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Post by frienduff on Sept 10, 2020 10:17:11 GMT -5
I want to remind us of a few corrections and examples of corrections in the bible . I want us to look at these and then really ponder deep on them . THen imagine if we heard these kind of rebukes today , how would we recieve such a man who gave those kinds of rebukes today . Would we see them as men of GOD , or as haters , untolerant , biggots and mean . Prepare to pull up chairs . For i will start with JESUS and then give some examples by peter , paul , and james and jude . Be prepared if you shock easily .
JESUS . IF GOD was truly your Father , ye would Love me , for i proceeded forth from God , niether came i of my own self but HE sent me . WHY do ye not understand my speech , because you cannot hear my word . YE are of your father THE DEVIL and the lusts of YOUR father you will do . Today that would be seen as hateful , accusations . many if they saw a man saying this to a jew or anyone , would say , HEY dude you dont KNOW LOVE , yOU DONT KNOW GOD we need to LOVE them TO JESUS . BUT oops , IT was JESUS himself that approached these jews . We also hear JESUS say this . When the desciples realized that the jews were offended at HIS saying , they came up to him and told him , Master dont you realize your saying offended them . Notice what JESUS does not tell simeon . HE did not then turn to siemon and say , OH peter , man that didnt sound very loving did it . HERE , why dont you go to them and ask them what words i can say to them that can help LOVE THEM TO ME , TO GOD . NOPE . JESUS said this instead . LEAVE THEM BE, every plant that MY father has not planted shall be ROOTED Up , aka DESTROYED . JESUS never tried to pander his message to somehow sooth the ears of any group he talked too . HE just spoke truth and if they recieved it amen but if not, HE MOVED ON . Now we go to peter next . Watch his rebuke to simoeon . Simeon has just offered up money to give to them , so he could have that same power . Simeon did not respond with . HEY , Now simeon , DADDY GOD does not operate like that , Here give me a hug , all is well , just dont do that no more . NO , this was Peters rebuke ...But peter turned to simeon and said , YOUR MONEY PERISH WITH YOU (wow )because you Thought the gift of GOD could be purchased with money . Your heart is NOT RIGHT ( oh no peters judging , todays men say we cant KNOW thier heart ) Your HEART is not RIGHT in the SIGHT OF GOD . REPENT (oh dear theres the R word again )therefore of this thy wickedness ,and pray GOD , IF perhaps the thoughts of your heart may be forgiven you . For i percieve that you are in the gall of bitterness , and the bondage of inquity . Okay . lets go to paul and his appraoch towards a false one who trying to lead the deputy away from the true faith . Watch closley . THEN sual , who is paul , FILLED with , THE HOLYGHOST (so we know What SPIRIT these words came from ) set his eyes upon him and said , OF full of all subtility and all mischief , thou child of THE DEVIL (paulstop you are hater , this wont win love them to god says this generation ) thou ENEMY of all RIGHTEOUSNESS , will you not cease too pervert the rights ways of the LORD . and now behold the hand OF THE LORD is upon you and you will be blind for a season . and so he was . Now we go onto james . YE ADULTERERS and ADULTERESSES ( todays folks would say , JAMES ye hater , you accuser ofthe brethren , this is not love , you need JESUS for GOD is love ) Dont you know that friendship with the world is enmity with GOD , therefore who so ever will be a friend of the world ISS the ENEMY Of god . Dont sound like james was in it for world peace false love and fake unity . Now lets take a peek at jude , WOE unto them , for they have gone in the way of cain and ran Greedily after the error of balim for rewaqrd and perished in the gainsaying of core . These are SPOTS in your feasts , feeding themselves without Fear , clouds they are Without water , carried about by winds , trees whose fruit withers , TWICE dead plucked up by the roots . Today that would be seen as accusations and hatered . and many would say , jude you need JESUS , GOD IS LOVE MAN , this wont win anyone to GOD talking like that . DO WE see a problem yet anyone . anyone . AND we aint even touched hardly anything of what they all said , let alone what GOD tells churches from heaven in revelation . Folks today have learned a new way to evangelize , which is death . THey wont correct and judge those who do . We in trouble my friends . I am not the hater mean ugly monster ,nor the son of perditon , nor the anti christ , as i havebeen called . NOPE i am just doing as THE SPIRIT bids me do .
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Post by John on Sept 10, 2020 10:30:19 GMT -5
I feel like this is a different subject from the thread it was in, but important, especially given the real Bible examples frienduff brings. We need to look at this, because today's church rarely operates this way,
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Post by bethany on Sept 10, 2020 11:23:43 GMT -5
all these axamples are to those who are in a position to know better, not the new lambs of the flock.
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Post by frienduff on Sept 10, 2020 13:09:15 GMT -5
I feel like this is a different subject from the thread it was in, but important, especially given the real Bible examples frienduff brings. We need to look at this, because today's church rarely operates this way,
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Post by frienduff on Sept 10, 2020 13:17:28 GMT -5
all these axamples are to those who are in a position to know better, not the new lambs of the flock.
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Post by frienduff on Sept 10, 2020 13:18:26 GMT -5
OH dear , may john prove me wrong and stand and say , BIBLES ONLY . SAY IT . AND LET USGROW in JESUS
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Post by John on Sept 10, 2020 14:13:58 GMT -5
OH dear , may john prove me wrong and stand and say , BIBLES ONLY . SAY IT . AND LET USGROW in JESUS I am seeing 2 things here. I have already agreed with your OP, and I also agree that these warnings are to everyone, young and old alike. I went so far as to endorse what you said and call it important, and I was going to like another of your posts, except you came in here and said I will not tell them the same thing, so few will. All I have done of late is call on people to Repent. I came against everything from being lukewarm to denying the Lord and being ashamed of him, as well as unforgiveness, and said those things will keep you out of heaven. I would bet you are the only person here that thinks I am a softy that needs to stop being so timid and preach harder.
As for what you are saying here, I would be false to say that. Sorry, I cannot do it, because God says in that Bible that he has placed ministers in place to teach and preach His word. I share your concern about all the false ones out there, and we all need to be extra careful who we listen to, but to say Bible's only, is not Biblical. What I will do is call on everyone to spend time reading the Bible so they will recognize false messages when they hear them.
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Post by PG4Him on Sept 10, 2020 14:29:25 GMT -5
Believe it or not, Frienduff is a softie compared to my dad. In the house I grew up in, Elijah and Jeremiah were the primary role models. Everything we did was wicked. Every complaint we made was witchcraft because rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft. My dad made us skip dinner if our chores weren't done because "those who don't work can't eat." Out of 9 of us kids, there are 2 who serve Jesus.
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Post by John on Sept 10, 2020 14:36:37 GMT -5
Believe it or not, Frienduff is a softie compared to my dad. In the house I grew up in, Elijah and Jeremiah were the primary role models. Everything we did was wicked. Every complaint we made was witchcraft because rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft. My dad made us skip dinner if our chores weren't done because "those who don't work can't eat." Out of 9 of us kids, there are 2 who serve Jesus. I just do not know what in the world he is complaining about with me? Maybe I did not respond quick enough, because I was looking at a video, and that was taken to mean I agreed with what was said, that this was the wrong form of rebuke for new Christians, but I already endorsed his OP.
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Post by PG4Him on Sept 10, 2020 14:53:57 GMT -5
Believe it or not, Frienduff is a softie compared to my dad. In the house I grew up in, Elijah and Jeremiah were the primary role models. Everything we did was wicked. Every complaint we made was witchcraft because rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft. My dad made us skip dinner if our chores weren't done because "those who don't work can't eat." Out of 9 of us kids, there are 2 who serve Jesus. I just do not know what in the world he is complaining about with me? Maybe I did not respond quick enough, because I was looking at a video, and that was taken to mean I agreed with what was said, that this was the wrong form of rebuke for new Christians, but I already endorsed his OP.
Yeah I'm not sure why he thought attacking you would help his cause. Frienduff brother maybe you need a nap. You've been extra touchy.
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Post by frienduff on Sept 10, 2020 15:25:36 GMT -5
OH dear , may john prove me wrong and stand and say , BIBLES ONLY . SAY IT . AND LET USGROW in JESUS I am seeing 2 things here. I have already agreed with your OP, and I also agree that these warnings are to everyone, young and old alike. I went so far as to endorse what you said and call it important, and I was going to like another of your posts, except you came in here and said I will not tell them the same thing, so few will. All I have done of late is call on people to Repent. I came against everything from being lukewarm to denying the Lord and being ashamed of him, as well as unforgiveness, and said those things will keep you out of heaven. I would bet you are the only person here that thinks I am a softy that needs to stop being so timid and preach harder.
As for what you are saying here, I would be false to say that. Sorry, I cannot do it, because God says in that Bible that he has placed ministers in place to teach and preach His word. I share your concern about all the false ones out there, and we all need to be extra careful who we listen to, but to say Bible's only, is not Biblical. What I will do is call on everyone to spend time reading the Bible so they will recognize false messages when they hear them.
It was such a plea of desperation i forgot how it must have sounded . Often times when i make a plea i am looking at a much larger picture . I was looking too far ahead my friend . I am so sorry . You wont understand this . But my time is up here on this forum . I wish i could tell you things were going to head in the right direction . But i can see clearly they will not . Its just too hard for me to continue on my friend . DO be encouraged wherever i go and will by grace point to JESUS . AND i will always pray for you my friend . Just make sure you get them in the bible . Hold the fort down my friend . But i must move on . its simply what i must do . You can keep me as adminstrator or just start fresh as remove it all . Keep in the bible . Always do that . Be blessed my friend . Lord willing in time i might be back . But either way always watch out for emotions . ALWAYS focus on the bible . You all are loved . Good by my friends and my friend . For now at least .
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Post by John on Sept 10, 2020 15:35:00 GMT -5
I am seeing 2 things here. I have already agreed with your OP, and I also agree that these warnings are to everyone, young and old alike. I went so far as to endorse what you said and call it important, and I was going to like another of your posts, except you came in here and said I will not tell them the same thing, so few will. All I have done of late is call on people to Repent. I came against everything from being lukewarm to denying the Lord and being ashamed of him, as well as unforgiveness, and said those things will keep you out of heaven. I would bet you are the only person here that thinks I am a softy that needs to stop being so timid and preach harder.
As for what you are saying here, I would be false to say that. Sorry, I cannot do it, because God says in that Bible that he has placed ministers in place to teach and preach His word. I share your concern about all the false ones out there, and we all need to be extra careful who we listen to, but to say Bible's only, is not Biblical. What I will do is call on everyone to spend time reading the Bible so they will recognize false messages when they hear them.
It was such a plea of desperation i forgot how it must have sounded . Often times when i make a plea i am looking at a much larger picture . I was looking too far ahead my friend . I am so sorry . You wont understand this . But my time is up here on this forum . I wish i could tell you things were going to head in the right direction . But i can see clearly they will not . Its just too hard for me to continue on my friend . DO be encouraged wherever i go and will by grace point to JESUS . AND i will always pray for you my friend . Just make sure you get them in the bible . Hold the fort down my friend . But i must move on . its simply what i must do . You can keep me as adminstrator or just start fresh as remove it all . Keep in the bible . Always do that . Be blessed my friend . Lord willing in time i might be back . But either way always watch out for emotions . ALWAYS focus on the bible . You all are loved . Good by my friends and my friend . For now at least . Are you leaving the internet? Send a pm at least so I know what is going on.
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Post by bethany on Sept 10, 2020 15:41:08 GMT -5
all these axamples are to those who are in a position to know better, not the new lambs of the flock. John wont tell you this . so few will . BUT I PROMISE all those examples are to US ALL . You are wrong on this . THE EXAMPLES in the bible . THEY FOR LAMBS PEROID . DO not let your mind or men sway ortell you otherwise . ON day one , day one . say it with me . DAY ONE the first day i was drawn to JESUS . EVERY WORD IN THAT BIBLE was FOR ME and for my good . OHdear , JOHN rise up , houses must be cleaned . IF you and others would support me on this , they MIGHT HEAR. BUT no matter if i be left on my own with none to help me , cast out and seen as a hater . I WILL DIE before i follow my own mind and men . ITS BIBLE FOR ME . PEROID I dont know what your problem is, or if its just the way you express yourself, but I dont need to be shouted at to read my bible. I dont need to be told to return to my bible, I havent stopped reading it. Stop judging me and my bible reading. Stop saying I need to return to scripture, as if I have left it. You dont know me or my spirituality. Have you considered you may be wrong sometimes? I am sorry to be harsh with you, but your way of addressing me is really annoying and upsetting me. I dont need to be talked down to, and treated like I am going outside scripture to look for answers. You do what you think is right, and stop judging others.
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Post by John on Sept 10, 2020 15:52:17 GMT -5
John wont tell you this . so few will . BUT I PROMISE all those examples are to US ALL . You are wrong on this . THE EXAMPLES in the bible . THEY FOR LAMBS PEROID . DO not let your mind or men sway ortell you otherwise . ON day one , day one . say it with me . DAY ONE the first day i was drawn to JESUS . EVERY WORD IN THAT BIBLE was FOR ME and for my good . OHdear , JOHN rise up , houses must be cleaned . IF you and others would support me on this , they MIGHT HEAR. BUT no matter if i be left on my own with none to help me , cast out and seen as a hater . I WILL DIE before i follow my own mind and men . ITS BIBLE FOR ME . PEROID I dont know what your problem is, or if its just the way you express yourself, but I dont need to be shouted at to read my bible. I dont need to be told to return to my bible, I havent stopped reading it. Stop judging me and my bible reading. Stop saying I need to return to scripture, as if I have left it. You dont know me or my spirituality. Have you considered you may be wrong sometimes? I am sorry to be harsh with you, but your way of addressing me is really annoying and upsetting me. I dont need to be talked down to, and treated like I am going outside scripture to look for answers. You do what you think is right, and stop judging others. I know he means well, but he is getting a bit paranoid, partly because of past experiences.
frienduff , whether you are here or not, we stand on the Bible, but you need to let me know what is going on?
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Post by Tabitha3319 on Sept 10, 2020 15:57:03 GMT -5
I am seeing 2 things here. I have already agreed with your OP, and I also agree that these warnings are to everyone, young and old alike. I went so far as to endorse what you said and call it important, and I was going to like another of your posts, except you came in here and said I will not tell them the same thing, so few will. All I have done of late is call on people to Repent. I came against everything from being lukewarm to denying the Lord and being ashamed of him, as well as unforgiveness, and said those things will keep you out of heaven. I would bet you are the only person here that thinks I am a softy that needs to stop being so timid and preach harder.
As for what you are saying here, I would be false to say that. Sorry, I cannot do it, because God says in that Bible that he has placed ministers in place to teach and preach His word. I share your concern about all the false ones out there, and we all need to be extra careful who we listen to, but to say Bible's only, is not Biblical. What I will do is call on everyone to spend time reading the Bible so they will recognize false messages when they hear them.
It was such a plea of desperation i forgot how it must have sounded . Often times when i make a plea i am looking at a much larger picture . I was looking too far ahead my friend . I am so sorry . You wont understand this . But my time is up here on this forum . I wish i could tell you things were going to head in the right direction . But i can see clearly they will not . Its just too hard for me to continue on my friend . DO be encouraged wherever i go and will by grace point to JESUS . AND i will always pray for you my friend . Just make sure you get them in the bible . Hold the fort down my friend . But i must move on . its simply what i must do . You can keep me as adminstrator or just start fresh as remove it all . Keep in the bible . Always do that . Be blessed my friend . Lord willing in time i might be back . But either way always watch out for emotions . ALWAYS focus on the bible . You all are loved . Good by my friends and my friend . For now at least . Wait, you're leaving the forum?
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