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Post by Giller on Aug 2, 2021 13:54:01 GMT -5
No doubt in my mind that a big part of the problem is that the church doesn't see Satan as being defeated, disarmed and bound, and Jesus Christ as reigning. We have been sitting around waiting for some la-la escapist future to escape tribulations instead of battling the devil in the name of Christ from a place of present victory....we've been taught a waiting around mentality of a future reign instead of recognizing by faith that His rule and reign on earth is now and that all power and authority was already given to Him and is His now. That is why Jesus said we need to work while it is still day, night is coming as far as this world is concerned, when no man can work. Who said this , be diligent , for your adversary , the devil , ROAMS about devouring ......... Was that man doubting in the power of Christ . I trow not . Satan is not bound at all right now . The apostels knew it . Fact He is and his leaders even within christedom are fleecing the flocks and filling the places full of doctrine so nasty it resembles puke , dung and a combo of rotted cheese . WHO is doing all the deception . satan as his peoples are . Satan is not yet bound for no thousand years . And while HE is bound , the beast and the FP are roasting alive in a lake of fire . SO WHO ON earth is doing all this deceiving . SATAN IS . And the LORD shall bruise satan under your feet SHORTLY . THAT GONNA HAPPEN ON JESUS DAY . I know what brother Frienduf is referring to, he is not saying that the power of the devil has not been broken at the cross, for it has, and anyone who accepts what Christ did at the cross, has the opportunity to walk in the victory of the cross, but rather Satan even though his power over men has been broken at the cross, upon men receiving salvation, even though that is so, he is still roaming around seeking whom he may devourer, so in that sense, Satan is not bound. But one day he will be bound, and one scripture to focus on, is this Watchful: 1Co 15:25-26 (25) For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. (26) The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. When shall death be destroyed? Rev 20:14 (14) And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. This event has not taken place yet.
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Post by frienduff on Aug 2, 2021 14:15:11 GMT -5
Who said this , be diligent , for your adversary , the devil , ROAMS about devouring ......... Was that man doubting in the power of Christ . I trow not . Satan is not bound at all right now . The apostels knew it . Fact He is and his leaders even within christedom are fleecing the flocks and filling the places full of doctrine so nasty it resembles puke , dung and a combo of rotted cheese . WHO is doing all the deception . satan as his peoples are . Satan is not yet bound for no thousand years . And while HE is bound , the beast and the FP are roasting alive in a lake of fire . SO WHO ON earth is doing all this deceiving . SATAN IS . And the LORD shall bruise satan under your feet SHORTLY . THAT GONNA HAPPEN ON JESUS DAY . He is bound all right....disarmed at the cross and fell like lightning to the earth. Psa 91:13 Thou shalt tread upon the lion and adder: the young lion and the dragon shalt thou trample under feet.
Luk 10:17-20 And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name. And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.
Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you. Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven. Mat 28:18-20 And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “ All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. “ Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, “teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen. Mat 16:18-19 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
Rev 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! Col 2:15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he (Jesus) made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it. Rom 8:36-39 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter. Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us. For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. Booted out of heaven . But woe unto the earth . Paul even said , JESUS WILL trample satan under your feet SHORTLY . THEY KNEW that was about JESUS COMING . TILL THEN SATAN ISGONNA reap havoc on this earth .
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Post by frienduff on Aug 2, 2021 14:21:06 GMT -5
Who said this , be diligent , for your adversary , the devil , ROAMS about devouring ......... Was that man doubting in the power of Christ . I trow not . Satan is not bound at all right now . The apostels knew it . Fact He is and his leaders even within christedom are fleecing the flocks and filling the places full of doctrine so nasty it resembles puke , dung and a combo of rotted cheese . WHO is doing all the deception . satan as his peoples are . Satan is not yet bound for no thousand years . And while HE is bound , the beast and the FP are roasting alive in a lake of fire . SO WHO ON earth is doing all this deceiving . SATAN IS . And the LORD shall bruise satan under your feet SHORTLY . THAT GONNA HAPPEN ON JESUS DAY . I know what brother Frienduf is referring to, he is not saying that the power of the devil has not been broken at the cross, for it has, and anyone who accepts what Christ did at the cross, has the opportunity to walk in the victory of the cross, but rather Satan even though his power over men has been broken at the cross, upon men receiving salvation, even though that is so, he is still roaming around seeking whom he may devourer, so in that sense, Satan is not bound. But one day he will be bound, and one scripture to focus on, is this Watchful: 1Co 15:25-26 (25) For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. (26) The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. When shall death be destroyed? Rev 20:14 (14) And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. This event has not taken place yet. exactly giller . This is exactly what i meant . EVEN paul , who knew in Christ we had the power to resist and overcome the lies of satan , SAID THIS , THE LORD shall tread satan under your feet SHORTLY . SHORTLY . YEAH , AT HIS COMING . TILL THEN ARMOUR UP , satan is roaming like a wild lion and is taking captive many souls . ONE day , for a thousand years there will be no more decieving . Not from satan , not from the fp or the beast . JESUS is gonna cast both the FP and the beast into a lake of fire and bound satan for a thousand years , that he too will no longer be able to decieve . NOW at the end of the thousand years , HE will be released . BUT NOT THE FP NOR THE BEAST , they still roasting alive in a lake of fire and satan will then decieve , BUT TAKE NOTE , he convinces many at that time to come against the city of GOD . BUT NOT ONE SOUL of the LORDS will die . GOD DESTROYES ALL WHO COME AGAINST THE CITY at that time . The beast and the FP are not in a lake of fire right now , NOR IS SATAN BOUND so he cant decieve the nations . NO THIS IS FUTURE . ITS FUTURE . The thousand years is real . AND ITS FUTURE . A Time is coming , a time we dont fully understand , but when there we will understand . IT comes during the real thousand years . WHICH ARE YET TO HAPPEN . BUT ONE DAY WILL .
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Post by joseph on Aug 3, 2021 11:21:19 GMT -5
Where, then , can anyone go to receive healing ? I have never seen healing nor salvation accomplished via the internet. Only once in a while a location discovered where someone can go to be healed, and if true, if they go, they are healed.
The names and places of healing that are still active, ought NOT to be printed here though - anyone healing today is the target of public and private, religious and political and medical and social attack, no matter where they are, if it becomes publicly known.
The enemy within the USA has gone to extreme lengths to stop everyone from finding out, to stop anyone from learning where or how to heal, in faith and in natural daily life. The enemy from the usa has gone to other countries, even to countries without extradition, to arrest and bring back natural healers to the usa for prosecution even if no laws were broken - only that people were healed frequently.
It took us , my family, about 7 years to find the healing available in the usa, although for a couple months, one well known in the assembly in north st. louis , saved my later-to-be wife's life from what six expert professional licensed ama doctors and specialists called "90 days to live terminal cancer" (she said). For weeks I carried her before we were told of this honest doctor, one who from 1962 when he was healed of cancer easily in two weeks in mexico, until around 1995 when he passed peacefully in his sleep a ripe old age after a life that helped many, he healed everyone who came to him. With no advertising. No coupons. No government approval or assistance. An enemy of pharmacy. An enemy of ama. God protected him perfectly for decades, right there in Ferguson, North County St.Louis, Missouri.
It took a long time to find another honest doctor(s). In the meantime, we were subject to common malpractice by AMA pharmacy controlled clinics or doctors, who provided symptomatic relief only, often making patients worse quickly instead of healing.
So keep correspondence of the healers , faith or natural or both, confidential/private , not public. As God Permits.
It is still a problem HOW to help someone find , when it ought to be, wouldn't you think, well known in the assembly ? !
Praise the Lord for your wife's healing. And for your persistence. I wish I knew the answer to that question. There was a time when medicine and pharmacy was a kind of ministry to the sick, and people went into those fields for philanthropic reasons for the most part, but it has all been increasingly taken over by greed. Jesus was so right that love of money is the root of ALL EVIL (hence the sabbath rest of ceasing work/business on that day).....I have seen a huge change in my lifetime of greed increasing and taking over in every sphere, unless i'm just less naive than I used to be. Realize or start to find out that pharmacy is not something that ever contributed to truth nor to health nor to helping people. See that it is called by God witchcraft and sorcery (I think 7 specific times in the Bible; and always since then) .
Yes, before 1960 there were more doctors who went into medicine to help people. They had a heart to help people, and did not realize the devil already owned their school(s) lock stock and barrel.
I'm wondering a little now, how did love of money , being the root of all evil, lead to changing Yahweh's Seventh Day Sanctified to the 1st day of the week? This is an astonishing thing to learn for those who grew up being taught by everyone they knew , family and church and more, those errors that started in babylon before Jesus was born, and were incorporated into the antichrist organization by constantine and his evil co-workers of satan.
To the modern church from God "6 Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump?
7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:
8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.
9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:
10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world.
11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolator, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.
12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.
King James Bible Public Domain
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Post by Tabitha3319 on Aug 4, 2021 18:54:57 GMT -5
I am reading up on socialism and its history as well as the impact it has had today. I have to say I agree with capitalism more and more the more I read, not because it is perfect, but because it guards against authoritarian tyranny by the government.
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Post by Tabitha3319 on Aug 4, 2021 21:45:20 GMT -5
My husband and I were talking about a lot of discouraging in this world.
I started to encourage him by repeating Jesus's words.
I talked of how Jesus has overcome the world, how we must spread truth and love people until He returns, how we're His hands and feet, how we can't let our love grow cold, how wete to fix our eyes on Jesus, and even if they kill us, we gain heaven.
Then I felt the Holy Spirit and it was like such joy and courage filled my heart, I felt boldness like I could speak the gospel even knowing Id be killed for it.
God does not want us to be discouraged, but to be busy doing His work and making disciples. We have victory over death and the grave. We have all hope in Jesus Christ, no matter how bad the world gets.
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Post by watchful on Aug 5, 2021 10:26:37 GMT -5
He is bound all right....disarmed at the cross and fell like lightning to the earth. Psa 91:13 Thou shalt tread upon the lion and adder: the young lion and the dragon shalt thou trample under feet.
Luk 10:17-20 And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name. And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.
Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you. Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven. Mat 28:18-20 And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “ All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. “ Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, “teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen. Mat 16:18-19 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
Rev 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! Col 2:15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he (Jesus) made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it. Rom 8:36-39 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter. Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us. For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. Booted out of heaven . But woe unto the earth . Paul even said , JESUS WILL trample satan under your feet SHORTLY . THEY KNEW that was about JESUS COMING . TILL THEN SATAN ISGONNA reap havoc on this earth . It's astonishing how some can't see the rule and reign of Christ in those scriptures. And so MANY scriptures do speak of it....the sceptre (all authority and all power) was given to Jesus by the Father. His rule is forever and ever....of His kingdom is NO end. The "thousand years" is just euphemistically speaking of the time limited church age. When I take our dog for her walks.....I allow her a lot of latitude and freedom to do what she wants at times, to stop and smell things, to track scents, to roll in the grass, to go greet other dogs and owners, etc and at such times I just follow where she is going.....I'm sure she sometimes might assume I must have let go of the leash or have abdicated being in charge. But not so, when I've had enough of dawdling around or if she tries to go on the road, or tries to greet someone who doesn't seem they would be amenable to that, I pull on the leash and urge her on in the direction I want her to go in. I'm still in charge and ruling the dog even when it doesn't seem so. She can only do what she wants when I allow it and because I allow it. We always end up where I want us to be.
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Post by Tabitha3319 on Aug 5, 2021 12:53:16 GMT -5
Booted out of heaven . But woe unto the earth . Paul even said , JESUS WILL trample satan under your feet SHORTLY . THEY KNEW that was about JESUS COMING . TILL THEN SATAN ISGONNA reap havoc on this earth . It's astonishing how some can't see the rule and reign of Christ in those scriptures. And so MANY scriptures do speak of it....the sceptre (all authority and all power) was given to Jesus by the Father. His rule is forever and ever....of His kingdom is NO end. The "thousand years" is just euphemistically speaking of the time limited church age. When I take our dog for her walks.....I allow her a lot of latitude and freedom to do what she wants at times, to stop and smell things, to track scents, to roll in the grass, to go greet other dogs and owners, etc and at such times I just follow where she is going.....I'm sure she sometimes might assume I must have let go of the leash or have abdicated being in charge. But not so, when I've had enough of dawdling around or if she tries to go on the road, or tries to greet someone who doesn't seem they would be amenable to that, I pull on the leash and urge her on in the direction I want her to go in. I'm still in charge and ruling the dog even when it doesn't seem so. She can only do what she wants when I allow it and because I allow it. We always end up where I want us to be. I don't agree. Im not seeing how the thousand year reign of Christ on the earth is just a euphimism.
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Post by watchful on Aug 5, 2021 14:00:27 GMT -5
It's astonishing how some can't see the rule and reign of Christ in those scriptures. And so MANY scriptures do speak of it....the sceptre (all authority and all power) was given to Jesus by the Father. His rule is forever and ever....of His kingdom is NO end. The "thousand years" is just euphemistically speaking of the time limited church age. When I take our dog for her walks.....I allow her a lot of latitude and freedom to do what she wants at times, to stop and smell things, to track scents, to roll in the grass, to go greet other dogs and owners, etc and at such times I just follow where she is going.....I'm sure she sometimes might assume I must have let go of the leash or have abdicated being in charge. But not so, when I've had enough of dawdling around or if she tries to go on the road, or tries to greet someone who doesn't seem they would be amenable to that, I pull on the leash and urge her on in the direction I want her to go in. I'm still in charge and ruling the dog even when it doesn't seem so. She can only do what she wants when I allow it and because I allow it. We always end up where I want us to be. I don't agree. Im not seeing how the thousand year reign of Christ on the earth is just a euphimism. His reign is not. But the language used to describe it in Revelation is. Using allegorical/euphemistic/prophetic language. The thousand years is an understatement, alluding indirectly to the length of time it actually is...which so far is more than two thousand years since Jesus ascended to the right hand of God and sat down on His throne to rule and reign. Heb 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
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Post by Tabitha3319 on Aug 5, 2021 15:42:02 GMT -5
I am taking a week long hiatus from forums and social media to evaluate time management and prioritizing God.
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Post by John on Aug 5, 2021 16:10:50 GMT -5
I am taking a week long hiatus from forums and social media to evaluate time management and prioritizing God. I understand. You will be missed during that week, but by all means, seek the Lord. I have to work on some kind of schedule to get organized so I can keep up with the different ministries I am attempting to do. I am still planning to get back to making YouTube videos, but have not had the time. I have about gotten the radio station to a place where I can spend more time on other things, but I still have some work to do with the scheduler.
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Post by John on Aug 5, 2021 16:16:56 GMT -5
Booted out of heaven . But woe unto the earth . Paul even said , JESUS WILL trample satan under your feet SHORTLY . THEY KNEW that was about JESUS COMING . TILL THEN SATAN ISGONNA reap havoc on this earth . It's astonishing how some can't see the rule and reign of Christ in those scriptures. And so MANY scriptures do speak of it....the sceptre (all authority and all power) was given to Jesus by the Father. His rule is forever and ever....of His kingdom is NO end. The "thousand years" is just euphemistically speaking of the time limited church age. When I take our dog for her walks.....I allow her a lot of latitude and freedom to do what she wants at times, to stop and smell things, to track scents, to roll in the grass, to go greet other dogs and owners, etc and at such times I just follow where she is going.....I'm sure she sometimes might assume I must have let go of the leash or have abdicated being in charge. But not so, when I've had enough of dawdling around or if she tries to go on the road, or tries to greet someone who doesn't seem they would be amenable to that, I pull on the leash and urge her on in the direction I want her to go in. I'm still in charge and ruling the dog even when it doesn't seem so. She can only do what she wants when I allow it and because I allow it. We always end up where I want us to be. We do not see what you are saying because it is not true. I do not know where you are getting this teaching from, but it is false. When Jesus comes to rule and reign during that 1000 years, people will not be free to do as they please. He will rule with a rod of iron. Sin will not be tolerated. The devil will be locked up, not just subject to people of faith using their Christ delegated authority over him.
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Post by joseph on Aug 6, 2021 5:18:34 GMT -5
If people don't get well, who gets blamed ? If as in Corinth "many are sick and dying" for their disobedience/ not recognizing the body properly , as written in Corinthians, who makes the needed corrections so people don't get sick more and die needlessly ? No doubt in my mind that a big part of the problem is that the church doesn't see Satan as being defeated, He is not defeated in the world, in most churches, in billions of lives - they are all subject to the prince of the power of the air.
So for those who do not see him defeated, they may see accurately , sadly, that he is not defeated in their own church and their own lives.
Even in our own lives, abiding in Christ Jesus today, doing the work of the Father, it is a daily battle with the enemy and with the flesh.
A false church/babylon deceives billions, and claims he is defeated, and says it is okay to sin, and to keep repeat sinning, then pay $100.00 to be forgiven.
King James Bible And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
King James Bible Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
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Post by watchful on Aug 6, 2021 6:10:40 GMT -5
No doubt in my mind that a big part of the problem is that the church doesn't see Satan as being defeated, He is not defeated in the world, in most churches, in billions of lives - they are all subject to the prince of the power of the air.
So for those who do not see him defeated, they may see accurately , sadly, that he is not defeated in their own church and their own lives.
Even in our own lives, abiding in Christ Jesus today, doing the work of the Father, it is a daily battle with the enemy and with the flesh.
A false church/babylon deceives billions, and claims he is defeated, and says it is okay to sin, and to keep repeat sinning, then pay $100.00 to be forgiven.
King James Bible And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
King James Bible Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
Yes, I agree with what you're saying, but the devil is restrained/bound and can only do what he is allowed by Jesus to do. We are still being tested and tried as well as chastised in this life.
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Post by watchful on Aug 6, 2021 6:18:36 GMT -5
It's astonishing how some can't see the rule and reign of Christ in those scriptures. And so MANY scriptures do speak of it....the sceptre (all authority and all power) was given to Jesus by the Father. His rule is forever and ever....of His kingdom is NO end. The "thousand years" is just euphemistically speaking of the time limited church age. When I take our dog for her walks.....I allow her a lot of latitude and freedom to do what she wants at times, to stop and smell things, to track scents, to roll in the grass, to go greet other dogs and owners, etc and at such times I just follow where she is going.....I'm sure she sometimes might assume I must have let go of the leash or have abdicated being in charge. But not so, when I've had enough of dawdling around or if she tries to go on the road, or tries to greet someone who doesn't seem they would be amenable to that, I pull on the leash and urge her on in the direction I want her to go in. I'm still in charge and ruling the dog even when it doesn't seem so. She can only do what she wants when I allow it and because I allow it. We always end up where I want us to be. We do not see what you are saying because it is not true. I do not know where you are getting this teaching from, but it is false. When Jesus comes to rule and reign during that 1000 years, people will not be free to do as they please. He will rule with a rod of iron. Sin will not be tolerated. The devil will be locked up, not just subject to people of faith using their Christ delegated authority over him.
Brother, I don't know what nations will be left alive that Jesus is allegedly going to rule over in the future once He has ruled them in the sense of JUDGING them all and pouring out His wrath upon them. There are just so many contradictions of all other scriptures, with this belief of a future thousand years. We need to just take a step back and re-examine it honestly. It doesn't make sense...doesn't add up.
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