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Post by tlsitd on Jun 17, 2018 19:13:20 GMT -5
Having prayed about the matter, and having the peace and approval of the Lord to do it, I recorded the message He gave me this morning as a video message, as it was suggested to me by one of the sisters here. (The audio is low, unfortunately, so headphones may be necessary, but it is subtitled.)
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Post by John on Jun 18, 2018 8:57:38 GMT -5
If your desire is to reach as many as possible, this should be helpful, because just the title, "A Prophetic Word From The Lord" will draw attention. A lot of people will watch anything prophetic.
I read your prophecy a couple of times over, and the one thing I am wondering about is why would God need to purify his church, when the church is made clean by the blood of Jesus? I have always believed the purpose of the end time events was to reveal Christ to those who have not been saved, and to judge and punish the wicked. On the one hand, if we are living in a way that is not acceptable in the sight of God, we are told we will be unable to stand and be castaways, but on the other hand, if we are walking as close to Christ as possible, we have refining and testing to look forward to.
By no means am I suggesting this is not from God. I am very careful about making those kind of judgments, and there is nothing I saw that might not be true based on scripture, but that is one thing I was having a question over. There was also the comment about Jesus referring to the Father as his God or perhaps it was our God, I don't remember the exact wording, since Jesus is God, but he always pointed us to the Father, so I am not wanting to make too much of that either. I was wondering about your thoughts on those things, and also, has the Lord used you in the past to give messages like this? Thanks.
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Post by 2fw8212a on Jun 18, 2018 10:27:28 GMT -5
...I am wondering about is why would God need to purify his church, when the church is made clean by the blood of Jesus?
The problem is that many professing Christians are not walking in the light, as it is expected for all Christians to do. In other words, they must repent and turn.
"If we say that we have fellowship with Him, and walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth." - 1 John 1:6
"But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin." - 1 John 1:7
There was also the comment about Jesus referring to the Father as his God or perhaps it was our God, I don't remember the exact wording, since Jesus is God, but he always pointed us to the Father, so I am not wanting to make too much of that either. I was wondering about your thoughts on those things, and also, has the Lord used you in the past to give messages like this?
"He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the temple of My God, and he shall go out no more. I will write on him the name of My God and the name of the city of My God, the New Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from My God. And I will write on him My new name." - Revelation 3:12
"Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men." - Philippians 2:5-7
God bless you all in Jesus' name!
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Post by John on Jun 18, 2018 10:31:59 GMT -5
...I am wondering about is why would God need to purify his church, when the church is made clean by the blood of Jesus?
The problem is that many professing Christians are not walking in the light, as it is expected for all Christians to do. In other words, they must repent and turn.
"If we say that we have fellowship with Him, and walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth." - 1 John 1:6
"But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin." - 1 John 1:7
There was also the comment about Jesus referring to the Father as his God or perhaps it was our God, I don't remember the exact wording, since Jesus is God, but he always pointed us to the Father, so I am not wanting to make too much of that either. I was wondering about your thoughts on those things, and also, has the Lord used you in the past to give messages like this?
"He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the temple of My God, and he shall go out no more. I will write on him the name of My God and the name of the city of My God, the New Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from My God. And I will write on him My new name." - Revelation 3:12
"Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men." - Philippians 2:5-7
God bless you all in Jesus' name! Thanks 2f. That certainly takes care of my second question, and confirms it is 100 percent Biblical. The other thing was about refining those who are already walking close to God. It is very possible God has his reasons for doing that, so I am not saying it is wrong. Those were just questions I had, but I appreciate you completely taking away any concerns I had over the second point.
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Post by tlsitd on Jun 18, 2018 11:58:56 GMT -5
If your desire is to reach as many as possible, this should be helpful, because just the title, "A Prophetic Word From The Lord" will draw attention. A lot of people will watch anything prophetic.
I read your prophecy a couple of times over, and the one thing I am wondering about is why would God need to purify his church, when the church is made clean by the blood of Jesus? I have always believed the purpose of the end time events was to reveal Christ to those who have not been saved, and to judge and punish the wicked. On the one hand, if we are living in a way that is not acceptable in the sight of God, we are told we will be unable to stand and be castaways, but on the other hand, if we are walking as close to Christ as possible, we have refining and testing to look forward to.
By no means am I suggesting this is not from God. I am very careful about making those kind of judgments, and there is nothing I saw that might not be true based on scripture, but that is one thing I was having a question over. There was also the comment about Jesus referring to the Father as his God or perhaps it was our God, I don't remember the exact wording, since Jesus is God, but he always pointed us to the Father, so I am not wanting to make too much of that either. I was wondering about your thoughts on those things, and also, has the Lord used you in the past to give messages like this? Thanks.
Wow. That's a lot to answer!
The tribulation has two main purposes: It will be a time of testing the faith of the saints in order to refine them (not to sanctify them positionally, which we already are when we are born again and come to be in Christ and He in us).
Therefore, being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ: By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God. And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also; knowing that tribulation worketh patience (or produces perseverance); and patience (perseverance), experience (or character); and experience (or character) hope: And hope maketh not ashamed (or does not put us to shame); because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us. (Romans 5:1-5)
So the purpose of the great tribulation will be the same as the purpose of all tribulation for those who love God---to produce Christ-like character in us and to strengthen our faith in God. (Of course, this is for those who LOVE God; for Christians who do NOT love God, it will be a time of judgment---of Him sifting impenitent, rebellious Christians with sin-hardened hearts out from among those who love Him. And yes, Christians can become hardened by sin if they make a habit of rejecting God's word and going against the desires of His Spirit, which is a large focus of the epistle of Hebrews.
The other main purpose of the great tribulation period will be the judgment of the wicked who have rejected the gospel, upon whom God's wrath will be falling during that time, as it did upon the land of Egypt in the time of Moses. Christians will not suffer those, but they will be being persecuted by the wrath of Satan during that time. The two should not be confused: The wrath of Satan is not the wrath of God. The wrath of Satan will be persecuting Christians during the tribulation; and this is not the wrath to which Christians are 'not appointed' (by election) as some erroneously teach.
We ARE appointed unto persecution (which includes the wrath of Satan during the great tribulation, which is God-ordained for the saints); we are not appointed (by election) unto the wrath of God, either during the tribulation and the subsequent destruction of the earth by fire, or in the lake of fire on the day of judgment. However, that doesn't mean we can't still reap God's wrath if we choose not to remain faithful to Jesus. Not being appointed unto wrath has to do with God having chosen ("appointed") us from eternity to be saved and having predestined us to receive mercy and eternal life---not with there being nothing we can do after being saved to forfeit that gift and reap the same consequences as those who were not predestined to receive His mercy and salvation. (It'll be far worse for ex-Christians in the lake of fire than it will be for any other human beings, for that reason.)
There won't be anyone left to be saved by the time God's judgments begin to be poured out on the earth during the tribulation: The 144,000 Jews, the last of His elect (everyone whom He has predestined from eternity to be saved), will be saved after the last of God's elect among the Gentiles has been saved (Romans 11:25) and before any of His judgments are poured out on the earth (Revelation 7:2-8).
Thereby we can know that once those judgments begin to fall, there is no one else left to be saved, either Jew or Gentile. (People will be cursing God during the tribulation, not getting saved.) And that angel who will preach the gospel to the world during the tribulation will do so as a second fulfillment of Jesus' prophecy about the gospel being preached to the whole world before the end (the utter destruction of the earth by fire at His return) comes---the first fulfillment of that prophecy having been accomplished by His apostles, as He had commissioned them to do (Mark 16:15,20; Acts 1:8; Colossians 1:23.) It will be for a testimony to the nations, as a matter of God's Divine justice (no one will be able to say they didn't hear the gospel), but no one is going to get saved on account of it, because there won't be anyone left to be saved. All the unsaved who remain by the time of the tribulation will be goats and tares (weeds)---children of the devil who were never appointed to be saved. (See Romans 9:14-24.)
There won't be any revealing of Christ to the unsaved during the tribulation in terms of salvation---but every eye will see Him on the day He is revealed from heaven in flaming fire! (And that will not be a happy day for most.)
As for the Lord referring to God the Father as His God, He does that in the Scriptures, in the gospels and in the Revelation, so I don't know why He wouldn't do so in a prophetic message. God the Father is Jesus' God according to His humanity, but Jesus is God and equal to God the Father according to His deity, as He has always been, being both fully man and fully God.
As for your last question, the Lord has used me to give others insight into what He is going to do in the last days (whether or not they have received it), according to revelations of understanding He has given me regarding the saints and the tribulation, through the interpretation of His word to me and through spirit to Spirit communication. I have only delivered one other word-for-word prophetic message before (if indeed that is what it was; I am not entirely sure), but I often communicate with the Lord in my spirit and He with me, and what I share with others in the video messages on "my" YouTube channel concerning this subject (the tribulation)---however ineloquently---comes from those two things: the revelations of understanding He has given me from His word and the understanding He has given me through that spirit to Spirit communication, which agrees with the Scriptures.
The Bible says in Daniel that in the last days knowledge will increase, and that the wise among the people (of God) will make many (of His people) understand. (Evil people will go on deceiving and being deceived---both people who do not know God and hard-hearted, dull-hearted, rebellious Christians who do know Him but are choosing not to obey Him.) That increasing knowledge is the increasing understanding of God's word as it relates to what He is going to do with us, which God will give those who love Him to prepare them for the things that are going to happen to them, just as He did with the prophetic messages He delivered to the churches in Asia through the apostle John---to show His servants what must soon take place (Revelation 1:1). As it also says in Amos, God does nothing (to His people) without revealing His secret to His servants the prophets. It's not a matter of anything being added to what is in the Scriptures, but only of God increasing understanding of what what is written means, and what it means for us, because it is the time for those things to begin happening.
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Post by John on Jun 19, 2018 4:56:15 GMT -5
Thanks Lights. I appreciate you taking the time to answer that, and I guess it was quite a bit. I do believe God still has prophets today and still gives messages at times to the church. I do not see that as adding to the Word, as some people charge.
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