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Post by John on May 31, 2019 7:56:40 GMT -5
One of the greatest threats the church faces today is the assault on God's Word. We have been lied to and told that all translations have errors and even that the RCC influenced the KJV translators to intentionally change the Bible to be RCC friendly or anti-Semitic. That is NOT true. We have been lied to and told scribal notes were added to the KJV Bible by mistake, along with other things that were not in the older manuscripts. More lies from the pits of hell.
The KJV Bible is fully trustworthy and using it exclusively will save you from many deceptions. Satan is using the modern translations to change the meaning, not make the Bible easier to understand. Many add to and remove things from the text. They can not be trusted. Also, the KJV has NOT been changed dozens of times. The 1611 Edition used old English spelling and included the 12 books of the Apocrypha in the middle because the translators saw value in them. The Authorized KJV Bible leaves the Apocrypha out, which was never considered part of the canon anyway, and only changes the spelling of words to how we spell them today. Any other so-called changes are fixing publishing errors, not changing the translation. The people making these false claims know the truth, but are servants of Satan that have crept into the church. I am not speaking of those that were deceived by the lies they read, but those who put this stuff out. Do not be deceived.
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Post by solid on May 31, 2019 10:33:19 GMT -5
One of the greatest threats the church faces today is the assault on God's Word. We have been lied to and told that all translations have errors and even that the RCC influenced the KJV translators to intentionally change the Bible to be RCC friendly or anti-Semitic. That is NOT true. We have been lied to and told scribal notes were added to the KJV Bible by mistake, along with other things that were not in the older manuscripts. More lies from the pits of hell.
The KJV Bible is fully trustworthy and using it exclusively will save you from many deceptions. Satan is using the modern translations to change the meaning, not make the Bible easier to understand. Many add to and remove things from the text. They can not be trusted. Also, the KJV has NOT been changed dozens of times. The 1611 Edition used old English spelling and included the 12 books of the Apocrypha in the middle because the translators saw value in them. The Authorized KJV Bible leaves the Apocrypha out, which was never considered part of the canon anyway, and only changes the spelling of words to how we spell them today. Any other so-called changes are fixing publishing errors, not changing the translation. The people making these false claims know the truth, but are servants of Satan that have crept into the church. I am not speaking of those that were deceived by the lies they read, but those who put this stuff out. Do not be deceived.
So when they say the KJV Bible was corrected dozens of times, it was just mistakes made by the printers? Of course they have to know they are lying.
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Post by John on May 31, 2019 11:31:54 GMT -5
The ones putting that propaganda out on websites know better. Many read it and spread it through ignorance.
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Post by joseph on May 31, 2019 13:06:33 GMT -5
So when they say the KJV Bible was corrected dozens of times, it was just mistakes made by the printers? Of course they have to know they are lying. No, they often have no idea what is the truth vs what is false. The corrections when made rightly are good and proper , as it ought to be. The corrections left undone are the reason testing everything is still needed. As someone studies Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic, even without knowing any history, then compares / sees/ word studies that are accurate, vs the translations in English, including KJV, they learn that not everything is as it seems - some things that are or may be wrong/ inaccurate/ or at least need testing, are left and sometimes or often defended, instead of continually seeking the truth as needed. Yahuweh (God) is Absolutely and Totally TRUTHFUL and DEPENDABLE, and when HE Grants Understanding, it is TRUTH with no shadow. Men are not absolutely nor totally truthful nor dependable , so must be tested until proven true, as written. (the BEREANS being the most famous example probably).
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Post by John on May 31, 2019 13:12:48 GMT -5
It is not possible to test the original Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic today, because the original manuscripts are no longer in existence. What we have today are not the originals. I put far more confidence in the KJV Bible than the Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic that exists today. I would rather create translations from the Geneva and KJV Bible than use those manuscripts, that are in some places incomplete. They had the manuscripts that were in use and trusted by the church.
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Post by joseph on May 31, 2019 14:12:34 GMT -5
It is not possible to test the original Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic today, because the original manuscripts are no longer in existence. What we have today are not the originals. I put far more confidence in the KJV Bible than the Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic that exists today. I would rather create translations from the Geneva and KJV Bible than use those manuscripts, that are in some places incomplete.
They had the manuscripts that were in use and trusted by the church.
"in use and trusted" by what church ?
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Post by John on May 31, 2019 14:33:18 GMT -5
It is not possible to test the original Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic today, because the original manuscripts are no longer in existence. What we have today are not the originals. I put far more confidence in the KJV Bible than the Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic that exists today. I would rather create translations from the Geneva and KJV Bible than use those manuscripts, that are in some places incomplete.
They had the manuscripts that were in use and trusted by the church.
"in use and trusted" by what church ? The church at large. They were the known Bible. What we have today are portions of copies found in caves.
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Post by joseph on May 31, 2019 15:54:40 GMT -5
"in use and trusted" by what church ? The church at large. They were the known Bible. What we have today are portions of copies found in caves.
"The church at large" is (and was) mostly roman catholic (or controlled/dominated by them), and very very very much in error, deception, and killing those who follow Jesus. (still today, as through the centuries) ....
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Post by John on May 31, 2019 16:03:30 GMT -5
The church at large. They were the known Bible. What we have today are portions of copies found in caves.
"The church at large" is (and was) mostly roman catholic (or controlled/dominated by them), and very very very much in error, deception, and killing those who follow Jesus. (still today, as through the centuries) .... And yet, they had the true Bible in their possession.
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Post by joseph on May 31, 2019 16:39:21 GMT -5
"The church at large" is (and was) mostly roman catholic (or controlled/dominated by them), and very very very much in error, deception, and killing those who follow Jesus. (still today, as through the centuries) .... And yet, they had the true Bible in their possession.
IF they did, WHY didn't they obey Yahuweh ? (Why did they always oppose Him and teach traditions of man over TORAH ? ) IF they did, was it by human effort, man's strength, OR as written ? (Yahuweh always watched over and always guarded His Word) i.e. trust in men...... OR TRUST YAHUWEH (GOD) ?
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Post by John on May 31, 2019 16:46:38 GMT -5
And yet, they had the true Bible in their possession.
IF they did, WHY didn't they obey Yahuweh ? (Why did they always oppose Him and teach traditions of man over TORAH ? ) IF they did, was it by human effort, man's strength, OR as written ? (Yahuweh always watched over and always guarded His Word) i.e. trust in men...... OR TRUST YAHUWEH (GOD) ? They didn't obey it because they had an agenda to unify all religions. Still, God preserved His Word in our KJV Bible.
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Post by joseph on May 31, 2019 16:49:33 GMT -5
IF they did, WHY didn't they obey Yahuweh ? (Why did they always oppose Him and teach traditions of man over TORAH ? ) IF they did, was it by human effort, man's strength, OR as written ? (Yahuweh always watched over and always guarded His Word) i.e. trust in men...... OR TRUST YAHUWEH (GOD) ? They didn't obey it because they had an agenda to unify all religions. Still, God preserved His Word in our KJV Bible.
.... an agenda.... man's agenda ..... as written (foretold, prophesied) throughout Scripture, yes. Yes, as seen in the KJV. Is that still the same reason people do not obey TODAY ? "an agenda" (the same or other) ?
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Post by John on May 31, 2019 16:52:05 GMT -5
Absolutely NOT! The KJV Bible is the perfect Word of God in English.
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Post by joseph on May 31, 2019 17:00:29 GMT -5
Absolutely NOT! The KJV Bible is the perfect Word of God in English.
What ? "Absolutely NOT!" what ? I just agreed that the Word of God, the KJV, foretells, prophesies, man's "agenda" (man's rebellion, the counterfeit roman church, etc) ......
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Post by John on May 31, 2019 17:02:19 GMT -5
Absolutely NOT! The KJV Bible is the perfect Word of God in English.
What ? "Absolutely NOT!" what ? I just agreed that the Word of God, the KJV, foretells, prophesies, man's "agenda" (man's rebellion, the counterfeit roman church, etc) ...... I took you as saying it was corrupted through the RCC.
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