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Post by Sister on Jun 11, 2018 21:32:14 GMT -5
Who is Mark?
I'm like a detective, I can't help it! I always have to check things out to see who was at the scene, when, how, why, and if their stories collaborate.
After studying the scriptures for 35 odd years, (which doesn't make me an expert by the way) I suddenly had a question, who's Mark? It's funny really when you think about it, because I never noticed it, and his name is not listed as one of the 12 apostles, so where did this fellow come from?
He was not listed as an apostle.....
According to Book of Matthew;
1. SIMON (CALLED PETER) 2. ANDREW (PETERS BROTHER) 3. JAMES (SON OF ZEBEDEE) 4. JOHN (JAMES BROTHER) 5. PHILIP 6. BARTHOLOMEW 7. THOMAS 8. MATTHEW (THE PUBLICAN) 9. JAMES ((SON OF ALPHAEUS) 10. LEBBAEUS (SURNAME THADDAEUS) 11. SIMON (THE CANAANITE) 12. JUDAS (SURNAMED ISCARIOT)
Matthew 10:2 Now the names of the twelve apostles are these; The first, Simon, who is called Peter, and Andrew his brother; James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother;
Matthew 10:3 Philip, and Bartholomew; Thomas, and Matthew the publican; James the son of Alphaeus, and Lebbaeus, whose surname was Thaddaeus;
Matthew 10:4 Simon the Canaanite, and Judas Iscariot, who also betrayed him.
(The Book of Mark lists the same names exactly as Matthew)
According to Book of Luke
1. SIMON (NAMED PETER) 2. ANDREW (HIS BROTHER) 3. JAMES 4. JOHN 5. PHILIP 6. BARTHOLOMEW 7. MATTHEW 8. THOMAS 9. JAMES (SON OF ALPHAEUS) 10. SIMON (CALLED ZELOTES) 11. JUDAS (BROTHER OF JAMES) 12. JUDAS ISCARIOT
Luke 6:14 Simon, (whom he also named Peter,) and Andrew his brother, James and John, Philip and Bartholomew,
Luke 6:15 Matthew and Thomas, James the son of Alphaeus, and Simon called Zelotes,
Luke 6:16 And Judas the brother of James, and Judas Iscariot, which also was the traitor.
When I checked out this matter I noticed other things that blew me away! I did do a post about it on the other forum a while back so don't peek. But for now when you look up who Mark is you will find the answer. Praise the Lord Almighty and how he lays out his Word. He does this for a reason and I love how he works. The names change on that apostle listing, but for now where is the Apostle Mark hiding?
You will find.
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Post by Cletus on Jun 12, 2018 1:59:36 GMT -5
this is what i can find but maybe not the same guy, more on that later... Act 12:12 And when he had considered the thing, he came to the house of Mary the mother of John, whose surname was Mark; where many were gathered together praying. Col 4:10 Aristarchus my fellowprisoner saluteth you, and Marcus, sister's son to Barnabas, (touching whom ye received commandments: if he come unto you, receive him;) several of places in acts call him "John, also called Mark". I think His name was probably John Mark. see acts 15:37 for a goodin.
Just wondering Sister, what you know that i dont. Its hard for me to follow names without a face to put with it. And I am fascinated by nothing more than I am with pearls in Gods written Word.
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Post by John on Jun 12, 2018 6:57:50 GMT -5
I never gave the matter of who Mark is much thought. Yes, there is a John Mark in the book of Acts. It was that John Mark that led to contention between Paul and Barnabus.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2018 8:38:07 GMT -5
I believe it's good and necessary to ask the common sense questions if we want to grow and learn. If we ask we will receive. And the bible says we have not because we ask not. Part of the battle is even getting to a place of realizing what is the right question to ask of the Lord in a given situation. Truth can always stand up to the light of scrutiny....it's only falsehood that needs to fear it. We just need to make sure we are being guided by the Lord and led by Him in everything. Well Sister, I look forward to learning what He has shown you about Mark.
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Post by tlsitd on Jun 12, 2018 13:22:09 GMT -5
My understanding is that "Mark" is the same John-Mark mentioned in the book of Acts. He was an acquaintance or companion of the apostle Peter and probably of the other original apostles, possibly also a mentee of Peter's. Peter refers to Mark (or "Marcus") as his "son" in 1st Peter 5:13, just as Paul referred to Timothy (see the beginning of 1 & 2nd Timothy), which suggests a special relationship between Peter and Mark, like the relationship Paul had with Timothy.
The gospel of Mark was probably written from Peter's perspective, as dictated to John-Mark. Peter was not a learned man (Acts 4:13) and was probably illiterate and had other people write his letters for him. (1 Peter was written by a brother named Sylvanus at Peter's dictation. See 1 Peter 5:12)
(Luke was not an apostle either but a companion of Paul's, a doctor by occupation. He wrote the gospel of Luke, the book of Acts, and possibly Hebrews at Paul's dictation--because of Paul's poor eyesight due to the demon ("thorn in the flesh") God had given Paul to keep him humble.)
Mark's gospel was probably written from Peter's perspective; Matthew was from Matthew's, John from John's, and Luke's was a collection of multiple eyewitness accounts, written for a person of importance by the name of Theophilus (see Luke 1:1-4 & Acts 1:1).
Mark may have been among the disciples during Jesus' ministry, following along with them, though not necessarily a disciple himself. (He may have been that young man who fled away naked at Jesus' arrest, mentioned in Mark 14:51,52.)
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Post by Sister on Jun 12, 2018 23:10:41 GMT -5
Thank you everyone for looking into it. I had to go back to my old post to see how I came to my conclusion to refresh my memory, so I have copied and pasted some parts of what I already explained word for word.
This is how I came to my conclusion, which I think now is necessary to explain how I reached my answer.
According to book of Matthew According to Book of Luke
1. Simon (called Peter) 1. Simon (also named Peter) 2. Andrew (his brother) 2. Andrew (his brother) 3. James (son of Zebedee) 3. James 4. John (his brother) 4. John 5. Philip 5. Philip 6. Bartholomew 6. Bartholomew 7. Thomas 7. Matthew 8. Matthew (the publican) 8. Thomas 9. James (son of Alphaeus) 9. James (son of Alphaeus) 10. Lebbaeus (surname Thaddaeus) 10. Simon (called Zelotes) 11. Simon (the canaanite) 11. Judas (brother of James) 12. Judas Iscariot (who betrayed him) 12. Judas Iscariot (the traitor)
I first noticed that there were two sets of brothers. Simon (Called Peter) & Andrew are the first set, James and John are the second set, and then as I carried on with my investigation down further, I found a third set of brothers amongst this list.
I noticed also that instead of Lebbaeus (surname Thaddaeus), as listed in Matthew & Mark, we have Judas (brother of James) listed in Luke. It's the same guy, but with a different name,..... but which James is he the brother of? It can only be James (son of Alphaeus), because the other James is the brother of John who wrote Revelation. James and John are the sons of Zebedee, whilst Judas (also called Lebbaeus) and James are both the sons of Alphaeus.
So out of the 12 apostles there are three sets of brothers. Very interesting!
Simon (Peter) & Andrew James & John Lebbaeus (surname Thaddaeus) /Judas and James (son of Alphaeus)
Judas mentioned as the brother of James to confirm again it's this same apostle in the place of Lebbaeus;
Acts 1:13 And when they were come in, they went up into an upper room, where abode both Peter, and James, and John, and Andrew, Philip, and Thomas, Bartholomew, and Matthew, James the son of Alphaeus, and Simon Zelotes, and Judas the brother of James.
and the same Judas is speaking here;
John 14:22 Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?
And it gets even more interesting, as we have only started!
I only just realised this, whilst going over again, and checking out my proof, I made a mistake in the other forum regarding Levi. It is more clear now and this is how it goes;
JUDAS (Lebbaeus SurnameThaddaeus) and his brother James, obviously both sons of Alphaeus have another brother LEVI also the son of Alphaeus who is MATTHEW
Now to prove Matthew is also Levi, we have these clues to go by;
In Mark, Jesus first called the two brothers Simon (Peter) & Andrew who were fishing (Mark 1:16), then he went a little further and he called the brothers James and John, who were also fishermen, mending their nets (Mark 1:19), then in next chapter Jesus calls Levi, who is sitting at the receipt of custom,... then Levi invites Jesus to a great feast in his house with many of his publican friends, who turns out to be MATTHEW, SAME GUY!
Mark 2:14 And as he passed by, he saw Levi the son of Alphaeus sitting at the receipt of custom, and said unto him, Follow me. And he arose and followed him.
Mark 2:15 And it came to pass, that, as Jesus sat at meat in his house, many publicans and sinners sat also together with Jesus and his disciples: for there were many, and they followed him.
Mark 2:16 And when the scribes and Pharisees saw him eat with publicans and sinners, they said unto his disciples, How is it that he eateth and drinketh with publicans and sinners?
Mark 2:17 When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
Here in Luke, it speaks of that same day
Luke 5:29 And Levi made him a great feast in his own house: and there was a great company of publicans and of others that sat down with them. Luke 5:30 But their scribes and Pharisees murmured against his disciples, saying, Why do ye eat and drink with publicans and sinners? Luke 5:31 And Jesus answering said unto them, They that are whole need not a physician; but they that are sick.
Compare to Matthew;
Matthew 9:9 And as Jesus passed forth from thence, he saw a man, named Matthew, sitting at the receipt of custom: and he saith unto him, Follow me. And he arose, and followed him.
Matthew 9:10 And it came to pass, as Jesus sat at meat in the house, behold, many publicans and sinners came and sat down with him and his disciples.
Matthew 9:11 And when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto his disciples, Why eateth your Master with publicans and sinners?
Matthew 9:12 But when Jesus heard that, he said unto them, They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick.
So Lebbaeus (surname Thaddaeus), who we have already established is also Judas (brother of James), and James, the two fishermen, have another brother who is a publican which happens to be Matthew. That's three apostles from one family!
Matthew aka Levi.
What else are we going to find out! I still havn't answered about Mark.
Whilst we are on the subject of these three brothers to keep our train of thought going....Lebbaeus (surname Thaddaeus) who is Judas (brother of James), the fishermen, ....well shorten his name....from JUDAS....and you have Jude....therefore he is the same man responsible for writing the BOOK OF JUDE! That's him!
Lebbaeus aka Judas, aka JUDE.
What a twist to sort through!
Jude 1:1 Jude, the servant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James, to them that are sanctified by God the Father, and preserved in Jesus Christ, and called:
There are so many clues staring us in the face that we never picked up before. This rabbit's hole is going deeper and deeper, I am getting through the layers ok, so please be patient. This is a lot of information to take in. It will not affect our salvation knowing this, or not knowing, but it's so interesting and exciting because it gets even more intriguing, and I am picking up more things just going over this. I praise the Lord for showing me my error regarding Levi, who I thought was Judas brother of James, but in truth is the third brother of this family, and incorrectly stated on the other forum last year around Sept, of which I will have to go back and correct.
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Post by tlsitd on Jun 13, 2018 5:39:31 GMT -5
Thank you everyone for looking into it. I had to go back to my old post to see how I came to my conclusion to refresh my memory, so I have copied and pasted some parts of what I already explained word for word. This is how I came to my conclusion, which I think now is necessary to explain how I reached my answer. According to book of Matthew According to Book of Luke
1. Simon (called Peter) 1. Simon (also named Peter) 2. Andrew (his brother) 2. Andrew (his brother)3. James (son of Zebedee) 3. James 4. John (his brother) 4. John 5. Philip 5. Philip 6. Bartholomew 6. Bartholomew 7. Thomas 7. Matthew 8. Matthew (the publican) 8. Thomas 9. James (son of Alphaeus) 9. James (son of Alphaeus)10. Lebbaeus (surname Thaddaeus) 10. Simon (called Zelotes)11. Simon (the canaanite) 11. Judas (brother of James)12. Judas Iscariot (who betrayed him) 12. Judas Iscariot (the traitor) I first noticed that there were two sets of brothers. Simon (Called Peter) & Andrew are the first set, James and John are the second set, and then as I carried on with my investigation down further, I found a third set of brothers amongst this list. I noticed also that instead of Lebbaeus (surname Thaddaeus), as listed in Matthew & Mark, we have Judas (brother of James) listed in Luke. It's the same guy, but with a different name,..... but which James is he the brother of? It can only be James (son of Alphaeus), because the other James is the brother of John who wrote Revelation. James and John are the sons of Zebedee, whilst Judas (also called Lebbaeus) and James are both the sons of Alphaeus.So out of the 12 apostles there are three sets of brothers. Very interesting! Simon (Peter) & AndrewJames & JohnLebbaeus (surname Thaddaeus) /Judas and James (son of Alphaeus)
Judas mentioned as the brother of James to confirm again it's this same apostle in the place of Lebbaeus;
Acts 1:13 And when they were come in, they went up into an upper room, where abode both Peter, and James, and John, and Andrew, Philip, and Thomas, Bartholomew, and Matthew, James the son of Alphaeus, and Simon Zelotes, and Judas the brother of James.
and the same Judas is speaking here;
John 14:22 Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?
And it gets even more interesting, as we have only started! I only just realised this, whilst going over again, and checking out my proof, I made a mistake in the other forum regarding Levi. It is more clear now and this is how it goes; JUDAS (Lebbaeus SurnameThaddaeus) and his brother James, obviously both sons of Alphaeus have another brother LEVI also the son of Alphaeus who is MATTHEW
Now to prove Matthew is also Levi, we have these clues to go by;
In Mark, Jesus first called the two brothers Simon (Peter) & Andrew who were fishing (Mark 1:16), then he went a little further and he called the brothers James and John, who were also fishermen, mending their nets (Mark 1:19), then in next chapter Jesus calls Levi, who is sitting at the receipt of custom,... then Levi invites Jesus to a great feast in his house with many of his publican friends, who turns out to be MATTHEW, SAME GUY!
Mark 2:14 And as he passed by, he saw Levi the son of Alphaeus sitting at the receipt of custom, and said unto him, Follow me. And he arose and followed him.
Mark 2:15 And it came to pass, that, as Jesus sat at meat in his house, many publicans and sinners sat also together with Jesus and his disciples: for there were many, and they followed him.
Mark 2:16 And when the scribes and Pharisees saw him eat with publicans and sinners, they said unto his disciples, How is it that he eateth and drinketh with publicans and sinners?
Mark 2:17 When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
Here in Luke, it speaks of that same day
Luke 5:29 And Levi made him a great feast in his own house: and there was a great company of publicans and of others that sat down with them. Luke 5:30 But their scribes and Pharisees murmured against his disciples, saying, Why do ye eat and drink with publicans and sinners? Luke 5:31 And Jesus answering said unto them, They that are whole need not a physician; but they that are sick.
Compare to Matthew;
Matthew 9:9 And as Jesus passed forth from thence, he saw a man, named Matthew, sitting at the receipt of custom: and he saith unto him, Follow me. And he arose, and followed him. Matthew 9:10 And it came to pass, as Jesus sat at meat in the house, behold, many publicans and sinners came and sat down with him and his disciples. Matthew 9:11 And when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto his disciples, Why eateth your Master with publicans and sinners?
Matthew 9:12 But when Jesus heard that, he said unto them, They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick. So Lebbaeus (surname Thaddaeus), who we have already established is also Judas (brother of James), and James, the two fishermen, have another brother who is a publican which happens to be Matthew. That's three apostles from one family! Matthew aka Levi.What else are we going to find out! I still havn't answered about Mark. Whilst we are on the subject of these three brothers to keep our train of thought going.... Lebbaeus (surname Thaddaeus) who is Judas ( brother of James), the fishermen, ....well shorten his name....from JUDAS....and you have Jude....therefore he is the same man responsible for writing the BOOK OF JUDE! That's him! Lebbaeus aka Judas, aka JUDE.What a twist to sort through! Jude 1:1 Jude, the servant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James, to them that are sanctified by God the Father, and preserved in Jesus Christ, and called: There are so many clues staring us in the face that we never picked up before. This rabbit's hole is going deeper and deeper, I am getting through the layers ok, so please be patient. This is a lot of information to take in. It will not affect our salvation knowing this, or not knowing, but it's so interesting and exciting because it gets even more intriguing, and I am picking up more things just going over this. I praise the Lord for showing me my error regarding Levi, who I thought was Judas brother of James, but in truth is the third brother of this family, and incorrectly stated on the other forum last year around Sept, of which I will have to go back and correct. continued/.... Well that's interesting, Sister. You've obviously done a lot of research into this subject. I looked back into the Scriptures and I noticed a few things that I thought I would share: In the gospel of Matthew (who is also called Levi), the groups of brothers are noted as such. For example (in Matthew 10): ...Simon, who is called Peter, and Andrew his brother; James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother.
Then the other apostles are mentioned, without any mention of family ties between Matthew, James and Thaddaeus/Lebbaeus, which it seems likely that Matthew (or one of the other authors of the gospels) would have noted if there was one, as he did with Peter and Andrew and James and John. In the gospel of Luke, Thaddaeus/Lebbaeus is referred to as Judas, but he is not referred to as the son of Alphaeus but rather as the son of a James (Luke 6:16 ESV). (The KJV translates Luke 6:16 differently than other translations; it translates it as "brother of" while most others translate it as "son of"). Only the apostle James is consistently described as "the son of Alphaeus", as a specific title of identification, in any of the gospels, in the parallel Scriptures about the choosing of the twelve disciples. In every gospel, when the Lord's choosing of His 12 disciples is described, James the son of Alphaeus is exlusively identified by that title. If the same Alphaeus was also the father of Matthew/Levi, it seems likely to me that Matthew and James' brotherhood would have been mentioned somewhere, as that of Peter and Andrew and James and John is. Levi's father's name is only mentioned once, in Mark 2:14, but later in the same epistle, where Levi is called Matthew and is mentioned among the twelve apostles, his father's name is not mentioned, but James' is ("the son of Alphaeus", as always), probably to show that the two of them were not related, which might have been assumed if Matthew had also been described as "the son of Alphaeus". (A lot of people had the same name back then, so the fact that James and Levi/Matthew both had fathers named Alphaeus doesn't necessarily mean that they were brothers. They could have just had fathers with the same name.) As for James and Jude being brothers, the Jude who wrote the epistle of Jude was not Judas the son of James (Luke 6:16) or a brother of James the son of Alphaeus, but the brother of Jesus. Jesus had natural brothers and sisters, and two of His brothers were named James and Judas. "Is not this the carpenter's son? Is not His mother called Mary? And are not His brothers James and Joseph and Simon and Judas? And are not all His sisters with us?" (Matthew 13:55,56) Jesus' brothers weren't initially believers (John 7:2-5), nor apostles, but His brothers James and Judas (aka Jude) eventually became believers---perhaps after Jesus' resurrection---and James later became an apostle of importance in the church in Jerusalem. He is mentioned in Galatians chapters 1 (verse 19) and 2, and is most likely the James of Acts 15:13, given Paul's description of him as a pillar of the church in Jerusalem in Paul's epistle to the Galatians. For the same reason, he is probably also the author of the epistle of James, rather than James the son of Alphaeus or James the brother of John, who was killed with the sword early on in the apostles' ministry (Acts 12:1,2). Jude, the author of the epistle of Jude, is the brother of this James, the brother of Jesus, not James son of Alphaeus.
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Post by Sister on Jun 13, 2018 10:04:35 GMT -5
Yes, I went through all this last year, and welcome any thing anyone can add or correct.
Yes, the two sets of brothers are clear....Peter and Andrew, James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother. And yes there are no family ties mentioned specifically to Matthew being brothers with James and Thaddaeus/Lebbaeus, but clues were left for us to work this out, when we realise that Matthew is Levi, who is the son of Alphaeus, and James who we already know is definitely the son of Alphaeus, but Judas only noted as being the brother of James,..so which James?...I went through every James I could find, and came to the conclusion it could not be the James already mentioned as James the son of Zebedee,(John's brother), nor the James, Jesus' brother from Mary, who is mentioned as James the less, therefore I concluded that he has to be James the son of Alphaeus, because Peter and Andrew were called first, then James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother were called after that, now that only leaves James son of Alphaeus.
Mark 15:40 There were also women looking on afar off: among whom was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James the less and of Joses, and Salome; (Jesus Mother)
The relationship doesn't have to be noted, like it was with the other two sets of brothers, if God doesn't want it specifically noted, but I liken it to the gospels which show a difference to the witness accounts at the sepulchure of Jesus, on the morning he rose, which all say different things, but when you link them together you see the fuller picture. ie. In Matthew there was Mary Magdalene and the other Mary at the sepulcher, and an angel spoke to them telling them to go tell the disciples he is risen from the dead and to meet him in Galilee. In Mark, we find out that the "other Mary" was Jesus mother and that a young man spoke to them, and in Matthew it says 2 angels spoke to them.
Could I be wrong? Yes there is always that possibility, but what I saw and found here, is what I believe to be strong links, until something definitely cancels it out, and I am willing to hear it out, and look at your next point to consider.
That's interesting you pointed that out, but I am only going of the KJV, because I don't doubt it, but fully trust it word for word. If we are going to compare different translations, then we won't be on the same page.
Noted, but again, God doesn't have to specifically mention if he wants us to find it.
I think if God threw a different Alphaeus in the mix, then this whole thing would sink into a big hole!
Yes I answered this above, and cancelled this one out because Jesus brother was James the less.
Yes I have all the scriptures of Jesus brothers and was going to bring that up next.
Galatians 1:19 But other of the apostles saw I none, save James the Lord's brother.
You do make a good point there, and one to consider, but weren't the apostles only 12 of them, and the rest disciples.
Regarding James being a pillar, so was Cephas (Peter), and John.
Galatians 2:9 And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.
But then there is nothing that says Jude is the brother of James the Less either? And the other James (son of Alphaeus) was often mentioned just as "James". I also take into account that the apostles are our foundations, and the teachers Jesus chose to lead the church, therefore it makes more sense to me that these are the authors of the gospels and epistles. But I will look into it further later,because I have been on this too long now, and losing my train of thought for the next lot of info, but thank you.
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Post by Sister on Jun 14, 2018 8:59:30 GMT -5
I am going to leave this for a bit and check out some of the things that sister lights pointed out. It's going to take a while, and it gives me a head-ache to tell you the truth!
And, yes I am under the impression that Mark is the youngest apostle John,.... in my spirit I know he is, but I need more conclusive evidence to make this an absolute fact, and if the Lord grant me this, I will share, and if he shows me he is definitely not, I will share also because I don't want to put any errors out there. When this was all revealed to me about a year ago, I was so excited, and it was just one thing after another that was unfolding. I still have a big list of things to share, but will do that after double checking again.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2018 10:16:32 GMT -5
What strikes me is how in the bible there are people names as well as place names that are not easy to trace...there can be multitple names for the same person or place. I can't help but think the Lord sometimes has made use of that for particular purposes, in how He wrote His word.
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Post by 2fw8212a on Jun 14, 2018 11:20:34 GMT -5
I can't help but think the Lord sometimes has made use of that for particular purposes, in how He wrote His word. I remember that, when I started reading it... Many times thoughts would come to try to discredit the truth of what was written.
Well, only after I started understanding the Spirit and why many things were happening... Then things became much clearer.
Glory to God! Amen.
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Post by Sister on Jun 14, 2018 19:46:22 GMT -5
What strikes me is how in the bible there are people names as well as place names that are not easy to trace...there can be multitple names for the same person or place. I can't help but think the Lord sometimes has made use of that for particular purposes, in how He wrote His word. Yes! And after already stating their new name, eg Simon called Peter, he will still be referred further along as Simon in some places, and even spelt differently as Simeon. So even the spelling of the names change. It's a can of worms.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2018 8:15:04 GMT -5
I can't help but think the Lord sometimes has made use of that for particular purposes, in how He wrote His word. I remember that, when I started reading it... Many times thoughts would come to try to discredit the truth of what was written.
Well, only after I started understanding the Spirit and why many things were happening... Then things became much clearer.
Glory to God! Amen.Amen brother......we just have to remember the Lord works in MYSTERIOUS ways and not like our ways.
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