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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2022 19:38:45 GMT -5
I will have to do a study on this and I have not looked into this yet! If lucifer was a created something why does he not have a life span? He seems to have a body but can shape shift, and all the fallen angles, they must have bodies!. Demons seem to be a Diff thing, demons the disembodied spirits of the Nephilim and the bible tells us this. The fallen seem to have bodies that will not die. I now the bible says that we where created lower then the angle till we get our What did the resurrected body of Jesus look like? The Bible tells us that after Jesus’ cruel torture, crucifixion, and three days in the tomb, He was recognizable, and that His followers knew who He was.
We know that He had a body of flesh and bone. Jesus told the disciples, “Behold My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself. Handle Me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see I have” (Luke 24:39).
We also know that Jesus ate food. Imagine the surprise of the disciples when the risen Lord appeared to them and then said, “Have you any food here?”
What?” they must have been thinking. But they gave Jesus a piece of broiled fish and some honeycomb, and He ate it (see Luke 24:41–43).
His resurrected body also could be touched and felt. When the women were returning from the empty tomb, “Behold, Jesus met them, saying, ‘Rejoice!’ So they came and held Him by the feet and worshiped Him” (Matthew 28:9). Your Thoughts
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Post by John on Jan 3, 2022 23:34:12 GMT -5
We know Lucifer is older than Adam, which puts him in excess of 6000 years old. Angels do not die like human beings do. Death came upon humans because of Adam's sin in the garden.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2022 8:14:41 GMT -5
I believe that too. I believe God created Satan along with the other angels and they would have been created before the creation of the universe and Adam. We get some clue here - The book of Job describes the angels worshiping God as He was creating the world: "Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundation? Tell me, if you understand. Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know! Who stretched a measuring line across it? On what were its footings set, or who laid its cornerstone - while the morning stars sang together and all the angels shouted for joy?" (Job 38:4-7).
Angels are essentially spiritual beings without bodies. Hebrews 1:14 calls them ministering spirits. When they appear to people, they normally are seen with bodies. Sometimes they appear as ordinary men (Hebrews 13:2) or incredibly glorious men (Daniel 10:16) and sometimes as fantastic creatures (Isaiah 6:2; Ezekiel 1:4–14). However, since angels do not have bodies, these forms are only manifestations in material/visible form. They do not represent what the angel actually “looks like” because a spirit is essentially invisible, at least to the physical eye. Angels sometimes appear with wings in Scripture and are often depicted with wings in art, but physical wings are used to move physical bodies through physical air, and again, angels are spirit beings.
Since angels do not have physical bodies, they cannot be hurt in the sense of suffering physical harm in the same way a human being with a body could be hurt. Likewise, angels cannot die in that sense, either. Physical death is something that humans experience when their bodies cease working and their spirits depart from their bodies. Since angels do not have physical bodies, they cannot experience physical death.
It is possible that angels do encounter some perils in the spiritual world, perils that are beyond our normal experience or comprehension. An angel was sent with an answer to Daniel’s prayer but was detained by “the Prince of Persia” (a fallen angel/demon) and prevented from coming to Daniel for 21 days (Daniel 10:12–13). How was the angel detained? We are not told. Even though they are spirits, angels are not omnipresent, so they do have some kind of localized existence that apparently can be contained. When angels “fight” with demons, do they get injured by each other? Perhaps, but we are simply not told what this type of fighting entails. When we are in battle with spiritual forces, we do not use physical weapons but the armor of God detailed in Ephesians 6:10–18.
If demons are fallen angels, then we know that angels can suffer. When Jesus cast demons out, they sometimes feared that Jesus was going to torture or torment them (see Matthew 8:29; Luke 8:28). Legion begged Jesus not to send them into the Abyss, a holding place for fallen angels/demons (Luke 8:21). If they feared going there, they must be able to suffer in some way. At the final judgment, all of the fallen angels will be cast into the lake of fire (Matthew 25:41), which is the “second death” (Revelation 20:14). There, fallen angels will experience spiritual death, which is defined as separation from God. How can a spiritual being be tormented by flames of fire? We don’t know. As spiritual beings who were meant to enjoy fellowship with God, isolation from God will result in the worst kind of torture.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2022 8:14:22 GMT -5
I have no idea on how old he is. I believe Satan is a created being, not from eternity past. The Bible said that all things were created by God, so to me, this included angels and the ones who left God are now demons. Revelations said Satan will be thrown into hell. Eternal torment for him and God is allowing Him to do whatever God allows, until the end. Revelations.
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Post by davidsheep88 on Jan 24, 2022 9:28:04 GMT -5
I wish he was dead and destroyed -_- so must sufferment he gave to humanity.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2022 10:09:33 GMT -5
Yes brother, me too. I want to be as close to Jesus as I possibly can. Dear Jesus, please help us to live for you and think and do right and trust and obey You. Yes, Jesus. Please heal and protect us. Please help us to love our neighbors and enemies and let more people to believe in You Jesus. In Jesus' name. Amen. |
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Post by frienduff on Jan 24, 2022 17:31:37 GMT -5
Yes brother, me too. I want to be as close to Jesus as I possibly can. Dear Jesus, please help us to live for you and think and do right and trust and obey You. Yes, Jesus. Please heal and protect us. Please help us to love our neighbors and enemies and let more people to believe in You Jesus. In Jesus' name. Amen. Yep , we gotta stand on the one true original life saving gospel . Let none be allured into this other false all inclusive gospel . Which teaches all paths as vaild so long as they have love . What a lie that one is . We must believe in JESUS to be saved . Believe that God has rose him from the dead , confess Him by mouth . And be hearers and doers of the glorious word . We have us a mighty battle to contend for the true faith once delivered . The world and her religoins are creating a false love god . their god has become a false love . a love not compatible to GOD or HIS LOVE . FOR the LOVE of GOD would point to CHRIST as the only means of salvation . Any love that points to a false love and says you do not have to beleive in Christ to be saved , WELL ITS NEITHER LOVE nor OF GOD . |
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Post by John on Jul 3, 2022 20:02:24 GMT -5
I wish he was dead and destroyed -_- so must sufferment he gave to humanity.
It would be nice if he was at least locked up in the pit, unable to bother us. That is not the plan of God, for now, but it is coming.
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Post by davidsheep88 on Jul 5, 2022 10:39:59 GMT -5
Yes not yet, not yet ;-; the day it happens will be happy so many he killed and they will never return. We wish for all of them to be in heaven. Too many died john too many have died because of him hard test it is. We will push thru but family and firend slsot to him is unbearable sometimes but we know that is A test and we accept God's will. The day I see him and john you see him been thru when we are in heaven you were right John.
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