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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2019 17:05:26 GMT -5
(Reply to Butero) It could be brother........my discernment was that he was Muslim though, from before he put on any music at all. I have talked to Muslims before, as well as believing former Muslims. And it was linked to the dream. Still, this isn't an exact science. Although the Lord is warning to be careful, of that I am completely sure. I'll share the dream in case anyone has any more insight from it, it was a bit strange... I was in a parking lot with a lot of cars and people walking around...next thing a woman came up to me, friendly and pleasant, and I forget if she said or just seemed like she was a Christian. She was pushing what looked like a shopping cart or baby buggy and parked it there. Somehow the cart/buggy was moving around and kept getting in the way of the cars and the people who were walking. Next, I was holding this thing in my hand, the power pack from the cart/buggy, and somehow I knew that me and the people I was with were under surveillance through this power pack thing...we were being spied on...it seemed to be a digital device of some kind, about the size of a cell-phone but boxier in shape. The next thing I knew it was plugged into the wall, and when I tried to pull it out it wouldn't budge, as though it had rooted itself in the electrical outlet. It seems like a contradiction, but the next scene was that I put that thing in the fridge/freezer and shut the door, and the people I was with were glad. I believe the idea conveyed with that is that we put it away from us. At first nothing made sense, it seemed like a 'pizza dream'to be forgotten, but then for some reason I thought of that store with the Muslim man. And then later the Lord gave me that scripture, so then I knew as sure as I could be that the dream was a warning from the Lord. I will add that from my understanding, in dreams...vehicles often represent ministry...and I believe the people walking represents believers and their walk with the Lord. The whole parking lot I believe represented the church as a whole. This is what occurred to me based on my understanding of dreams... you saw people on various walks/journeys who had congregated at a gathering place (either the church or the corporate body). The woman you saw wasn’t on a journey. She wasn’t passing through. She loitered in that spot with her own agenda to monitor everyone coming and going. She had no vehicle driving her; she was “pushing” a small vehicle of her own. It kept disrupting those who passed through. She had been given some sort of power or energy to complete her spy assignment. You took it from her. It ran back to its source to try to keep itself going. The original source was bigger and stronger than the woman. To keep it away from its source, you put it in a freezer to starve it. Amen, thanks for that observation PG4....her vehicle/ministry is one that is self-driven (flesh/devil). "She" might represent mystery Babylon, come to exert her bad influence within the church.....the character of her ministry can be seen in the shopping cart cum baby buggy.....she is "shopping" for born-again (baby) souls...trading in souls and making merchandise of them. We can't get her out of the church, or change her nature (power source is the devil), each one needs to put her away and shut the door on her in our hearts. Freezer is cold.....yes, starve and put her to death as concerns our hearts.....coldness, so don't be 'friends' with her (as in freeze and kill any friendship we might still have with the world?). Anyway, not to take you off topic here sister, thanks for your input....and I think we've got the gist, thanks be to God.
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Post by frienduff on Apr 25, 2019 14:45:15 GMT -5
Or he was showing that he was familiar with Christianity so watchful would be less inclined to evangelize... not that we have to evangelize in every conversation. Either way, someone acting like that is probably not open to evangelism. I’m not rushing back into the church system just because one pastor had an epiphany. I only found this testimony interesting to show how he was recruited to Calvinism and how he got away from it. Amen, yes, I understand...I didn't think that you were. Just that for some reason it seemed timely and appropriate to share the warning here. I'm not speaking regarding that man in the video in particular...but it might be that in general parts of the church are going to seem to change for the better in order to entice 'wilderness believers' to go back. To me it's like a burning building...we are not to run back into it. (unless the Lord leads us to, for His purposes) Got the same thing YOU did sister . Don't forget this verse , and they will cling to us by flatteries . ITS ALL a scam and a deception . ITALL IS . And you were given that dream as a warning to be on guard . This whole big love religion is behind this too . YOU WATCH how many are going to be flooding in under its guise . JUS WATCH . We better be on double duty guard man . This deception it aint playing , ITS ALL ABOUT DECEPTION . Sounds to me , like the man was trying to PANDER to what HE thought YOU WERE . As does this big love religion too . They simply gonna pander to us , BUT THEIR HEART WONT BE WITH US . TIS all deception and I am telling us WE ALL had better guard our hearts WITH THE PRESCIOUS WORD OF GOD . Cause this is one slippery slope and these folks really THINK its all about LOVE , ALLL about GOD and that GOD is of all religions , peoples and its love panders to all sins . ONLY they don't see their evil as sin , they see it as who GOD made them to be . ITS GONNA FLOOD the world , ITS GONNA FLOOD the churches , ITS GONNA FLOOD the religions . AND THIER IS NO STOPPING THIS . WE in the last days , AND MORE than ever , a double , triple time effort must be made to Say and ensure THAT JESUS is the only way that anything of darkness is NOT the LOVE OF GOD , its all of the dark one . WE gonna be seen as the monsters of the entire world . WHEN This has ran its course , THAT IS OUR BADGE to wear , MONSTERS of the world and haters of humanity . BUT LOOK at how the world treated JESUS , so no marvle , ITS JUST NOW its a one world massive end time delusion running course . AND It aint SLOWING Down .
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Post by frienduff on Apr 25, 2019 14:57:20 GMT -5
Or he was showing that he was familiar with Christianity so watchful would be less inclined to evangelize... not that we have to evangelize in every conversation. Either way, someone acting like that is probably not open to evangelism. I’m not rushing back into the church system just because one pastor had an epiphany. I only found this testimony interesting to show how he was recruited to Calvinism and how he got away from it. Something is all wrong man . How many have been taught about an big END TIME revival , AND YET the BIBLE SAYS OTHERWISE . We were called out for a reason . BUT remember at the end or near it , their is a big unification under the beast . The exodus , is now the ENTRODUS . THEY DOING everything to just get folks back into churches , ONLY what churches . HMMM, WHAT CHURCHES . We got a major problem and I see the slippery slope of the enemy behind it all. Satan aint some dumb entity . HE ISFULL OF WISDOM , PLUMB FULL OF IT . HE KNOWS how to deceive , HE KNOWS How to allure , HE KNOWS how to twist scriptures . He has more wisdom than Daniel , He was the wisest of all the angels . NO MARVEL , HE KNOWS how to deceive . HE knows how and what words to use , HE uses the word LOVE , but its darkness , HE uses the word unity , BUT out of text and ties into this inclusive fake love . He , as in satan , IS doing all now to get us to be unequally yoked for the sake of HIS UNITY . THIS UNITY is not OF GOD . NOT ONE LICK OF IT IS . It honors or hides its eyes from sin , IT focuses on sensual worldy common ground , it omits the dire warnings of GOD . it is darkness , my its darkness but to many IT SIMPLY IS THE LIGHT , ITS THE HOPE , ITS THE LOVE , its the CURE , ITS THE Grand plan and total sum solution . ITS a madhouse sister . WHEN JESUS spoke of the end or near it , ALL I HEARD WAS BE ON GAURD , MASSIVE DECEPTOIN , MASSIVE SIN , ICE COLD , inquity abounding < and to be ON GAURD . DONT HEAR THAT from most today , TODAY TIS lets all gather , LETS ALL PUT down what divides , LETS US ALL UNITE , LETS ALL LOVE , GOD IS LOVE . THEY GOT NO IDEA that is not GOD they follow and it sure as heck aint THE LOVE THAT COMES FROM GOD they embrace . IF IT WERE GODS LOVE they embraced THEN WHY are they casting out the truth for the sake of this sorry evil unity . CAUSE the last time I checked CHARITY REJOICES IN TRUTH , NOT WORLD PEACE and UNITY . BUT TRUTH . THIS IS ALL a massive decptoin , but its so deceptive because of how its twisted .
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Post by frienduff on Apr 25, 2019 15:09:44 GMT -5
Or he was showing that he was familiar with Christianity so watchful would be less inclined to evangelize... not that we have to evangelize in every conversation. Either way, someone acting like that is probably not open to evangelism. I’m not rushing back into the church system just because one pastor had an epiphany. I only found this testimony interesting to show how he was recruited to Calvinism and how he got away from it. Did they ever even warn out against john piper , or some of those other names . SIS , something aint right , and now all of a sudden he has THIS EPHINANY . Man where is the discernment gone . Just cause folks might know their is in error in calvanism or other things , Don't mean much at all . EVEN JOSPEH smith had some stuff dead spot on right . SCARY HUH . But its how deception works . always the deceiver will know truth and use truth , but also will use confusion and lies too . DID they ever even warn out against those folks . Something aint right . And I warn us all, this Lets be as one mindset , lets unify mindset , IT AINT GOING TO GO AWAY , ITS GOING TO GET WORSE . I aint going back into eygpt . I wont do it . I will go where GOD LEADS and HE LEADS us where HE DESIRES . And where HE desires and what HE DESIRES will never contradict TRUTH , HIS WORD . WAY too many spirits doing some deceptive deceiving these days . And folks aint BIBLED UP to be able to discern these ever clever world wise people . Folks men can deceive. THEY can appear as a christain and yet NOT BE ONE . and no marvle , for satan himself can appear as an angel of LIGHT , YET HE IS DARKNESS . WE ARE NEARING THE END and deception is going to go VIRAL beyond VIRAL . Wait , just wait . The all inclusive all religions , WILL SOON HAVE THIER OWN MIRACLES . AND ITS ALL ALLOWED . And this will cause the weaker ones to really stumble . FOR THEY will use the miracles and the simple will simply belive , OH GOD MUST REALLY BE the AUTHOR OF ALL RELIGINS . SHOULD have read duet chapter thirteen . YEP its allowed all right . AND remember he deceives them by the means of those miracles he had power to do , IN THE SIGHT OF THE BEAST .
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Post by PG4Him on Apr 25, 2019 15:27:55 GMT -5
I used to frequent some blogs on pastoring. Church leadership stuff. You should see how angry they are about the mass exodus. The peasants are revolting, and the pastors are not amused. They are writing one blog post after another about crybaby members. Denominations are beating the pastors to bring in more money. They are all in for seeker friendly changes. Whatever it takes to pay the bills. Small churches across the country are being told “go seeker friendly or we’ll let you shut down.”
Pastors introduce it slowly while they claim it’s not their agenda. They hope to ease people into. People don’t appreciate being lied to, so they quit when they see the full agenda. It’s happening everywhere. Denominations are behind it. You should see how they talk. Members have no right to expect to be fed, discipled, helped, or even noticed. They are expected to cough up money and keep their mouths shut. Yes, it’s that bad.
I used to think pastors were mostly good people who perhaps had a few flaws. Unfortunately now, most pastors are businessmen who couldn’t care less about the plight of an average member. I spent a lot of time reading their blogs because I wanted to look for signs that they understood what was happening. I had to come to the conclusion that they understand full well and they are behind it.
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Post by frienduff on Apr 25, 2019 18:33:07 GMT -5
I used to frequent some blogs on pastoring. Church leadership stuff. You should see how angry they are about the mass exodus. The peasants are revolting, and the pastors are not amused. They are writing one blog post after another about crybaby members. Denominations are beating the pastors to bring in more money. They are all in for seeker friendly changes. Whatever it takes to pay the bills. Small churches across the country are being told “go seeker friendly or we’ll let you shut down.” Pastors introduce it slowly while they claim it’s not their agenda. They hope to ease people into. People don’t appreciate being lied to, so they quit when they see the full agenda. It’s happening everywhere. Denominations are behind it. You should see how they talk. Members have no right to expect to be fed, discipled, helped, or even noticed. They are expected to cough up money and keep their mouths shut. Yes, it’s that bad. I used to think pastors were mostly good people who perhaps had a few flaws. Unfortunately now, most pastors are businessmen who couldn’t care less about the plight of an average member. I spent a lot of time reading their blogs because I wanted to look for signs that they understood what was happening. I had to come to the conclusion that they understand full well and they are behind it. And THE LORD has called his sheep OUT OF ALL THAT . We going to take care of one another , pray for one another , And keep JESUS first the gospel first and no false seeker friendly . You are loved sister candance .
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Post by 2fw8212a on Apr 25, 2019 18:41:37 GMT -5
PG4Him frienduffAs I see it, many under OSAS doctrine have problems accepting holy living and: Sin no more.
That is strange, as the Lord Himself called us all to repentance.
"I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance." - Luke 5:32
What is the problem with walking holy and pursuing sanctification?! Isn't that supposed to be a fruit of our faith in Him?!
"...that they may receive forgiveness of sins and an
inheritance among those who are sanctified by faith in Me." - Acts 26:18
"For this is the will of God, your sanctification:
that you should abstain from sexual immorality; that each of you should know
how to possess his own vessel in sanctification and honor..." - 1 Thessalonians 4:3-4
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Post by frienduff on Apr 25, 2019 18:47:55 GMT -5
PG4Him frienduff As I see it, many under OSAS doctrine have problems accepting holy living and: Sin no more.
That is strange, as the Lord Himself called us all to repentance.
"I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance." - Luke 5:32
What is the problem with walking holy and pursuing sanctification?! Isn't that supposed to be a fruit of our faith in Him?!
"...that they may receive forgiveness of sins and an
inheritance among those who are sanctified by faith in Me." - Acts 26:18
"For this is the will of God, your sanctification:
that you should abstain from sexual immorality; that each of you should know
how to possess his own vessel in sanctification and honor..." - 1 Thessalonians 4:3-4 That's right letters . To the LORD be all glory . For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness, holiness, righteousness, And what does it prove letters . PROVING what is ACCEPTABLE UNTO GOD . THAT is the FRUIT of the SPIRIT . Notice it does not say proving what is acceptable in the eyes of men , or what Is relevant for the age or culture , or ......... BUT PROVING what is ACCEPTABLE to GOD . Of course , for the SPIRIT is GOD . NOW , praise the LORD everyone . PRAISE THE LORD . We going to exhort one another daily , and HONOR THE LORD who saved us and is able to keep us from falling . Cling to the LORD and feast on the bible .
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