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Post by frienduff on Aug 28, 2019 12:25:01 GMT -5
Israel was cut down to a stump when the first temple was destroyed. The prophet spoke of a green sprig coming out of the stump of Jesse. Just because a mighty trees fallen doesn’t mean the stump is removed. The old removed and the new begins . And do notice same tree . A whole new convenant was coming . And they are not all Israel who are of Israel . The one common thing , Is that true Israel was always there . But it never once pertained to the flesh . And GOD was not pleased with the children of the flesh , IN ANY GENERATION . Whether a jew or a gentile , THE FLESH will never profit a single soul . YET MUST be born again . Ol frienduff has also declared war against the charlatons that praise the flesh of a jew , And yet they aint even REAL JEWS . The flesh profits nothing . A jew , one who is truly a jew , IS ONE BORN AGAIN IN JESUS . And flat out if that angers folks , THEN OH WELL . A jew is not even a jew if he or she walks after the flesh . OH they the natural jew , YES , but not the true jew. Me and haggee , we got issues . I DONT LIKE what that charlatan says . I don't like what most evangelicals are saying and believing about ALL JEWS . NO JESUS , NO JEW , NO JESUS , NO ETERNAL LIFE . THAT must be the all out focus now . Preaching JESUS to all that has breath and leaving none in any mindset that is contrary in any way TO THAT MINDSET . Paul , james , jude , peter , Have two things in common . THEY had all been born jewish , AND THEY ALL SAID , NO JESUS NO ETERNAL LIFE . Paul did more than most to shut down any kind of PRAISE IN THE FLESH of who is what . AND POINTED ONLY TO JESUS . WE must do the same . Get out of town hagge and nar , ITS TIME TO PROCLIAM THE TRUTH , that it matters not what one was born , WHAT MATTERS is , ARE THEY BORN AGAIN .
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Post by frienduff on Aug 28, 2019 12:28:39 GMT -5
And grown worse it has , now not only are all jews taught as saved or Daddys kids HECK they doing it with other religons too man . JUST KEEPS getting worse . LET me remind us what TORAH actually said FIRST TO THE JEWS . I work a work in your day , that if a man believes not , HE WILL SURELY PERISH . The WORK of GOD , IS TO BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST . And I have declared an all out war against the false ones who even try and suggest OTHERWISE .
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Post by frienduff on Aug 28, 2019 12:34:45 GMT -5
I say as I have long said , I shun the all inclusive works , right to the pits of hades from which it sprang . But lets remind of what JOHN once said , IF ANY man heeds not this gospel or brings another , DONT EVEN LET them in your house and don't even bid them god speed , FOR HE WHO DOES SO is A PARAKTER of their false gospel . JESUS ALONE will be sounded as the only savoir and JESUS is no minsitir of sin either . TAKE THAT to the infected churches who now do the will of Rome . Nail that on the doors of churches and on the DOOR of ROME HERSELF . The gospel will NOT be tolerated much longer . OH WELL . JESUS ALONE saved me , and THUS HE ALONE will be sounded as the ONLY MEANS one can have salvation . And just like he once said , IF THEY BELEIVE amen and if not they are damnned , WILL BE REMINDED . I care not for that all inclusive lets hug and get along lie . AND IT WILL BE EXPOSED and JESUS ALONE PROCLIAMED , no matter what the cost .
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Post by John on Aug 28, 2019 13:03:36 GMT -5
“And seeing a fig tree by the road,
He came to it and found nothing on it but leaves, and said to it,
“Let no fruit grow on you ever again.” Immediately the fig tree withered away.” - Matthew 21:19 And you may say: But He was speaking about trees, not people.Receive this revelation: “And he looked up and said,
“I see men like trees, walking.”” - Mark 8:24 Blessings to you in Jesus' name! Something a lot of folks miss . Also this , Do notice in one of the translations , IT EVEN SAYS for the time of the fruit was not yet . JESUS KNEW FULL WELL that the time of the fruit of that tree was not YET , YET CURSED IT anyway . THERE IS WAY MORE THAN MEETS the EYE on THIS PARABLE . BECAUSE HE KNEW the time of the fruit was NOT YET , and yet had cursed the tree . Its not about just some random fig tree , ITS WAY more than this . JESUS was saying SOMETHING . There was a meaning to this .
The obvious thing was Jesus was teaching a lesson about faith, and how that if you believe, you can do greater miracles than He did in cursing the fig tree. Could there have been a greater, hidden meaning? Absolutely, but I have never consider it so I don't know what it is.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2019 18:52:52 GMT -5
Rom 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
Gen 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
Gen 3:7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed FIG LEAVES together, and made themselves aprons.
Mat 21:21
Jesus answered and said unto them, Verily I say unto you, If ye have faith, and doubt not, ye shall not only do this which is done to the fig tree, but also if ye shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; it shall be done.
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Post by John on Aug 28, 2019 19:00:30 GMT -5
Rom 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. Gen 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. Gen 3:7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed FIG LEAVES together, and made themselves aprons. Mat 21:21 Jesus answered and said unto them, Verily I say unto you, If ye have faith, and doubt not, ye shall not only do this which is done to the fig tree, but also if ye shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; it shall be done.
Those are good scriptures, but how do you see them applying to the parable?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2019 6:02:43 GMT -5
Rom 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. Gen 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. Gen 3:7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed FIG LEAVES together, and made themselves aprons. Mat 21:21 Jesus answered and said unto them, Verily I say unto you, If ye have faith, and doubt not, ye shall not only do this which is done to the fig tree, but also if ye shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; it shall be done.
Those are good scriptures, but how do you see them applying to the parable? It's quite deep brother, but for one thing it tells us what kind of tree the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil was. And here is another scripture that ties in: Rom 7:9
For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
Ties in with this verse already posted: Gen 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
Remembering also that the serpent/devil is the accuser of the brethren, and helps us understand this passage: Rom 2:14-15 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another (knowledge of good and evil) Heb 10:2 For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience (knowledge) of sins.
Oh thanks be to God, praise you Jesus.....through Christ we go back to the state of ‘innocence’ that Adam & Eve enjoyed before they ate the fruit of that wretched Tree. No more knowledge of our nakedness even though all things are ‘naked’ to Him who made us. The new covenant is far superior to the Law. The Law only gives us knowledge of good and evil....which kills us. Heb 4:13 Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.
Oh praise the Living God for His unspeakable goodness and mercy.....and no wonder Jesus cursed that fig tree!
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Post by John on Aug 29, 2019 6:30:11 GMT -5
Thanks Watchful. I was just trying to understand how you were connecting them to the parable.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2019 6:54:33 GMT -5
Thanks Watchful. I was just trying to understand how you were connecting them to the parable.
It was quite a mouthful there, more than what you were asking really, praise the Lord. Bless you brother.
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Post by justinadams on Aug 30, 2019 9:04:39 GMT -5
Thanks Watchful. I was just trying to understand how you were connecting them to the parable.
It was quite a mouthful there, more than what you were asking really, praise the Lord. Bless you brother. I see that Yeshua had a long association with fig leaves. When they heard Him walking in the garden it was Him. He also made the animal skin covering for them. He is very evident in the Tanach as the second person of the Godhead. He appears of in His man-like form. He also appears with Yahweh often and the dialog is most interesting.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2019 12:22:21 GMT -5
It was quite a mouthful there, more than what you were asking really, praise the Lord. Bless you brother. I see that Yeshua had a long association with fig leaves. When they heard Him walking in the garden it was Him. He also made the animal skin covering for them. He is very evident in the Tanach as the second person of the Godhead. He appears of in His man-like form. He also appears with Yahweh often and the dialog is most interesting. Amen..... Mic 5:2
But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.
This is clearly talking about Christ, the Son of God. Since God is spirit I was wondering how it is He could speak and say something like "Let there be light" etc....except through the Word, His Son...? Just wondering. Praise the Lord, He is so good.
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Post by justinadams on Aug 30, 2019 12:58:19 GMT -5
I see that Yeshua had a long association with fig leaves. When they heard Him walking in the garden it was Him. He also made the animal skin covering for them. He is very evident in the Tanach as the second person of the Godhead. He appears of in His man-like form. He also appears with Yahweh often and the dialog is most interesting. Amen..... Mic 5:2
But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.
This is clearly talking about Christ, the Son of God. Since God is spirit I was wondering how it is He could speak and say something like "Let there be light" etc....except through the Word, His Son...? Just wondering. Praise the Lord, He is so good. I am pretty certain you are correct. Often Yeshua leaves, but God still talks, like the Gideon passage. Then there is the Jeremiah 1 where God is speaking...then The Word puts forth his hand and touched him on the lips imparting wisdom etc..
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2019 16:29:14 GMT -5
Amen..... Mic 5:2
But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.
This is clearly talking about Christ, the Son of God. Since God is spirit I was wondering how it is He could speak and say something like "Let there be light" etc....except through the Word, His Son...? Just wondering. Praise the Lord, He is so good. I am pretty certain you are correct. Often Yeshua leaves, but God still talks, like the Gideon passage. Then there is the Jeremiah 1 where God is speaking...then The Word puts forth his hand and touched him on the lips imparting wisdom etc.. Oh amen! Bless you Justin.
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Post by 777 on Sept 10, 2019 23:00:18 GMT -5
A certain man had a fig tree planted in his vineyard; and he came and sought fruit thereon, and found none. Then said he unto the dresser of the vineyard, Behold, these three years I come seeking fruit on this fig tree, and find none: cut it down, why cumbereth it the ground? And he answering said unto him, Lord, let it alone this year also, till I shall dig about it, and dung it: And if it bear fruit, well: and if not, then after that thou shalt cut it down. I am not sure, but maybe the owner of the vineyard was the Jesus? The dresser of the vineyard could have been an intercessor? It could also be that the owner of the vineyard was the Father and the dresser of the vineyard was Jesus, and he did the interceding? I need to put some more thought into this. Regardless, we see that if the tree doesn't bear fruit, it will be cut down. That is the main point.
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