karanbac
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Post by karanbac on May 12, 2018 17:26:08 GMT -5
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Post by frienduff on May 12, 2018 20:08:41 GMT -5
He left out the correct choice--Israel is the church in the wilderness and through the mediation of Jesus Christ, God graffed the Gentiles into his church making these twain into one new man. We've already addressed this. Paul, the apostle to the Gentiles, said this to the Philippian church:
Exactly . And JESUS made that clear . He told some I told you and you did not hear , because as I said you are not sheep. AND OTHERS , gentiles, I must bring also and they will be ONE FOLD and ONE SHEPARD. ONE FOLD jews and gentiles WHO BELEIEVE IN JESUS anyone not in that fold , It don't matter what they call themselves , they aint saved and they aint OF Israel. WHO did paul say was of ISRAEL , the children of promise , AKA JESUS BELIEVING ONES . and that now consists of jews and gentiles . SO LIFT UP THOSE HANDS SISTER, YOU RAISE and you PRAISE the LORD .
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Post by justinadams on May 13, 2018 2:23:36 GMT -5
People have lined up for reproductions of Hitler's WWII automobile. Others have followed very dubious doctrines of 'great' men of the past...
I am afraid I cannot give you a plugged nickel for Calvin's various works. I do not care how well reasoned and theologically 'sound' some find them. I just cannot go along with a person that had many burned and tortured because they did not agree with him. He even threw some in prison that failed to address him as Master Calvin.
No thanks. Dispensation's TULIP ideas are anathema to me. My Lord Yahweh is just not like that.. AT ALL.
My God is GOOD - ALL THE TIME.
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Post by PG4Him on May 13, 2018 10:15:29 GMT -5
As a general safeguard, I never get information from people who are ranting about "agents of the devil."
Much of this depends on how many promises we believe God made. Did it really stop at making a nation and giving them some land? If so, then why does the article go on to quote Romans 4 with the promise of a seed? How do we reconcile Joshua 23 with Galatians 3? God promised Abraham that "all the families of the earth will be blessed" through him... how did Joshua reckon such a thing was accomplished?
If Judah was told that the scepter would not depart from his house, and this was prophetic of David leading to Christ, how was that fulfilled in Joshua's day?
Hebrews 4 tells us Joshua's generation did not see God's ultimate rest. Joshua spoke of another day of rest. How do we square that with Solomon in 1 Kings 8 allegedly saying the rest is fulfilled?
In Joshua's time, all that was promised to his generation was achieved. In Solomon's time, a shadow of God's rest was given to Israel, which fulfilled the most that God had promised to them. We can rightfully debate on whether the church is now fulfilling the rest of Israel's destiny... but it's nonsense to say the Abrahamic promises were done with Joshua.
At its core, dispensationalism teaches that God reveals His plan in phases. Each generation moves one step closer toward the great unfolding. This is why Hebrews 11 says the OT saints died in faith having seen the promises afar. Every generation up to this very moment has died with outstanding promises still afar. How many great Christians in history have died without seeing Christ in His Second Coming? How many great Christian preachers warned their generation of a rapture that didn't happen? Maybe we will see it with our own eyes in living color, maybe we will die first. But it hasn't happened yet. Even those of us in Christ are eagerly groaning for the end-time promises.
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Post by frienduff on May 13, 2018 10:39:04 GMT -5
And what we need to also be on guard against is that sadly most in these movments , will SEE the coming of anti Christ AS the second coming and believe it is Christ come to set up the thousand year reign . THE KINGDOM NOW is now more than ever embracing an all inclusive kingdom building message , WHICH is , you guessed it , GONNA lead them right into the all inclusive mindset for world peace and right to the beast . As I have long said, their are many ways into this all inclusive lie for world peace . And the dark one will spread it however it reaches each particular group. He will say what it is needed to win a buddist , he will say what is needed to win a muslim , a secular , a wican , and sadly yes lost faiths who word only profess JESUS but not in heart . And from secular to all religions , all will simply see the beast and worship it as god who brings unity for world peace . ITS ALLL a sham but its working on those who do not KNOW CHRIST and its common message that will unite them all in time , IS this false sensual love that opens the door then this all inclusive need for unity steps up and the message becomes GOOD WORKS , UNITY , LOVE and all to be as one with a common mindset for world peace . WE cannot be ignorant of satans devices . BUT WE WILL BE , IF WE HEED NOT the PATTERN the SAYINGS , the WORDS of our FOUNDATION , which is the apostles from which all IS made , built from the ONE CORNER STONE CHRIST JESUS . WE MUST feast more than ever on the bible , and follow the lamb and exhort one another daily .
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