False prophet, but is the " he" in verse 16 also referring to the False prophet or the Antichrist? I believe he causeth them to take the mark in the same way the IRS causeth people to pay taxes. There are consequences for not obeying the law, and if they say you must take the mark or face the prospect of not being able to purchase food, or even faced with being executed, that is causing them to take the mark, but not by holding them down and printing it on their hand or injecting a chip by force. It is by coercion.
Very well said.
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