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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2020 15:48:19 GMT -5
Why would God allow Covid-19?
“Why would God allow Covid-19?” The whole world seems to be asking this question, a fact that actually gives the biggest part of the answer. More on that shortly.
COVID-19, or coronavirus disease 2019, is a respiratory illness caused by a coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2). The effect of the illness can range from mild to severe. First identified in Wuhan, China, in late 2019, the virus quickly spread to other countries. On March 11, 2020, COVID-19 was declared a pandemic by the World Health Organization.
Only a liar or a true prophet can claim to know God’s reasons for bringing about COVID-19 or any other specific calamity. That’s partly because God’s purpose extends to every individual involved, from the beginning of time to the end of the world. Understanding every possible factor goes far beyond human ability, but God has within His complete knowledge and control every facet of every situation (Romans 8:28–30). The Bible reveals some insights about God’s use of deadly disasters in general, but we must apply relevant Scripture and the principles of faith in order to gain wisdom about any specific disaster.
As with any mystery, to solve it we must go from the known to the unknown in our search. So we’ll put question of why God would allow COVID-19 into the context of what we already know from the Bible and from personal experience: we know that life is a gift from the Creator (Isaiah 42:5; Acts 17:25). We know that God alone has the right and power to give life and take it away according to His own wisdom and plans (Job 2:10). We know that life is short and includes some degree of suffering, ending in death and judgment for how we lived our lives—only one life with no “do-overs” (Hebrews 9:27). Short or long, our lifespan and date of death are set and controlled by God (Matthew 10:29). Even the longest human lives are “like a breath; their days are like a fleeting shadow” (Psalm 144:4).
Moses described God’s sovereignty over life and death, and this could have been written about today’s COVID-19 pandemic: “You turn people back to dust, saying, ‘Return to dust, you mortals.’ A thousand years in your sight are like a day that has just gone by, or like a watch in the night. Yet you sweep people away in the sleep of death— they are like the new grass of the morning: In the morning it springs up new, but by evening it is dry and withered” (Psalm 90:3–6).
So what is God’s purpose in allowing COVID-19? Without being too dogmatic, we know that, generally speaking, one of God’s purposes in trials is to get the world’s attention off themselves and onto Him, their Creator and Savior—which is the biggest part of the answer to the question at hand. “Why would God allow COVID-19?” Millions are suddenly asking that question right now, believers and non-believers alike, which means that God is on their minds. God desires for all people to earnestly seek Him and find Him, discovering that He is actually close to us (Jeremiah 29:13; Acts 17:26–28). God desires us to sense our own weakness and neediness so that we put our trust in Him (2 Corinthians 12:9). God desires people to fear Him with proper reverence and awe (Proverbs 9:10); to love Him more than their own lives (Matthew 10:37; John 12:25); and to show love and gratitude for the Savior by loving and helping fellow humans, especially the suffering (Romans 15:1; James 2:14–17). God desires to shift our focus and affection away from this temporary, troubled world to our eternal, heavenly home (Colossians 3:1–2; Hebrews 12:1–2).
Times of trouble are a prime motivation for us to store up treasures in heaven rather than cling to treasures on earth (Matthew 6:19–20; Colossians 3:1–3), and to be good stewards of those blessings God gives us in this life (Luke 16:11; Matthew 25:14–30). God wants us to trust Him absolutely, knowing that our times are in His hand (Psalm 31:15).
Ultimately, it is the poor and hurting who seek God, not the rich and comfortable. It is danger and calamity that turn men to their Savior, not health and wealth (see Mark 2:17). It is suffering that wakes us to our true need. C. S. Lewis put it this way: “God whispers to us in our pleasures, speaks in our conscience, but shouts in our pain: it is His megaphone to rouse a deaf world” (The Problem of Pain, HarperCollins, 1996, p. 91).
Life for all people means facing suffering, death, and their eternal destiny. Even if we develop immunity to COVID-19, we can’t escape the fact of trouble in the world. What’s best for us, in any situation, is to seek God: “Blessed are those who keep his statutes and seek him with all their heart” (Psalm 119:2).
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Post by frienduff on Apr 14, 2020 16:08:23 GMT -5
Brasília (AFP) - A 99-year-old World War II veteran in Brazil was released from hospital with military honors Tuesday after recovering from COVID-19.
Second Lieutenant Ermando Piveta, who served in the Brazilian artillery in Africa during World War II, was brought out of the Armed Forces Hospital in Brasilia to a burst of trumpet music and applause.
Wearing an army-green side cap, he raised his arms in the air as he left the hospital after eight days as a patient.
"He won another battle, this time against the new coronavirus. He was released from hospital the same day Brazil is commemorating the 75th anniversary of its troops' successful campaign in the Battle of Montese in Italy during World War II," the army said in a statement.
Piveta served in the army's fourth artillery regiment, which trained in Dakar in 1942, soon after Brazil entered the war on the side of the Allies, the army said.
He then returned to Brazil with his regiment to defend the country from an Axis invasion that never came to be.
Brazil is the hardest-hit country in Latin America in the coronavirus pandemic, with 1,532 deaths so far.
BOTTOME LINE . GOD IS IN CONTROL . some have died quite young from this , yet this man is NINETY NINE . But in the end all that matters is this whether a man lives a hundred years or twenty , IF HE KNOWS NOT JESUS , then THE END WILL NOT BODE WELL . For it mattered not if one lived to be twenty or a hundred and twenty , WHAT MATTERS , IS DID THEY KNOW JESUS . cause eternity is forever , and no matter how long we live IN THIS LIFE , its but a vapor compared to eternity . WHERE WILL ONE SPEND ETERNITY . WELL IF HAVE JESUS , ITS JOY FOREVER , but if we know not the biblcal JESUS , The words i write cannot even begin to touch the torment that awaits .
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Post by frienduff on Apr 14, 2020 16:09:26 GMT -5
TRUTH IS TRUTH . JESUS SAVES , BUT JESUS WONT BE DENIED EITHER .
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Post by Cletus on Apr 14, 2020 17:46:23 GMT -5
God is allowing this because people are not heeding the call to repent and this "punishment" is NEEDED to get folks attention.
it was said in new york by a medical professional this is worse than 911. well church attendance went up after 911 and then dropped off worse than it was previous to nine eleven. this is more wide spread and can effect anyone. ?Hows your attention span?
speaking of new york, they aint lighting up towers pink right now cheering and celebrating death... and they are hit hardest.
God is speaking. not just without words in our daily goings on... but with words. met a fella yesterday. owns a radio station. gospel radio. he reports not only are more, a lot more tuning in but that he is meeting people who want his radio feed to broadcast. globally. people are sitting at home hungry. uncertain. desperate for fellowship. all sorts of things in peoples lives. yes, God is speaking with words too. i actually already knew this fella already. he is a truck driver and delivers to my job. i spoke on THe LORD, and he responded with his part. the wuhan fever is not the only big thing Gods got going on on his earth.
God is calling... and people do not realize they are poor and naked and wretched and in need of a Savior. and that death is only a breath away.
God works in mysterious ways, my friend. even when it seems like doom and gloom, He Is not sitting on His hands.
rise up church. we serve an awesome God.
in fact let me tell you how awesome... this corona virus. God speaks with the virus. how so? it effects your ability to draw a breath. ventilators may be needed... God is our breath and 2 times in the bible God breathed on us to give life... do a word study on breath/breath of life, etc. now, corona means crown... but what crown? the crown of sunlight you see around the moon during an eclipse. something is between us and the sun/Son... our Light. even the virus speaks to get what ever is in between you and your source of light, and He Is the light of men... out of the way... REPENT!
oh yes, God is speaking.
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Post by John on Apr 14, 2020 17:59:25 GMT -5
God is allowing this because people are not heeding the call to repent and this "punishment" is NEEDED to get folks attention. it was said in new york by a medical professional this is worse than 911. well church attendance went up after 911 and then dropped off worse than it was previous to nine eleven. this is more wide spread and can effect anyone. ?Hows your attention span? speaking of new york, they aint lighting up towers pink right now cheering and celebrating death... and they are hit hardest. God is speaking. not just without words in our daily goings on... but with words. met a fella yesterday. owns a radio station. gospel radio. he reports not only are more, a lot more tuning in but that he is meeting people who want his radio feed to broadcast. globally. people are sitting at home hungry. uncertain. desperate for fellowship. all sorts of things in peoples lives. yes, God is speaking with words too. i actually already knew this fella already. he is a truck driver and delivers to my job. i spoke on THe LORD, and he responded with his part. the wuhan fever is not the only big thing Gods got going on on his earth. God is calling... and people do not realize they are poor and naked and wretched and in need of a Savior. and that death is only a breath away. God works in mysterious ways, my friend. even when it seems like doom and gloom, He Is not sitting on His hands. rise up church. we serve an awesome God. in fact let me tell you how awesome... this corona virus. God speaks with the virus. how so? it effects your ability to draw a breath. ventilators may be needed... God is our breath and 2 times in the bible God breathed on us to give life... do a word study on breath/breath of life, etc. now, corona means crown... but what crown? the crown of sunlight you see around the moon during an eclipse. something is between us and the sun/Son... our Light. even the virus speaks to get what ever is in between you and your source of light, and He Is the light of men... out of the way... REPENT! oh yes, God is speaking. I think it is getting the attention of some, but the wicked are going to continue to turn to worldly solutions. There is a separating taking place. Some are going more towards God, while others are trying to use this as an excuse to promote secular humanism and globalism. God is reaching those who have ears to hear, while others remain deaf and blind.
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Post by Tabitha3319 on Apr 14, 2020 18:01:27 GMT -5
God is allowing this because people are not heeding the call to repent and this "punishment" is NEEDED to get folks attention. it was said in new york by a medical professional this is worse than 911. well church attendance went up after 911 and then dropped off worse than it was previous to nine eleven. this is more wide spread and can effect anyone. ?Hows your attention span? speaking of new york, they aint lighting up towers pink right now cheering and celebrating death... and they are hit hardest. God is speaking. not just without words in our daily goings on... but with words. met a fella yesterday. owns a radio station. gospel radio. he reports not only are more, a lot more tuning in but that he is meeting people who want his radio feed to broadcast. globally. people are sitting at home hungry. uncertain. desperate for fellowship. all sorts of things in peoples lives. yes, God is speaking with words too. i actually already knew this fella already. he is a truck driver and delivers to my job. i spoke on THe LORD, and he responded with his part. the wuhan fever is not the only big thing Gods got going on on his earth. God is calling... and people do not realize they are poor and naked and wretched and in need of a Savior. and that death is only a breath away. God works in mysterious ways, my friend. even when it seems like doom and gloom, He Is not sitting on His hands. rise up church. we serve an awesome God. in fact let me tell you how awesome... this corona virus. God speaks with the virus. how so? it effects your ability to draw a breath. ventilators may be needed... God is our breath and 2 times in the bible God breathed on us to give life... do a word study on breath/breath of life, etc. now, corona means crown... but what crown? the crown of sunlight you see around the moon during an eclipse. something is between us and the sun/Son... our Light. even the virus speaks to get what ever is in between you and your source of light, and He Is the light of men... out of the way... REPENT! oh yes, God is speaking. I think it is getting the attention of some, but the wicked are going to continue to turn to worldly solutions. There is a separating taking place. Some are going more towards God, while others are trying to use this as an excuse to promote secular humanism and globalism. God is reaching those who have ears to hear, while others remain deaf and blind.
The Lord sure is awesome!
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Post by Tabitha3319 on Apr 14, 2020 18:20:46 GMT -5
I know God is using this to save many and for His glory.
That's why I'm not afraid.
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Post by Cletus on Apr 14, 2020 23:06:53 GMT -5
God is allowing this because people are not heeding the call to repent and this "punishment" is NEEDED to get folks attention. it was said in new york by a medical professional this is worse than 911. well church attendance went up after 911 and then dropped off worse than it was previous to nine eleven. this is more wide spread and can effect anyone. ?Hows your attention span? speaking of new york, they aint lighting up towers pink right now cheering and celebrating death... and they are hit hardest. God is speaking. not just without words in our daily goings on... but with words. met a fella yesterday. owns a radio station. gospel radio. he reports not only are more, a lot more tuning in but that he is meeting people who want his radio feed to broadcast. globally. people are sitting at home hungry. uncertain. desperate for fellowship. all sorts of things in peoples lives. yes, God is speaking with words too. i actually already knew this fella already. he is a truck driver and delivers to my job. i spoke on THe LORD, and he responded with his part. the wuhan fever is not the only big thing Gods got going on on his earth. God is calling... and people do not realize they are poor and naked and wretched and in need of a Savior. and that death is only a breath away. God works in mysterious ways, my friend. even when it seems like doom and gloom, He Is not sitting on His hands. rise up church. we serve an awesome God. in fact let me tell you how awesome... this corona virus. God speaks with the virus. how so? it effects your ability to draw a breath. ventilators may be needed... God is our breath and 2 times in the bible God breathed on us to give life... do a word study on breath/breath of life, etc. now, corona means crown... but what crown? the crown of sunlight you see around the moon during an eclipse. something is between us and the sun/Son... our Light. even the virus speaks to get what ever is in between you and your source of light, and He Is the light of men... out of the way... REPENT! oh yes, God is speaking. I think it is getting the attention of some, but the wicked are going to continue to turn to worldly solutions. There is a separating taking place. Some are going more towards God, while others are trying to use this as an excuse to promote secular humanism and globalism. God is reaching those who have ears to hear, while others remain deaf and blind.
Pro 10:29 The way of the LORD is strength to the upright: but destruction shall be to the workers of iniquity.
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Post by frienduff on Apr 15, 2020 16:11:22 GMT -5
As for the lambs , WE WILL PRAISE THE KING THROUGH IT ALL .
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Post by frienduff on Apr 15, 2020 18:43:02 GMT -5
The number is down because we brought the number down," he told the press. "God did not do that. Faith did not do that. Destiny did not do that. A lot of pain and suffering did that...That's how it works. It's math. And if you don't continue to do that, you're going to see that number go back up. And that will be a tragedy if that number goes back up."
THERES the response of GOVE CUOMO . THEY LIT THOSE TOWERS UP PINK WITH PRIDE , and PRIDE HAS THEM NOW . We must do all to contend for the true faith more than ever .
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Post by frienduff on Apr 15, 2020 18:44:36 GMT -5
ARISE SISTER NAOMI , LET THE PRAYERS BEGIN . ITS ALL OUT WAR , for the souls of men . Let the ignornant be ignorant , let the righteous in JESUS be righteous . GET THE GOSPLE OUT and WE must now do all out double reminders of correction as well .
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Post by frienduff on Apr 15, 2020 18:45:00 GMT -5
BATTLE TIME . hit the trenches RUNNING WITH THE WHOLE ARMOUR OF GOD . ITS WAR .
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Post by frienduff on Apr 15, 2020 18:46:39 GMT -5
THEY SHUT DOWN CHURCHES , AND THEY SAY THINGS LIKE THIS . NO SIRS , ITS WAR , they WONT SILENCE US . LET prayers be increased , let TRUTH be spoken only more .
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Post by frienduff on Apr 15, 2020 18:48:36 GMT -5
THEY preach their solution , WELL WE GONNA PREACH OURS . REPENT YE and BELEIVE THE GOSPLE , verses their dead fake all inclusive solution that gives the power as MEN . WE GOT TWO SOLUTOINS and theirs IS FALSE . they aint taking no time off , WE AINT TAKING NO TIME OFF . THIS IS WHERE IT WAS ALWAYS HEADED , a FINAL GREAT CLIMATIC BATTLE . OUR KING WON , WE WIN . SO GET THE MESSAGE OUT and CORRECTION MUST BE SOUNDED .
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Post by John on Apr 15, 2020 18:51:42 GMT -5
The number is down because we brought the number down," he told the press. "God did not do that. Faith did not do that. Destiny did not do that. A lot of pain and suffering did that...That's how it works. It's math. And if you don't continue to do that, you're going to see that number go back up. And that will be a tragedy if that number goes back up." THERES the response of GOVE CUOMO . THEY LIT THOSE TOWERS UP PINK WITH PRIDE , and PRIDE HAS THEM NOW . We must do all to contend for the true faith more than ever . People like that are humanists whose god is self. We will continue to trust in the God of the Bible, regardless of what is taking place in this world. In reality, all that the Bible said would happen in the last days is taking place, but people are ignorant, and do not recognize the signs of the times. People like Governor Cuomo are blind leaders of the blind.
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