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Post by John on Mar 13, 2020 5:52:57 GMT -5
I am not going to suggest that the corona virus is no big deal, just as I would not say that the flu or pneumonia or any other illness that can potentially kill are no big deal, but the panic I see over this corona virus is completely unwarranted. This week, I was making a delivery and had to sign a paper questioning where all I have been lately, if I have any flu like symptoms, and even if I have been in the presence of a person wearing a mask. How can anyone that does any shopping avoid coming into contact with someone wearing a mask? People are not always wearing them because they are sick and trying to spare others from catching what they have. Most of the people wearing masks are fearful they will become sick. I see this all the time just shopping at Wal-Mart, and it is usually elderly people.
I heard on the news today that the New York City Mayor is ordering that restaurants throughout the city must reduce customer numbers to half of what is normally allowed. Why? That is not going to stop someone from getting sick. All you have to have is one sick person in that place to infect others. What is next, closing the place altogether? We have professional basketball, soccer, and now baseball suspending their season over this? It is my opinion that this is an intentionally overblown crisis, that is being done to panic everyone and harm the world economy. Yes, I do believe there are people with an agenda that would do that. To me, the panic is far more of a concern than the virus. It is causing people to be irrational. That effects all of us.
We cannot take this lightly anymore. I am not speaking of the corona virus. Sure, if you are elderly or have a poor immune system, you need to be extra careful, but what I am saying we cannot take lightly is this fear mongering and sensationalism. Now we are getting reports of every celebrity that tests positive. I cannot remember that happening the last time there was a flu epidemic. Does anyone remember the last time Tom Hanks had the flu or when some other celebrity had the sniffles? My concern at this point is that these people will have everyone in such a panic they will start closing down businesses or place restrictions in place that will cripple the entire economy and cause shortages. Because this threat is real, I suggest that everyone take reasonable precautions for that possibility.
I feel like I am in the "Twilight Zone," with what I see happening around me over a virus that most will get through even if they become infected. If you have a weakened immune system, are at high risk because of a condition like diabetes or elderly, take precautions. Wear a mask in public. Avoid being in crowds. Wash your hands. Do all the things you would normally do to avoid the flu and things like that, but everyone else should go about their lives as normal, and stop letting people put fear on you. Life in general has risks. Getting out on the highways puts you at risk. How many thousands are killed each year in traffic accidents? I guarantee a lot more than have died from the corona virus. What are they going to do to stop that, close down all the roads or limit travel? I am just a little frustrated with the insanity today.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2020 8:40:43 GMT -5
I think there might be a bit of a rock and a hard place aspect to this....on the one hand the health officials and media have a duty to take this seriously and report what is going on, as well as to try to inform the public what measures they need to take....but at the same time it does cause people to fear.
But there's no doubt this is causing serious havoc in important sectors and there is good reason for concern and a certain amount of preparedness for those who are able to. Only God knows where we will be a year from now.
I have been wondering what kind of powers your President would have if he calls a national state of emergency, or how that would affect government and military etc.
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Post by Tabitha3319 on Mar 13, 2020 9:04:21 GMT -5
There's a minister I follow on YouTube and Facebook, Marcus Rogers
I posted his prophecy on Trump and the election here.
He said his opinion is that, if a pastor cancels church because of Coronavirus, you should stop following that pastor because of his lack of faith.
I'm not sure how I feel about that. He's probably right but it's still harsh.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2020 9:56:53 GMT -5
There's a minister I follow on YouTube and Facebook, Marcus Rogers I posted his prophecy on Trump and the election here. He said his opinion is that, if a pastor cancels church because of Coronavirus, you should stop following that pastor because of his lack of faith. I'm not sure how I feel about that. He's probably right but it's still harsh. Sister, I think your unction is right....if you have no peace about a thing then it is probably not of God. I've learned the hard way if I don't have peace about something, then don't act on it, and seek the Lord for understanding. This sounds like the kind of thing "religious" folk might say....but what comes to mind is that God says we are not to put Him to the test. So I believe we should just generally do what is prudent and reasonable in the circumstances, unless the Lord leads otherwise. There are stories of people even letting their children die because of refusing medical treatment for them out of a fear of seeming to have no faith for a miracle. I think churches should do the common sense thing, as the situation calls for it, and that will also help minimize the spread of this virus, not just for their sakes but for everyone's sake....they can maybe look for other ways to meet, like small groups in people's homes with no hugs or handshakes. Though there will probably be quarantines in effect in various areas at some point and just not able to meet for a while. In general I don't believe God is married to the idea of formalized "church services" and neither do we need to be.
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Post by Tabitha3319 on Mar 13, 2020 10:27:07 GMT -5
There's a minister I follow on YouTube and Facebook, Marcus Rogers I posted his prophecy on Trump and the election here. He said his opinion is that, if a pastor cancels church because of Coronavirus, you should stop following that pastor because of his lack of faith. I'm not sure how I feel about that. He's probably right but it's still harsh. Sister, I think your unction is right....if you have no peace about a thing then it is probably not of God. I've learned the hard way if I don't have peace about something, then don't act on it, and seek the Lord for understanding. This sounds like the kind of thing "religious" folk might say....but what comes to mind is that God says we are not to put Him to the test. So I believe we should just generally do what is prudent and reasonable in the circumstances, unless the Lord leads otherwise. There are stories of people even letting their children die because of refusing medical treatment for them out of a fear of seeming to have no faith for a miracle. I think churches should do the common sense thing, as the situation calls for it, and that will also help minimize the spread of this virus, not just for their sakes but for everyone's sake....they can maybe look for other ways to meet, like small groups in people's homes with no hugs or handshakes. Though there will probably be quarantines in effect in various areas at some point and just not able to meet for a while. In general I don't believe God is married to the idea of formalized "church services" and neither do we need to be. Being a pastor is a tough job. You can't please everyone all the time. If you can't be loyal over a non-sin issue, then I feel like you've missed the point of church. I also agree that you don't have to meet in a traditional building.
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Post by ohhello on Mar 13, 2020 10:28:35 GMT -5
John, you are right. We now see this not just on the news, but in our lives as well. This may sound a really silly question, so please forgive me, why would they want to crash the economy and who or what is wanting to crash it? I agree with what you are saying, as it already is having a big impact on it. It has now created a mass hysteria. Have you seen news coverage of people fighting each other and panic buying! Like wild animals.
Let us all hold tight to Jesus and make sure we stay in His peace.
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Post by frienduff on Mar 13, 2020 14:01:55 GMT -5
I am not going to suggest that the corona virus is no big deal, just as I would not say that the flu or pneumonia or any other illness that can potentially kill are no big deal, but the panic I see over this corona virus is completely unwarranted. This week, I was making a delivery and had to sign a paper questioning where all I have been lately, if I have any flu like symptoms, and even if I have been in the presence of a person wearing a mask. How can anyone that does any shopping avoid coming into contact with someone wearing a mask? People are not always wearing them because they are sick and trying to spare others from catching what they have. Most of the people wearing masks are fearful they will become sick. I see this all the time just shopping at Wal-Mart, and it is usually elderly people.
I heard on the news today that the New York City Mayor is ordering that restaurants throughout the city must reduce customer numbers to half of what is normally allowed. Why? That is not going to stop someone from getting sick. All you have to have is one sick person in that place to infect others. What is next, closing the place altogether? We have professional basketball, soccer, and now baseball suspending their season over this? It is my opinion that this is an intentionally overblown crisis, that is being done to panic everyone and harm the world economy. Yes, I do believe there are people with an agenda that would do that. To me, the panic is far more of a concern than the virus. It is causing people to be irrational. That effects all of us.
We cannot take this lightly anymore. I am not speaking of the corona virus. Sure, if you are elderly or have a poor immune system, you need to be extra careful, but what I am saying we cannot take lightly is this fear mongering and sensationalism. Now we are getting reports of every celebrity that tests positive. I cannot remember that happening the last time there was a flu epidemic. Does anyone remember the last time Tom Hanks had the flu or when some other celebrity had the sniffles? My concern at this point is that these people will have everyone in such a panic they will start closing down businesses or place restrictions in place that will cripple the entire economy and cause shortages. Because this threat is real, I suggest that everyone take reasonable precautions for that possibility.
I feel like I am in the "Twilight Zone," with what I see happening around me over a virus that most will get through even if they become infected. If you have a weakened immune system, are at high risk because of a condition like diabetes or elderly, take precautions. Wear a mask in public. Avoid being in crowds. Wash your hands. Do all the things you would normally do to avoid the flu and things like that, but everyone else should go about their lives as normal, and stop letting people put fear on you. Life in general has risks. Getting out on the highways puts you at risk. How many thousands are killed each year in traffic accidents? I guarantee a lot more than have died from the corona virus. What are they going to do to stop that, close down all the roads or limit travel? I am just a little frustrated with the insanity today.
Butero might be right . something has been seeming wrong as of late . I have no doubt this is a bad virus . NO DOUBT . but if they really were concerned or cared . HOW COME not a nursing home one has been put on quarantine and protected . I have been saying this for weeks . IF i were mayor , all my nursing homes would already have been on lock down . No visistors at all . we got tons of tech . families can still phone call and still live talk on the computer . I dont think the corona virus is not bad . IT IS . but i think this right here , what i say next IS THE PROBLEM READY . NEVER LET A GOOD CRISIS GO TO WASTE. I THINK they using this for an agenda . OH YES . That does not mean i dont think it will or could get worse . IT just means THEY DO USE things like this , never let a good crisis go to waste . THAT IS THIER WORDS . AND like i said , IF THEY EVEN cared one ounce about the ones its really hurting , ELDERY and sick , they could easily have done simple measures . BUT GUESS what , the elderly and sick , THEY LIVE off govts and so forth . SO WHY would they not want them dead and at the same time , WOA they can use it as for an agenda too . its a double win for them . Something is not right . WHY WONT they take the measures to quarantine and protect the elderly . IF I know this , YOU KNOW THEY DO TOO . Exactly . THEY do not really care . In fact the more eldery that die , they can use that to cause more fear too .
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Post by frienduff on Mar 13, 2020 14:04:48 GMT -5
John, you are right. We now see this not just on the news, but in our lives as well. This may sound a really silly question, so please forgive me, why would they want to crash the economy and who or what is wanting to crash it? I agree with what you are saying, as it already is having a big impact on it. It has now created a mass hysteria. Have you seen news coverage of people fighting each other and panic buying! Like wild animals. Let us all hold tight to Jesus and make sure we stay in His peace. Truly its just better we cling to JESUS and focus on HIM and the gosple and correction and edfication . but i do have an answer . They crash and cause fear , ONLY to set up and offer a solutoin under a whole new system . But as i said , its better we just focus on JESUS and get the gosple out
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Post by frienduff on Mar 13, 2020 14:11:46 GMT -5
THEY dont care about the eldery . they dont . Because i know it harms them most . And if i am but a simple man and already know what i have would have easily done to protect nursing homes . HOW COME IT AINT BEEN DONE . The eldery and those with compromised immune systems , they are a Drain on the govt , THEY DONT CARE . THEY DONT . Someone has to protect the eldery , from something even worse than corna , a wicked one world social inclusive govt . If babies can be killed and its called freedom , that shows they got no value on human life . DO we really think the system gives rip about the eldery either . It dont . I already shut down my visits to the nursing home about three weeks back . HOW COME they wont do this . OH They shut down dumb games , BUT WHAT about protecting the most vunerable . Like i said , if i knew this a while back . YA KNOW THEY DID . I think they using a few casualites as an excuese to fear monger . And it dont matter how many old die in fact the more the better , cause the more fear it will cause . This is so sad , it just feels heavy and wicked .
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Post by ohhello on Mar 13, 2020 14:18:53 GMT -5
Yes Frienduff. You are so correct in everything you have said. Of course Governments don’t care about the people. They just care about staying in power and money.
LET US FOCUS ON OUR LORD JESUS!!!
A big Amen to that brother!
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Post by frienduff on Mar 13, 2020 15:52:33 GMT -5
Yes Frienduff. You are so correct in everything you have said. Of course Governments don’t care about the people. They just care about staying in power and money. LET US FOCUS ON OUR LORD JESUS!!! A big Amen to that brother! I agree dear sister . its even depressing to speculate about this . Lets exhort and point to the HOLY LORD . The end time signs are real evident as to what days these are .
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2020 18:03:46 GMT -5
Just answered a similar question on another forum that -what is happening in our own area where we live and this year will be remembered for this virus. This is my answer.
People are panicking and are being mind controlled to do things totally out of character -Stealing hand soap from hospitals,Or buying countless things like toilet rolls etc. Had a phone call this evening from our GP that they are now on lock down for non urgent illnesses yet there are only two cases know in the entire Somerset.
We have been witnessing for years that the day of the Lord will come to return for those that are saved -Only a few respond. Only a few Christians are urged to share the word of God to the lost like these souls depend on it. News of the virus spreads more quickly than the virus it self and yet the truth about Hell and sharing to the lost that they are going to hell falls on death hears.
Just don't get it. It would be really great if 2020 could also be remembered for 1000's who came to know Jesus.
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Post by John on Mar 14, 2020 15:40:59 GMT -5
John, you are right. We now see this not just on the news, but in our lives as well. This may sound a really silly question, so please forgive me, why would they want to crash the economy and who or what is wanting to crash it? I agree with what you are saying, as it already is having a big impact on it. It has now created a mass hysteria. Have you seen news coverage of people fighting each other and panic buying! Like wild animals. Let us all hold tight to Jesus and make sure we stay in His peace. If it was just in the United States, political enemies of Trump would like to harm the economy, but I believe this goes bigger than American politics. I think those who are trying to create a global government and a global economy want to crash the entire system that is in place to lead us into the beast system.
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Post by John on Mar 14, 2020 15:48:55 GMT -5
Just answered a similar question on another forum that -what is happening in our own area where we live and this year will be remembered for this virus. This is my answer. People are panicking and are being mind controlled to do things totally out of character -Stealing hand soap from hospitals,Or buying countless things like toilet rolls etc. Had a phone call this evening from our GP that they are now on lock down for non urgent illnesses yet there are only two cases know in the entire Somerset. We have been witnessing for years that the day of the Lord will come to return for those that are saved -Only a few respond. Only a few Christians are urged to share the word of God to the lost like these souls depend on it. News of the virus spreads more quickly than the virus it self and yet the truth about Hell and sharing to the lost that they are going to hell falls on death hears. Just don't get it. It would be really great if 2020 could also be remembered for 1000's who came to know Jesus. I went to the store yesterday to get my regular grocery items, and there was not a roll of toilet paper to be found. People had come in the day before and bought every single roll. People were in a panic, buying up everything in sight. I went by the grocery store to see if they had any bathroom tissue, and they had none. Also, the stores had limits on the amount of bottled water you could purchase. I finally found some bathroom tissue at a Dollar General, but they did not have that much. I did not go in there to buy all they had. I just wanted enough. I am not saying that this is not serious, but I am saying it is not the plague either, and the flu, which is a threat every year, can kill people who are not in the best of health. You didn't see everything being cancelled over the flu, pneumonia, and every other sickness. I have never seen anything like this. It is a manufactured panic. It could be a test for something much worse down the road.
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Post by John on Mar 14, 2020 15:54:10 GMT -5
By the way, right now, across the bottom of the television screen, is a massive list of churches that have cancelled their services because of the corona virus. I have never seen this before. If this was something more serious, like the black plague or something like that, I would totally support what they are doing, but this makes no sense! It is insanity, and if people are going to live in this much fear over the corona virus, what will they do when they are ordered to take the mark of the beast or else?
I do not know if the public at large really supports all of this. People I run into in day to day activities agree with me that this panic is not warranted. Even at the place I delivered to where they were making me sign a paper asking about my recent activities and who I have come in contact with, as well as if I have had flu symptoms, they thought everyone was going overboard. They were just following orders. This comes across to me as some kind of conspiracy. I do not trust any of it.
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