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Post by watchful on Oct 29, 2020 6:15:25 GMT -5
Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die it abideth alone, but if it die it produces a crop....a spiritual crop, because it has been resurrected. The Father has to look away, as it were, in order to allow what is not of Him in us to die. If the Father had not briefly looked away His Son could not have died on the Cross. Jesus had no sin, but in our case during such times things come to the surface in us, into the light, in order for them to be dealt with, repented of, forsaken and cleansed from our hearts. Think it not strange then, when we go through such a time of a dry desert season, of feeling forsaken....during such times the Lord is working unseen and our roots are by necessity being forced deeper in Him to find living water in Him alone and not deceptive waters (mirage) of the dry dust of the world and flesh. If we hate our life in this world we will find it. THE HOUR of ISOLATION -by David Wilkerson. I know what it is like to face divine silence, not to hear God´s voice for a season. I have walked through periods of total confusion with no apparent guidance, the still small voice behind me completely silent. There were times when I had no friend nearby to satisfy my heart with a word of advice. All my patterns of guidance from before had gone awry, and I was left in total darkness. I could not see my way, and I made mistake after mistake. I wanted to say, "O God, what has happened? I don´t know which way to go!" Does God really hide his face from those he loves? Isn´t it possible he lifts his hand for a short while to teach us trust and dependence? The Bible answers clearly: "God left him [Hezekiah], to try him,
that he might know all that was in his heart" (2 Chronicles 32:31). You may be going through a flood of trials right now. You know what I´m talking about when I say the heavens are as brass. You know all about repeated failures. You´ve waited and waited for answers to prayer. You´ve been served a cup of affliction. Nothing and nobody can touch that need in your heart! That´s the time to take your stand! You don´t have to be able to laugh or rejoice, because you may not have any happiness at the moment. In fact, you may have nothing but turmoil in your soul. But you can know God is still with you, because Scripture says, "The Lord sitteth upon the flood; yea, the Lord sitteth King for ever" (Psalm 29:10). Soon you will hear His voice: Don´t get excited, don´t panic. Just keep your eyes on me. Commit all things to me. And you will know that you remain the object of his incredible love. SOURCE - www.worldchallenge.org/en/node/10848
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Post by Tabitha3319 on Oct 29, 2020 12:49:54 GMT -5
Amen!
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Post by frienduff on Oct 29, 2020 15:12:59 GMT -5
Just wait till the body is afflicted . GO to job sister . FIRST job lost what surrounded him . THEN he felt skin for skin . Just wait . See in many the trap is the mind . Because the mind is not stable . IT thus can see an affliction as just something it did not obtain . aka money or comforts . Which of course means that mind is unstable . But there is a truth . Imagine if , BY THE HOLY GRACE OF GOD , a mind has already been changed . IT desires not the things of the world . YET , it needs still a closer walker with GOD . GOD allows ONLY WHAT IS BEST FOR US . Imagine if for over a year you had pain , suffering . That sounds kind of rough . BUT IMAGINE if even that was simply drawing you closer to GOD . Most folks would weep for a man i know . That man i speak of lives far below what is known in america as the lower class . That man has continual and daily pain too . BUT I TELL US ALL , that man IS RICH and has all hope . JESUS IS ALL WE NEED . LET this life throw what it will , SO LONG AS WE have JESUS , THEN JESUS IS ALL WE NEED .
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Post by watchful on Oct 30, 2020 8:31:06 GMT -5
Just wait till the body is afflicted . GO to job sister . FIRST job lost what surrounded him . THEN he felt skin for skin . Just wait . See in many the trap is the mind . Because the mind is not stable . IT thus can see an affliction as just something it did not obtain . aka money or comforts . Which of course means that mind is unstable . But there is a truth . Imagine if , BY THE HOLY GRACE OF GOD , a mind has already been changed . IT desires not the things of the world . YET , it needs still a closer walker with GOD . GOD allows ONLY WHAT IS BEST FOR US . Imagine if for over a year you had pain , suffering . That sounds kind of rough . BUT IMAGINE if even that was simply drawing you closer to GOD . Most folks would weep for a man i know . That man i speak of lives far below what is known in america as the lower class . That man has continual and daily pain too . BUT I TELL US ALL , that man IS RICH and has all hope . JESUS IS ALL WE NEED . LET this life throw what it will , SO LONG AS WE have JESUS , THEN JESUS IS ALL WE NEED . Dear brother, as I'm sure we all can see in life, we each suffer in our own different ways for reasons known to the Lord, and I hope that man will be encouraged. Just living in a fallen world brings pain in itself, and the bible says time and chance happen to us all. But for us as believers we can consider that everything comes through the Cross in the foreknowledge of God and is tailor made for each individual in His will and wisdom. Our Physician is very precise when He is doing "heart surgery". Amen, I agree with you that not everything everyone perceives as painful is because the devil is persecuting us per se, but much of it is....the devil desiring to sift us in order to accuse and find fault....it seems to be his backhanded way of accusing God for choosing the weak things of the world while rejecting him....we are hated by the devil for God's sake. So the Lord works it all together for our good and His glory. Well, whatever the case, whatever the reasons.....the things we experience, whether emotional or mental torment, or desires denied, or physical pain and problems, we are learning from it all and dying to ourselves....learning to trust the Lord by faith and not by sight, and it draws us closer to Him, as you said, while it purges and cleanses our hearts....it's working for us a greater weight of glory that far outweighs whatever we go through in this life. When we experience the goodness and faithfulness and mercy of the Lord through these things and it gives us hope in Him, not in ourselves but in Him (because we also learn of our weakness, as well as His sufficiency, in the trials). We may feel forsaken at times, or for a season, but we learn in the end more of how faithful and merciful our Saviour is, and that He was holding onto us unseen and unfelt while He dipped us into the refining fire.
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Post by watchful on Oct 30, 2020 10:30:11 GMT -5
Want to say, on the subject of suffering, that we can't compare one person's suffering with another, we just can't....that would be like comparing apples and oranges for a whole tapestry of reasons. We can't belittle or negate someone else's suffering because we assume that what we are suffering is worse. What constitutes anguish for one person might be a walk in the park for another and vice versa. I expect Job suffered the way he did because that is what he needed, and I expect that is true of all of us however we suffer. God knows what each soul needs, and the Potter knows what his goal is for each kind of vessel that he is making too.
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Post by watchful on Oct 30, 2020 11:17:29 GMT -5
If we have only a little strength, it is because of the grace of God, praise the Lord. If we have great strength it is only because of His grace, and praise His name. Whether the greatest or the least in the kingdom, one thing is for sure, we will all know how small we are when we see Him, and lay our crowns at His feet.
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Post by frienduff on Oct 30, 2020 14:03:46 GMT -5
If we have only a little strength, it is because of the grace of God, praise the Lord. If we have great strength it is only because of His grace, and praise His name. Whether the greatest or the least in the kingdom, one thing is for sure, we will all know how small we are when we see Him, and lay our crowns at His feet. The true beauty , the true pure truth , the simplicity of it all , is when we , or I , plural pronoun or singular pronoun , When the pronoun becomes HE , not us , HE , not I BUT HE is our strength , that mind is free . THE HE as IN GOD . So lets rewrite what my dear loved sister just wrote . AND I BET SHE AGREES TOO . IF we have only a little strength , or if we recognize we have NO strength , Just remember , MY , as in HIS , strength is made perfect in weakness . THEREFORE let the lambs learn , persectuions and trials , afflictions and harships are for our good . FOR WHEN WE seem weak , IT IS THEN the LORD WORKS IN US HIS GRACE . PAUL KNEW IT . HE KNEW IT . HE said therefore i REJOICE in my INFIRMITIES , because when i am made weak , AKA persecuted , afflicted , loss , suffering , hardships , THEN , BY HIS grace i am made strong . MY GRACE , aka HIS GRACE , is made perfect IN WEAKNESS . NOW paul had a serious thorn he had prayed about , asked GOD to remove that suffering , YET GOD had told HIM , MY GRACE IS , what IS sufficeint for THEE . OUR PROSPERITY and EASY TIME CHARLATONS , have FAILED THE CHURCH . BUT GOD IS IN HIS MERCY , Working on the lambs . TODAY i want you and everyone else to go ask three folks this one simple thing . And you watch the answers . Not a one of them charaltons will give you the right answer . THEY TOO BUSY exalting they ownselves , PRAYING FOR da money and easy times , yet think they KNOW or even have THE POWER Of GOD . PAUL KNEW . HE had to learn it , BUT HE KNEW . THEREFORE I REJOICE , in what , easy times , money , NOPE , I REJOICE IN MY INFIRMITIES , HIS HARD TIMES , HIS LOSS , HIS SUFFERING FOR THE KING HIS AFFLICTIONS . CAUSE WHEN WE ARE WEAK , GLORY TO GOD , THEN WE ARE STRONG . Paul really was no phony . TODAY i cant find a true one amongst the mainstream churches . BUT PAUL was NO PHONY .
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Post by frienduff on Oct 30, 2020 14:09:49 GMT -5
If we have only a little strength, it is because of the grace of God, praise the Lord. If we have great strength it is only because of His grace, and praise His name. Whether the greatest or the least in the kingdom, one thing is for sure, we will all know how small we are when we see Him, and lay our crowns at His feet. OH we better also know HOW SMALL WE ARE RIGHT NOW . OR we wont be LAYING no crowns at HIS FEET . But fallling head long into a lake of fire on that day . AS you well know sister . I know what you were trying to get out . BUT i just remind us , WE AINT THE POWER , WE AINT A THING . BUT GOD IS . AND IF WE CLING TO HIM and KNOW THAT THEN we have as we need for whatever we go through . You know i am at war with them charlatons sister . AND IT aint because i want them n hell . I just dont want one lamb anyone near them phonies . OH i do pray they repent and fast . FOR IF they remain their road , that road will lead them to one place . No matter how pretty and well decked the road seemed in this life , ITS END IS A STRAIGHT DROP OFF , RIGHT INTO , THE LAKE OF FIRE .
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Post by watchful on Oct 30, 2020 15:43:08 GMT -5
If we have only a little strength, it is because of the grace of God, praise the Lord. If we have great strength it is only because of His grace, and praise His name. Whether the greatest or the least in the kingdom, one thing is for sure, we will all know how small we are when we see Him, and lay our crowns at His feet. OH we better also know HOW SMALL WE ARE RIGHT NOW . OR we wont be LAYING no crowns at HIS FEET . But fallling head long into a lake of fire on that day . AS you well know sister . I know what you were trying to get out . BUT i just remind us , WE AINT THE POWER , WE AINT A THING . BUT GOD IS . AND IF WE CLING TO HIM and KNOW THAT THEN we have as we need for whatever we go through . You know i am at war with them charlatons sister . AND IT aint because i want them n hell . I just dont want one lamb anyone near them phonies . OH i do pray they repent and fast . FOR IF they remain their road , that road will lead them to one place . No matter how pretty and well decked the road seemed in this life , ITS END IS A STRAIGHT DROP OFF , RIGHT INTO , THE LAKE OF FIRE . Amen brother. Or at least that we learn it before that day. It's hard to imagine charlatans beating their breast and saying Lord have mercy on me a sinner. Some of those false ones would say, oh but we are not sinners any longer. But then what do they do about the scripture which says if we say we have no sin we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. And there are good reasons why we are to examine ourselves before eating the Lord's supper. We're all works in progress, praise the Lord for His mercy and grace and longsuffering, we need it every hour of every day.
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Post by frienduff on Oct 30, 2020 16:54:01 GMT -5
Sing to the glorious King my friends . We need HIM at all times . Praise the LORD .
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Post by frienduff on Oct 31, 2020 9:38:26 GMT -5
OH we better also know HOW SMALL WE ARE RIGHT NOW . OR we wont be LAYING no crowns at HIS FEET . But fallling head long into a lake of fire on that day . AS you well know sister . I know what you were trying to get out . BUT i just remind us , WE AINT THE POWER , WE AINT A THING . BUT GOD IS . AND IF WE CLING TO HIM and KNOW THAT THEN we have as we need for whatever we go through . You know i am at war with them charlatons sister . AND IT aint because i want them n hell . I just dont want one lamb anyone near them phonies . OH i do pray they repent and fast . FOR IF they remain their road , that road will lead them to one place . No matter how pretty and well decked the road seemed in this life , ITS END IS A STRAIGHT DROP OFF , RIGHT INTO , THE LAKE OF FIRE . Amen brother. Or at least that we learn it before that day. It's hard to imagine charlatans beating their breast and saying Lord have mercy on me a sinner. Some of those false ones would say, oh but we are not sinners any longer. But then what do they do about the scripture which says if we say we have no sin we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. And there are good reasons why we are to examine ourselves before eating the Lord's supper. We're all works in progress, praise the Lord for His mercy and grace and longsuffering, we need it every hour of every day. You said its hard for charlatans to beat their breasts and say LORD have mercy upon me a sinner . That is truth . ONLY let it be read like this . For i have seen many charlatans who constantly beat their breasts in PRETENCE before their flocks , as though they truly mean this , and yet live OFF the church and walk in sin and even encourage others to walk in sin . But they do as they do to be seen of men and to deceive the flocks they teach and Lord over . Yeah , it sure is hard to imagine that sister . They can call themselves by His name , holler some truths , and yes many lies , and yet even when they speak some truths , DO NOT as THEY DO . FOR they holler some truths , BUT they dont really even believe from the heart . AN example . I seen a man who could show some pretense of humility . Yet , that same man said , I HAD TO TELL GOD to GET JESUS OUT OF MY WAY so i could get the job done .. NOW , DOES THAT EVEN SOUND humble to YOU . I mean imagine the audacity to actually believe YOU THE POWER , GOD needs to GET JESUS out of YOUR WAY , SO YOU can GET THE JOB DONE . That is about total blasphemy . And yet they try and say we are humble and GOD is the power . Fraid their actions show otherwise . Watch out for we have some highly clever ones in these days . I mean look at even this pope . It has the appearance of being more humble than most , YET it breathes out its lies as does a dragon . For with one side of its mouth , it hollers God is love , let us feed the poor , and it kisses the feet of folks and walks IN APPEARANCE but NOT HEART , as though highly humble . YET , it does it works to be seen by the cameras . IT has its reward . And it spews out evil , like saying true christains DO NOT prolesytize , they do not SPEAK WORDS , and that all religoins are children of God . ITS a deceptive one . It honors civil unions . And many protestants have been under its sway for quite some time . Beware humble men , who humble themselves to be seen of men , Yet point us to an all inclusive direction and unity with any dragon that speaks ill of the witnessing of the gosple . ITS a delusion .
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Post by frienduff on Oct 31, 2020 9:45:18 GMT -5
But ye say , HOW will we know the one who appears as a lamb yet speaks as a dragon , and HOW will we know if our leader is infected with it . WELL if anyone speaketh and calls prolesytizing evil , YE Gots you a dragon . AND if any leader comes in and begins to say things like , just live and do good unto all , YET they leave off the dire importance of preaching the gosple or down play that dire need in any way , YOU BETTER RUN LIKE YOU NEVER RAN FAR from that one . Cause from the letters i have read in that bible , and FROM What JESUS said did and taught , REST ASSURED they PUT THE GOSPLE FIRST and then did not leave undone the good works . BUT when men preach do the good works , love them to God , but do not put the DIRE NEED to tell one of JESUS FIRST , YOU BETTER RUN . CAUSE this paul did not do . When paul , stephen or others went about witnessing , did we read that they went into the synagogues of the jews and SPOKE NOTHING Of JESUS , found common ground for unity sake . HECK NO . EVERY time paul went into a synangogue , IT WAS TO CONVERT . NOT to find common ground or this so call love them to GOD STUff . LOVING ONE TO GOD , means ONLY THIS YE TELL THEM of the dire need to repent and beleive IN JESUS AND you do not leave the good works undone .
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