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Post by John on May 23, 2018 17:50:36 GMT -5
With all the violence we have been having in the public schools of late, I started thinking about what could be done to put a stop to it. When you have a single place like that full of children, they are easy targets for some deranged lunatic or terrorist. With the technology we have today, why not just have all public school online? There are already places that offer this service. Not only does this stop placing all those children in one place where they are sitting ducks, but it would save a ton of money. Even if the state had to pay for computers for low income families and their Wi-Fi, when you consider how much money they claim it costs to educate one child each year, that would still amount to a huge savings. You would only need one teacher per class for the entire state. You wouldn't have the overhead of school buildings, and you would do away with all the fuel wasting school buses and the drivers. The parents could monitor what the children are being taught, because they could monitor what was on the computer.
What are your thoughts? Do you think this is something that could work, or are there hidden problems? The only obstacle I can think of for now is the fact many parents use the schools as a type of daycare, so this would force them to actually parent during the day.
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Post by PG4Him on May 23, 2018 18:48:38 GMT -5
The public school model was invented by the Prussian government in the 1800s to conform boys into soldiers. True story. American bureaucrats traveled to Prussia to copy the model. It's all designed to put children on a rigorous schedule, train them away from home, get them used to spending long hours in a prison setting, and indoctrinate them to believe whatever the government says. Studies have shown over and over that the public school model is bad for children. Their brain activity is not made to be active at 7:00 am. It's beyond absurd to make them do complex algebra when they're half asleep before dawn. It's physically detrimental to keep them sitting for long hours in what amounts to a holding cell. It's academically stupid to put 50 children in a room going through the same material at the same pace. It's condescending to have less-intelligent teachers feed them information from the same books they could read for themselves. Public schools induce unnecessary amounts of bullying (no adult encounters that much bullying in the workplace), spread infectious germs, keep nervous/tired children away from home for long hours, and expose children to pornography/drugs/godlessness they will not encounter as adults. In short, it does nothing to prepare them for real adult life, while it damages them in serious ways. This is why suicide is the number one cause of death for young teenagers... q13fox.com/2018/03/26/cdc-teen-suicide-rates-increase-dramatically-in-last-decade/Despite many efforts to change this system, it hasn't changed because of parents. Most homes these days have every adult in the house out working. No one has time to stay home with kids. Every effort to suggest a change in public school hits this brick wall. What you're suggesting is very similar to how it was the old days. For centuries on end, children learned at home with no set schedule, taking breaks to play as they wanted. The emphasis was on them reading material themselves instead of being spoon-fed. Wealthy families usually had a governess to help with tutoring. The so-called "women's liberation" movement was designed to get women out of the house so the kids would be gone too. This was indeed by design.
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Post by John on May 28, 2018 12:19:50 GMT -5
I appreciate that PG4Him. I wasn't aware of the model for the public schools, but it is obvious the system doesn't work well and it needs to be replaced. The parents need to have a greater role in educating their kids. Home schooling, combined with Bible study and keeping an eye on what their kids are exposed to in the way of television and video games would make a huge difference in our society.
I grew up with violence on tv, but there is something I have noticed that has changed in what kids are exposed to. A lot of the video games and movies make you sympathetic to and even cheering for murderers and rapists. In video games, you can be the bad guy. Parents don't know what kids are taught and exposed to day in and day out. They just see the bad results.
You mentioned bullying. So many people are suffering mental problems and eating disorders because of bullying, and as you mentioned, many commit suicide. More than ever, parents need to be in control of raising their own children, including educating them.
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Post by ladypeartree on Jun 1, 2018 5:48:51 GMT -5
Lots of parents home school here and even get together in groups to share expertise BUT it relies on a commitment from the parents and discipline at home to keep a child on track not losing out as parent and or child prefers to stay in bed/watch tv/go shopping ( although this can be used in an educational way ) / give in to children's whims ... One of my daughters is a stay at home mum but although she is university educated she would not be able to be organised enough to home school whilst another daughter who works full time and didn't go to uni is far more suited to do so and would make a very good job of it. What of the children who have parents who are illiterate ? Those who find the only escape from an abusive parent is during a school day Or those who live in very undesirable places that may not get any peace to work during the day with loud and abusive neighbours ? As a teacher for many years I found a lot wrong with the education system here in the Uk ( and it is better than the one in the USA with smaller class sizes and not such a prescriptive curriculum ) when I could help small home schooling groups I did ( including setting up curriculums for missionary families about to go abroad to work ) but even in the best home schooled situation children can lack things such as social development /team games/he chance to act/play in an orchestra/find ways to interact with people from different backgrounds etc The way your system is set up is a throw back to when children had to help in agricultural production and needed to start early in order to finish in time to help with the chores on a farm etc and them became a production line rather than an education ...all taught " to the end exam " rather than to encourage learning and so is perfect for those with an agenda to indoctrinate your youth !!!so sad
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Post by Abby-Joy on Jun 1, 2018 18:06:34 GMT -5
The public school model was invented by the Prussian government in the 1800s to conform boys into soldiers. True story. American bureaucrats traveled to Prussia to copy the model. It's all designed to put children on a rigorous schedule, train them away from home, get them used to spending long hours in a prison setting, and indoctrinate them to believe whatever the government says. Studies have shown over and over that the public school model is bad for children. Their brain activity is not made to be active at 7:00 am. It's beyond absurd to make them do complex algebra when they're half asleep before dawn. It's physically detrimental to keep them sitting for long hours in what amounts to a holding cell. It's academically stupid to put 50 children in a room going through the same material at the same pace. It's condescending to have less-intelligent teachers feed them information from the same books they could read for themselves. Public schools induce unnecessary amounts of bullying (no adult encounters that much bullying in the workplace), spread infectious germs, keep nervous/tired children away from home for long hours, and expose children to pornography/drugs/godlessness they will not encounter as adults. In short, it does nothing to prepare them for real adult life, while it damages them in serious ways. This is why suicide is the number one cause of death for young teenagers... q13fox.com/2018/03/26/cdc-teen-suicide-rates-increase-dramatically-in-last-decade/Despite many efforts to change this system, it hasn't changed because of parents. Most homes these days have every adult in the house out working. No one has time to stay home with kids. Every effort to suggest a change in public school hits this brick wall. What you're suggesting is very similar to how it was the old days. For centuries on end, children learned at home with no set schedule, taking breaks to play as they wanted. The emphasis was on them reading material themselves instead of being spoon-fed. Wealthy families usually had a governess to help with tutoring. The so-called "women's liberation" movement was designed to get women out of the house so the kids would be gone too. This was indeed by design. This is exactly what my oldest son Mark has expressed to me. The kid (he is actually a young man at age 21) is brilliant, and yet he nearly failed every year he was in public school He absolutely HATED it!! He would skim by until test time and ace the tests, lol ... just so he could pass and get out of there. He graduated, but has been self-educated for the most part. (His earlier years, he was in parochial school, and then homeschooled before going into public school for a few years.) He loves history, geography, and statistics... is talented in art. He's expressed to me how education should be and it is very much as you stated above and how that public school system has failed children for generations, holding creativity and individualism back and suppressing the passion for learning.
What I love is the "unschooling" model, which isn't like school at all. You just tailor each child's learning around things they love and allow them to read and research things out on their own. Learning is a lifestyle and should be year-round... taking breaks when needed is no huge deal when there are not just 9 months to cram everything in. Remember when you were in school, going back to the classroom after 3 months off? Teachers spend the first 2 weeks or more just getting kids back into the groove, and many times, trying to regain lost ground.
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Post by Cletus on Jun 2, 2018 16:08:28 GMT -5
the plan will work in most cases. but not all. there are some places where internet is not really available. And some places where its available its very spotty and slow. Also, some families both parents, or the only parent has to work so there is no one to watch the children. for many children they get free/discounted lunches and this could mean one less meal a day for a lot of children. in some cases breakfast too, so two meals a day less.
I have said this many times before and while its not really on topic it grazes topic. there is a law that already exists that states if you have a minor or a mentally ill person in your home, you must lock up your firearms. in all the school shootings i have read about the children doing the shooting had easy access to a firearm that was not secured by their parental figures. now they do not enforce this law. why? the issue is not about keeping kids safe. its not as they say about firearm restrictions and control. if it was they would enforce this law. If they would enforce this law and put it on the news they arrested the owner of the shotgun who happened to be the dad of the last school shooting in texas, you would see coast to coast gun shops selling out of gun safes. no one wants to go to jail. the real issue is the left wants change. this change is a false security and a false peace, just as the bible speaks about. the far left and those who do not know the truth wants to remove ALL guns, no matter what the 2018 assault weapons ban says, which will be voted on soon. their plan is to do this incrementally. and the method being used to accomplish this right now is double speak, even by trump and the nra. this is not only an attack on the 2nd amendment, but on the 4th amendment as well. when the second amendment is gone resistance is futile. all the rights will go away. all the amendments. why is this pertinent? because the enemy knows his time is short. there is a lot more on the table here than keeping our schools safe. its all a cover to bring about the agenda to usher in a one world government. one where there is no peace, no liberty. only slavery to the devil, or death. i am not trying to hijack the thread here, but this is what i see. the powers that be do not care about our children's safety, some do, but there is a bigger picture. and the method they adhere to is order out of chaos. there is more going on than just safety in schools. But the school safety is a card in the deck to bring about this agenda.
I think if someone has the means to pull their children from public schools they should. schools curriculums these days are geared to aptitude tests. higher passing rates within a school equates to more money. not education to prepare children for the future. besides all that they used to do permission slips for teaching evolution. now its mandatory. no choice or alternate material is given. schools are an institute run by government. The whole system needs to be overhauled. but by what, more government? that has not worked so well for the people for awhile now.
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