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Post by frienduff on Jun 2, 2018 14:49:44 GMT -5
My heart is heavy , so heavy for the people . Osas preachers and other false doctrine has lulled folks right to sleep. Butero even encountered this I am a sinner , we all sinners , we do evil , we wicked and they just justify , justify , justify and feel saved caused they said a prayer one time. Today I was serioiusly describing the actions of a murderer and was told DONT JUDGE too harshely , we all have the fallen nature of adam, no one is perfect and how this person sins . IF that is the JESUS they sit under they have major problems . NO POWER n the blood , no overcomers by faith , just empty faith that is not real. I mean A murderer was defended under the banner of we all sinners , and I was come after as being evil for exposing this mans murder and evil . Folks , its getting worse . SO, I am just going to say it like it is . Like paul did . BUT if while we seek to be justified by Faith , IF we ourselves are FOUND SINNERS IS CHRIST therefore the minister of sin . GOD FORGID , if we build again those things which once we destroyed , THEN we MAKE ourselves trangressors. OR as james said we are convinced of the law as transgressors . PS, that don't sound good . IF folks can think men who can kill in JESUS name are saved , and that we need to not warn out against that type of evil. Watch , when this all inclusive gains the hearts and minds , then when the roundup starts , THEY Will see their god and gods as doing GODS WILL when we are killed under the largest one world state church mindset ecumenical REIGN . I mean this is just complete delusion now I am seeing . As though I can holler the name of JESUS and live in sin and am saved . what a lie . This is how the churches will even more buy the lie that active gays are still saved , if they believe in JESUS . I mean hey they say WE all sin and sinners RIGHT . IF folks cannot see where this is leading , oh dear they doomed . they truly doomed . We must exhort more than ever and contend more than ever for the true faith that was deleiverd unto the TRUE SAINTS at the FIRST . Dig in those bibles , learn that pattern so deep that if any had to get a chest xray the radiologiset would be like ........oh my does that say John three sixteen on his heart . YEAH DIG IN DEEP .
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Post by tlsitd on Jun 2, 2018 16:44:47 GMT -5
My heart is heavy , so heavy for the people . Osas preachers and other false doctrine has lulled folks right to sleep. Butero even encountered this I am a sinner , we all sinners , we do evil , we wicked and they just justify , justify , justify and feel saved caused they said a prayer one time. Today I was serioiusly describing the actions of a murderer and was told DONT JUDGE too harshely , we all have the fallen nature of adam, no one is perfect and how this person sins . IF that is the JESUS they sit under they have major problems . NO POWER n the blood , no overcomers by faith , just empty faith that is not real. I mean A murderer was defended under the banner of we all sinners , and I was come after as being evil for exposing this mans murder and evil . Folks , its getting worse . SO, I am just going to say it like it is . Like paul did . BUT if while we seek to be justified by Faith , IF we ourselves are FOUND SINNERS IS CHRIST therefore the minister of sin . GOD FORGID , if we build again those things which once we destroyed , THEN we MAKE ourselves trangressors. OR as james said we are convinced of the law as transgressors . PS, that don't sound good . IF folks can think men who can kill in JESUS name are saved , and that we need to not warn out against that type of evil. Watch , when this all inclusive gains the hearts and minds , then when the roundup starts , THEY Will see their god and gods as doing GODS WILL when we are killed under the largest one world state church mindset ecumenical REIGN . I mean this is just complete delusion now I am seeing . As though I can holler the name of JESUS and live in sin and am saved . what a lie . This is how the churches will even more buy the lie that active gays are still saved , if they believe in JESUS . I mean hey they say WE all sin and sinners RIGHT . IF folks cannot see where this is leading , oh dear they doomed . they truly doomed . We must exhort more than ever and contend more than ever for the true faith that was deleiverd unto the TRUE SAINTS at the FIRST . Dig in those bibles , learn that pattern so deep that if any had to get a chest xray the radiologiset would be like ........oh my does that say John three sixteen on his heart . YEAH DIG IN DEEP . Don't fret; God is getting ready to clean house. Only those who truly know Him, and truly love Him, will remain in it. Trying to hold back the tide of Christian apostasy in these last days is like trying to fight against God, because it's prophetic. It's not going to stop; it's going to lead to exactly what the Scriptures say it is going to lead to and end just as the Scriptures say it will end, as the plots of Godless men also will. Everyone is making their choices, and will make their choices. Some of us will fulfill the Scriptures of blessing and others the Scriptures of condemnation. Those who love the Lord, and those who repent of their rebellion against Him as they may need to, will come to understand everything they need to know to stand firm in their faith in the time of testing ahead and will receive all the grace necessary to do the same; but those who do not will be on their own. They have decided their own fate by hardening their hearts against the Lord and rejecting His doctrine (which is the same as rejecting the One who gave it) in favor of their own will and way and the teachings of men; and they will reap what they have sown. Wisdom is knowing when enough has been said and when to let a thing go and leave it in the hands of God, with regard to our interactions with others. If an exhortation or warning is falling on deaf ears or is being rejected and opposed, continuing to repeat it won't do any good. Let the person go their way and move on. (And beware of casting pearls before swine.) (Perseverance is only good if it's God's will for us to keep at a thing; otherwise it's a foolish waste of His time and ours. Water wasted on desert ground could be watering thirsty crops. We must follow the Holy Spirit's lead in our interactions with other Christians and professing Christians and other unbelievers, in terms of what to say to each person, and we must also know by faith when enough is enough in a particular situation.) "Let the evildoer still do evil, and the filthy still be filthy, and the righteous still do right, and the holy still be holy." (Revelation 22:11)
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Post by John on Jun 5, 2018 15:12:36 GMT -5
Some are getting more and more bold in admitting that they believe everyone is a slave to sin. When I brought up how one person said his sins were so great, that if people knew the real him they would stone him, a group of OSAS believers came running to try to cover it up. He wasn't talking about his life before getting saved, but his life as a Christian, and he further went on to say we all live so bad, people would stone us if they only knew. What a defeated church he must belong to! Unconditional eternal security is a very dangerous and false doctrine.
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Post by Cletus on Jun 5, 2018 16:09:31 GMT -5
We dont have problems. I used to when i believed in OSAS. But you know what, God is good. I fell in a ditch and falling back on OSAS teaching, could not get out of this ditch. I was still a young christian then. God revealed to me thru the bible that I believed something that was not true. He showed me it is possible to be cast off forever, that my branch could be removed, that Gods gift was eternal life and the emphasis is more about how you live than duration of time lived. People just dont want to believe that the flesh can resurrect. Its dangerous to flat out ignore warnings in scripture. Even more dangerous to teach false doctrine. I say this not to condemn but to comfort. God is able to keep them, just as He did me. He is able to lead them to truth and understanding. His arm is not shortened because of a false teaching. Hopefully they wont need the same leading I did. I do recognize the potential for this to be a stumbling block. That i think is the problem. I have decided it does no good to quote scripture to those who believe osas. their mind is made up. Its in Gods hands.
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Post by karanbac on Jun 27, 2018 10:02:31 GMT -5
God assures us in His Word that He is true to His promises. Has God ever lied to anyone? NO! He has chosen those, His elect, to be His Children. Only those who are “enlightened” as in Hebrews 6, who have heard God’s Truth And still reject it are still unsaved. In fact Hebrews tell us they can never be saved once they reject God.
Why would God not assure His children that He has saved them to the uttermost? Hes God! Perfect, righteous, grace and mercy abound but like Paul says, that does NOT give a Believer a free pass to keep on sinning. Unbelievers will use this and KEEP ON sinning, they are proving they are not saved to the uttermost.
We are in covenant with a Holy Righteous God. It is a solemn, binding oath that God will not break...ever. A believer lives to obey and live for God with Christ in us. We cant do any thing on our own, we cant.
When we, the saved, are weak, that is when Christ is strongest in US! HE LIVES IN US, not our old man, thru our new born again self in Christ.
I take comfort in knowing God knows all things about me and yet, He has chosen to save me. HE chose me, an unworthy worm now made into His worthy servant. Praise be to God!
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Post by frienduff on Jun 27, 2018 12:11:22 GMT -5
I know by grace I am saved to the uttermost . And this grace teaches me , YOU BETTER CONTINUE IN THAT ONE WHO SAVED and can KEEP YOU FROM FALLING. OR YOU WILL . We better Die daily and obey the SPIRIT and not that flesh . Work out that salvation with fear and trembling , aka, OBEY HE who is within us . We better start teaching the church , CONTINUE in the one who saves , be not highminded , BUT fear lest GOD spare NOT YOU . PAUL DID . PETER DID . GOD Warned , Christ warned . We got to keep it real . CONTINUE IN JESUS or be cast out . FACT is FACT> SO while I KNOW I am saved, for it was not by myself I was saved , but by grace alone . I KNOW , BETTER FOLLOW HIM , CONTINUE IN HIM , or be cast out .
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Post by John on Jun 29, 2018 7:57:56 GMT -5
I believe we can have eternal security so long as we continue living for the Lord after we get saved. I do not believe in unconditional eternal security. I do not believe a Christian can go back and commit sins willfully and make it to heaven unless they repent. The elect will make it, but only God knows who his elect are. You don't make yourself the elect. Saying a sinner's prayer doesn't make you the elect.
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Post by frienduff on Jun 29, 2018 8:25:02 GMT -5
Many can and do fall away . What we SHOULD take for granted IS THIS . THE ONLY NAME WHEREBY ONE CAN BE SAVED IS JESUS . THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN KEEP US FROM FALLING IS CHRIST . ONLY IN HIM DO WE OVERCOME THE EVIL WITHOUT HIM we can do NOTHING IF WE FOLLOW THE SPIRIT WE WILL NOT FULLFILL the LUSTS of the FLESH IF we believe from the heart and confess with the mouth the LORD we are saved. As for the last statement said . ON that note , WE BETTER MAKE our calling and election SURE . WE better KNOW its JESUS we follow and not men . We better LEARN JESUS from that BIBLE and not men of today , for many men are deceived by a false image of who they think JESUS IS . WE better OBEY the SPIRIT and we better TEST ALL SPIRITS for many deceivers roam all over , taking captive many , taking many crowns by their false speeches. LET NO MAN TAKE THY CROWN . THE CROWN we receive AT THE END , THE END of our faith . WE can have the peace of mind , THAT WE ARE SAVED , IF WE ARE HIS . What we cannot do , is think we wont be tempted and that men cant fall . IF we follow HIM , OBEY HIS SPIRIT , LEARN FROM HIM , we will never fall . THUS , better LEARN the JESUS of the bible . LEARN HIM . LEARN HIM . TEST everything you hear . GET BUILT UP IN CHRIST , by sound doctrine , by HIS SPIRIT which gives us the understanding wisdom , knowledge and all things we need . But beware , lest any does get led away with the error of the wicked and fall from their own steadfastness. NOW , a quick question . DID I POINT TO ME , OR JESUS . JESUS , AS THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN KEEP US , SAVE US and keep us from falling . THE ONLY thing I said about US , is this , BETTER OBEY HIM TO THE END . OR cast out you will be .
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Post by frienduff on Jun 29, 2018 8:35:48 GMT -5
To each and all. This applies to all. To those who are just starting out , and to those who have followed HIM for many years. GET REFRESHED IN THAT BIBLE . Start fresh . Read daily . We have an onslaught of delusion and delusions flowing all over places and increasing . a false love , a false unity , a false FEELING of being saved , YET knowing NOT CHRIST AT ALL. You all might be amazed at what I say next, OR you MIGHT already KNOW IT . Time to deeply REMIND . I have seen a generation that is wise in their own eyes , claims JESUS , claims they love Him , sings praises daily , YET you ask them the simpliest things , and they not only do not KNOW themn , THEY WILLFULLY BREAK JESUS sayings and don't even think they do . THAT brings me back to the point n the above other writing . WE BETTER MAKE our calling and election SURE . LEARN JESUS , be hearers of the word and DOERS of the word . For if you do these things YOU WILL NEVER FALL. THE ONLY ONES , I REPEAT the ONLY ONES who truly are standing ON the true foundation ARE THESE . THOSE WHO HEAR and DO HIS SAYINGS , IT IS HE AT WORK IN THEM and THROUGH THEM . but the hearers and not doers , WILL BE TOLD YE BUILT your house of the sands of mens doctrines , who preached ABOUT CHRIST , but never even KNEW HIM . THEY knew only the image that darkness told THEM WAS CHRIST . And darkness cannot lead us into truth . WE MUST get back in those bibles . WE MUST LEARN that pattern and learn it well by HIS GRACE .
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Post by frienduff on Jun 29, 2018 8:44:00 GMT -5
ONE KEY phrase to LOOK OUT FOR is this . WHEN men come and say The bible is a great place to START , but we have other books and things we have learned. FLEE THEM FAST . the saying should be , THE BIBLE is a great place to start and STAY IN FOR YOUR ENTIRE LIFE . I have heard men use many phrases that sound like they compliment the bible , BUT they then go on to start teaching from other books , other lessons and most folks are biblically illiterate , and they have nothing to TEST these mens teachings by . FOR THE HOLY GHOST will put the LOVE OF TRUTH on our hearts . YEAH it really IS a work of grace and not of us . BUT OF GOD . WE BETTER HEED HIM , WE BETTER GET IN and STAY IN THAT BIBLE . Truly I have never seen a delusion likethe one I am now seeing . This is moving and to the lost it appears as a bright shining light of hope of peace , of unity of love . BUT IT IS DARKNESS and the PRINCE OF IT , doing as he has done since the tree. APPEARING as Light , appearing as a good entity , BUT A LIAR HE IS A DECIEVER HE IS , their is no TRUTH IN HIM . WE MUST cling to JESUS , WE MUST learn that bible , LEARN JESUS sayings , LEARN HIS APPROACH LEARN HOW HE taught . THE SPIRIT would guide us RIGHT INTO THIS . If for any reason some are dull of hearing , SNAP OUT OF IT , Go back into the BIBLE and fast . OH people , I have the strongest unction this deception is about to spring forth and it will deceive with fury those not in the lambs book of life . MAKE that calling and election SURE . AKA, KNOW ITS JESUS YOUR FOLLOWING and not just some good feeling emotion . LEARN HIM . LEARN HIM . LEARN HIM , we running out of time .
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