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Post by John on Oct 25, 2020 17:13:38 GMT -5
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Cletus
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Post by Cletus on Oct 25, 2020 20:50:31 GMT -5
here is my favorite definition speaking to a military occupation:
control and possession of hostile territory that enables an invading nation to establish military government against an enemy or martial law against rebels or insurrectionists in its own territory.
meditate on that definition. oh its rich.
Romans 3:31b
very good video John!
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Post by frienduff on Oct 26, 2020 10:37:38 GMT -5
And that is what the lambs must do cletus . Paul and the others did it . THEY gaurded the flocks against ANY KIND of any entrance of leaven . The lambs must feed only on pure bible doctrine and keep anything , any lie which contradicts it , far from the people . IF any leaven , if any error , which is a breach of the enemy does come within the flocks , The true lambs who are spiritual must correct it asap . As it was written by one of the apostels , ABSTAIN from ALL appearance of evil . ITS a war my friends . And leaven is deadly , no matter how small it starts . IT will leaven the whole lump , IF IT IS NOT CORRECTED .
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Post by frienduff on Oct 26, 2020 10:44:08 GMT -5
For those of us WHO are in CHRIST we must double down and NOW . WE must truly examine to see if one walks in the true faith of JESUS . SO anyone you know , you make sure to ask them IF THEY TRULY believe that JESUS must be beleived on and confessed in order to be saved . IF anyone even begins to think well maybe some in other religoins might be , SHUT IT DOWN . Its a lie . ONLY THOSE IN JESUS , WHO have confessed HIM and are HEARERS and DOERS OF the word , ARE saved , and only IF they continue in HIM faithful to the end . FOR we are made partakers of Christ , IF we hold our confidence IN HIM , Firm to the end . AND we better all be fully persauded that IF one does not believe in Christ , THEN THEY AER NOT saved PEROID . WE must keep the faith in JESUS firm to the end and let none be moved away by a false hope , a false love , a lie . THIS will be our biggest battle . The lie has crept into so many churches . The lambs must go to defend the truth , the true faith that was once delivered unto the saints . But you will not be loved by many for doing this . Most will attack you as though you do not know GOD , you do not know love , that you are ONE MINDED , CLOSED MINDED , HATERS and etc . JOHN is already seeing this at another site . I SEEN it in them my friend long ago . The inclusive spirit is already in them my friend . OH it might be worse in some , but its in them my friend . This love spell of inclusivness is in them . Even in the conservatives as well .
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Post by John on Oct 26, 2020 13:14:29 GMT -5
For those of us WHO are in CHRIST we must double down and NOW . WE must truly examine to see if one walks in the true faith of JESUS . SO anyone you know , you make sure to ask them IF THEY TRULY believe that JESUS must be beleived on and confessed in order to be saved . IF anyone even begins to think well maybe some in other religoins might be , SHUT IT DOWN . Its a lie . ONLY THOSE IN JESUS , WHO have confessed HIM and are HEARERS and DOERS OF the word , ARE saved , and only IF they continue in HIM faithful to the end . FOR we are made partakers of Christ , IF we hold our confidence IN HIM , Firm to the end . AND we better all be fully persauded that IF one does not believe in Christ , THEN THEY AER NOT saved PEROID . WE must keep the faith in JESUS firm to the end and let none be moved away by a false hope , a false love , a lie . THIS will be our biggest battle . The lie has crept into so many churches . The lambs must go to defend the truth , the true faith that was once delivered unto the saints . But you will not be loved by many for doing this . Most will attack you as though you do not know GOD , you do not know love , that you are ONE MINDED , CLOSED MINDED , HATERS and etc . JOHN is already seeing this at another site . I SEEN it in them my friend long ago . The inclusive spirit is already in them my friend . OH it might be worse in some , but its in them my friend . This love spell of inclusivness is in them . Even in the conservatives as well . Much of what we are dealing with at places like that are self-willed people who teach a lie to control others. They promise liberty but give them bondage. I believe many of them know better, but they have an agenda.
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Post by Tabitha3319 on Oct 26, 2020 14:28:32 GMT -5
In America, I think Christians have gotten complacent in thinking we shouldn't mix religion and politics because for a long time it's been socially acceptable to be a Christian.
There's no question that politics affects believers in places like China or Nigeria.
Since the left wing is pushing legislation to persecute us, we can't afford to be complacent.
We have to reach people and be salt and light in American society.
I especially liked what you said about not being content with ground already taken.
We've got to push back on these things.
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Oct 27, 2020 6:12:44 GMT -5
Post by watchful on Oct 27, 2020 6:12:44 GMT -5
Amen to the first part of what you are saying brother John, it is for sure talking about being occupied with the business of God’s kingdom, and being busy with the things of His kingdom.
Here is some wisdom that just came, not my wisdom but the Lord’s, and I’m just passing it along for all our benefit. Institutional religion and institutional education systems exist to indoctrinate the people to be the kind of citizens that the state requires to keep going, to keep enriching and empowering the state and its leaders. For example in England when the rich needed/wanted virtual slave labour in the form of servants (17 hour days, with seldom even an afternoon off) the institutional churches preached in a way that encouraged and made it seem noble for people to remain in servitude and submit to their masters rather than try to improve their lot in life; when North America needed many factory and assembly line workers the education system reflected this to prepare the young for that role, they were not taught to think for themselves. When a military power and nation needs a lot of soldiers the institutions will likewise indoctrinate the young on the glories and obligation of being a warrior and fighting for the state (how many of the nation's industry barons have been enriched through war). This has all been very strong in America, under the guise of patriotism and duty, and some of my dear American neighbours and siblings in Christ might need to consider whether they need to have their minds renewed and cleansed of all such indoctrinations by the word and truth of Christ, and to extricate one's mind from what has really been of man and the flesh, and not of Christ.
The call to “come out of her” (Babylon/the world and her false religion) is not just for the last days church….these things are always a reality of how the enemy and flesh infiltrates the church and wages war against the truth. Even Israel of old was called to “come out of her” as well. Jesus said unequivocably that we cannot serve two masters….we are not to have one foot in the world and one foot in the kingdom of God.
Jhn 8:23
And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.
Rom 12:2
And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
Mar 4:19
And the cares of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things entering in, choke the word, and it becometh unfruitful.
Jhn 18:35-36
Pilate answered, Am I a Jew? Thine own nation and the chief priests have delivered thee unto me: what hast thou done?
Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.
2Ti 2:4
No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.
Heb 11:13
These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.
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Occupy
Oct 28, 2020 7:03:13 GMT -5
Post by watchful on Oct 28, 2020 7:03:13 GMT -5
Please dont' think I'm taking a poke at America, I spent some time in America when i was young and have a God given love for the people of your nation.....went back for a visit about ten years ago and my heart burned with love and concern. My oldest son's father was an American Viet Nam war vet (passed away a couple of years ago). There's no doubt in my mind about the love of God for you all. And we in Canada have our own problems...we've been really badly and heavily influenced by political correctness in schools and churches, and in America they were indoctrinated in patriotism, militarism and political activism by those institutions.
But see how mystery Babylon is in bed with the beast state (world kingdom) and supports it....the kingdoms of this world are under Satan's rule, the prince of this world....and how that has always gone on? And why the faithful have always been called to come out of her (Babylon) even in Old Testament times? In places like China there is a literal state approved 'Christian' church with state approve teachings, and that is an obvious example (to us but not to those who are in it), and the devil has been way more subtle about it in other places and times and that is why it is a mystery…it’s hidden, the mystery of iniquity. Anyway brothers and sisters, I hope we will all prayerfully consider these things. Whatever our particular set of indoctrinations where we lived and grew up, we need to have our minds renewed to the pure truth of Christ. I spent so many years as a believer confused by the political correctness I had been indoctrinated with from all sides, and it has taken many years to cleanse my mind of it, with still more to go. Preaching to myself too....we can’t serve two masters….we will love the one and hate the other…we are not to be double-minded and be of two opinions. We need to choose we this day who we will serve, either the Lord is God, or Baal, but not both at the same time and trying to serve Baal in the name of God. May the Lord bless and help us all.
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Occupy
Oct 28, 2020 12:30:19 GMT -5
Post by John on Oct 28, 2020 12:30:19 GMT -5
In America, I think Christians have gotten complacent in thinking we shouldn't mix religion and politics because for a long time it's been socially acceptable to be a Christian. There's no question that politics affects believers in places like China or Nigeria. Since the left wing is pushing legislation to persecute us, we can't afford to be complacent. We have to reach people and be salt and light in American society. I especially liked what you said about not being content with ground already taken. We've got to push back on these things. Thank you Tabitha. The devil prefers to keep marching forward without opposition, but can handle us slowing him down. If we are taking ground from him, it is all out war.
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Post by Giller on Oct 28, 2020 12:41:44 GMT -5
I have not listened to the video yet, but will have to take time sometime down the road.
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Post by ohhello on Oct 28, 2020 15:14:33 GMT -5
Good video John and a good talk. You covered a lot of ground and you are very good at making folks think have we got this right with the Lord. Let’s go read that bible again and check. Thank you for taking the time to record that and for sharing it. I hope you weren’t driving the truck at the same time. God bless. You are prayed for.
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Post by John on Oct 28, 2020 15:48:46 GMT -5
Good video John and a good talk. You covered a lot of ground and you are very good at making folks think have we got this right with the Lord. Let’s go read that bible again and check. Thank you for taking the time to record that and for sharing it. I hope you weren’t driving the truck at the same time. God bless. You are prayed for. Thank you. I was in a motel room. I could not have done that while driving.
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Occupy
Oct 29, 2020 15:32:02 GMT -5
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Post by frienduff on Oct 29, 2020 15:32:02 GMT -5
For those of us WHO are in CHRIST we must double down and NOW . WE must truly examine to see if one walks in the true faith of JESUS . SO anyone you know , you make sure to ask them IF THEY TRULY believe that JESUS must be beleived on and confessed in order to be saved . IF anyone even begins to think well maybe some in other religoins might be , SHUT IT DOWN . Its a lie . ONLY THOSE IN JESUS , WHO have confessed HIM and are HEARERS and DOERS OF the word , ARE saved , and only IF they continue in HIM faithful to the end . FOR we are made partakers of Christ , IF we hold our confidence IN HIM , Firm to the end . AND we better all be fully persauded that IF one does not believe in Christ , THEN THEY AER NOT saved PEROID . WE must keep the faith in JESUS firm to the end and let none be moved away by a false hope , a false love , a lie . THIS will be our biggest battle . The lie has crept into so many churches . The lambs must go to defend the truth , the true faith that was once delivered unto the saints . But you will not be loved by many for doing this . Most will attack you as though you do not know GOD , you do not know love , that you are ONE MINDED , CLOSED MINDED , HATERS and etc . JOHN is already seeing this at another site . I SEEN it in them my friend long ago . The inclusive spirit is already in them my friend . OH it might be worse in some , but its in them my friend . This love spell of inclusivness is in them . Even in the conservatives as well . Much of what we are dealing with at places like that are self-willed people who teach a lie to control others. They promise liberty but give them bondage. I believe many of them know better, but they have an agenda.
And we know a lie is bondage . WE know their liberty is only for an occasion to serve the flesh , yet , yes john they are in bondage to sin .
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