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Post by Tabitha3319 on Aug 8, 2022 8:11:22 GMT -5
I want you guys to check out this Bible Teacher I found on YouTube. His name is Allan Ballou I think his teaching on salvation issues are excellent.
John frienduff Les ohhello 4hizglory37 Cletus @dominic watchful
I know Im missing people to tag. But basically, I want everyone to check this out.
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Post by frienduff on Aug 8, 2022 13:49:55 GMT -5
paul also taught that if anyone who claims Christ is a fornicator or etc dont eat with such . The man forgot that part . We should warn them to repent . if they dont we dont keep company with them .
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Post by frienduff on Aug 8, 2022 14:11:43 GMT -5
A lot of folks overlook many things . Many are following another jesus , another gospel and are in dire and grave danger . The man is right on a lot of stuff . We must endure TO THE END . This is why if one does err from the truth , the lambs must do all to bring them back to convert them back . the problem is many have not the SPIRIT they have not truly submitted unto GOD . They follow another jesus and that is deadly dangerous cause that JESUS cannot save .
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Post by frienduff on Aug 8, 2022 14:12:42 GMT -5
Its simple . IF JESUS said to DO we do , if the apostels said it the same thing . ITS TIME folks open bibles and start learning that Jesus and that doctrine .
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Post by frienduff on Aug 8, 2022 14:14:48 GMT -5
Does anyone ever wonder why paul , WHO had the SPIRIT said women ought not to teach nor usurp authority over the man . Yet how many churches put women into leadership positions . We gotta keep the original pattern . Notice paul when writing to the churches said let a bishop or deacon be the HUSBAND of one wife . And notice this too . IF women were to lead and ursurp authority how come not even one apostel was a woman . Exactly . YET folks dont seem to have a problem going contrary to that doctrine . I say if the early church taught it we simply do it .
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Post by Tabitha3319 on Aug 8, 2022 16:40:00 GMT -5
paul also taught that if anyone who claims Christ is a fornicator or etc dont eat with such . The man forgot that part . We should warn them to repent . if they dont we dont keep company with them . He has another video that addresses that. Thanks for checking it out!
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Post by frienduff on Aug 8, 2022 19:22:55 GMT -5
paul also taught that if anyone who claims Christ is a fornicator or etc dont eat with such . The man forgot that part . We should warn them to repent . if they dont we dont keep company with them . He has another video that addresses that. Thanks for checking it out! Okay dear sister . I just brought it up in case anyone was thinking we are to just hang out with those who profess Christ yet live in sin . Cause paul made it very clear we are to correct . Now let all that has breath praise and thank the glorious Lord .
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Post by John on Aug 9, 2022 6:06:19 GMT -5
I will check it out Tabitha. Thank you for the recommendation.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2022 21:17:24 GMT -5
🚩 A red flag I found 🚩
Scripture says this
What? saved is actually mentioned in verses right there but he said it's not (the word saved) is not mention. Red flag to me.
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Post by John on Aug 10, 2022 9:19:35 GMT -5
The most important thing is to understand we must continue following Jesus and obeying the scriptures if we want to be saved. We must endure till the end. It is really not complicated. Trust in Jesus and obey Jesus and the teachings of the New Testament.
With regard to different churches focusing on scriptures that defend their beliefs for or against OSAS, I used to think that was happening until I realized the OSAS crowd rarely uses scripture, and when they do, it is out of context. They use other methods.
What the OSAS crowd does is claim we are preaching another gospel and accursed, when they are the ones bringing another gospel, which is not the gospel at all. Our accusers are accursed and may wind up in hell for leading people astray. They accuse us of having a works based salvation and not trusting in Jesus but in our own righteousness. We obey because we believe Jesus. Obedience shows our faith. OSAS is not a Bible based doctrine at all. One of their own false teachers admitted that when he said that if we go by the Bible, nobody would be saved.
While it is possible to lose your salvation, it is possible to endure till the end by keeping our trust in Jesus and obeying the scriptures. Again, trust in Jesus and obey Him and the scriptures. Do that, and you will one day have an inheritance in the Kingdom of God. If it were not true, Jesus would have told you so
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Post by 4hizglory37 on Aug 24, 2022 2:50:50 GMT -5
Does anyone ever wonder why paul , WHO had the SPIRIT said women ought not to teach nor usurp authority over the man . Yet how many churches put women into leadership positions . We gotta keep the original pattern . Notice paul when writing to the churches said let a bishop or deacon be the HUSBAND of one wife . And notice this too . IF women were to lead and ursurp authority how come not even one apostel was a woman . Exactly . YET folks dont seem to have a problem going contrary to that doctrine . I say if the early church taught it we simply do it . There is a church that I know that the men of the church gave the authority to preach and teach to a woman. These men refused to take the call!!! Now this church has allowed this woman to continue to preach. I went to check it out and I did not feel right in my spirit. She has had this position for some time now, and the men have no excuse to take back their God given authority to be the spiritual leaders!!! Shame on them.
I also wanted to let you all know but not had a chance to tell you that my family and I have left our church... they put a divorced man up for elder. I was praying in the morning and I heard in my spirit that I could not be the Worship leader under the authority of this man. We tried to tell the other elders and in the end they decided to offend God rather than offend man. We have been doing church at home as a family. It has been very good.
I tried to tell a friend about that situation (she goes to the church where the woman preaches) She was like, we are under grace and if he repented, it is ok. I was like NO! THIS IS NOT ABOUT REPENTING BUT GOD'S QUALIFICATIONS, HIS REQUIREMENTS OF WHO IS TO BE AN ELDER!!! I just don't understand the thinkin of people nowadays! the compromising is just outrageous!
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Post by 4hizglory37 on Aug 24, 2022 2:57:50 GMT -5
The most important thing is to understand we must continue following Jesus and obeying the scriptures if we want to be saved. We must endure till the end. It is really not complicated. Trust in Jesus and obey Jesus and the teachings of the New Testament. With regard to different churches focusing on scriptures that defend their beliefs for or against OSAS, I used to think that was happening until I realized the OSAS crowd rarely uses scripture, and when they do, it is out of context. They use other methods. What the OSAS crowd does is claim we are preaching another gospel and accursed, when they are the ones bringing another gospel, which is not the gospel at all. Our accusers are accursed and may wind up in hell for leading people astray. They accuse us of having a works based salvation and not trusting in Jesus but in our own righteousness. We obey because we believe Jesus. Obedience shows our faith. OSAS is not a Bible based doctrine at all. One of their own false teachers admitted that when he said that if we go by the Bible, nobody would be saved. While it is possible to lose your salvation, it is possible to endure till the end by keeping our trust in Jesus and obeying the scriptures. Again, trust in Jesus and obey Him and the scriptures. Do that, and you will one day have an inheritance in the Kingdom of God. If it were not true, Jesus would have told you so I don't think we actually lose our salvation but rather I would say that people "choose" to walk away from Jesus and His salvation gift because they love their sin more than they love the Lord. Also, if they truly believed and declared that Jesus is "LORD" over them, they would be submitting their will and subjugating themselves to His Lordship, but if their lives are not reflecting this, they never surrendered to Him. That is why I think the Scripture says, that they will come to Jesus and say, Lord, Lord, did we not do..... and He will say to depart from Him, you workers of iniquity, I NEVER KNEW YOU... They never submitted to His Lordship. Jesus must be Lord first before we declare Him our Savior. Does that make sense?
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Post by frienduff on Aug 24, 2022 11:23:31 GMT -5
Does anyone ever wonder why paul , WHO had the SPIRIT said women ought not to teach nor usurp authority over the man . Yet how many churches put women into leadership positions . We gotta keep the original pattern . Notice paul when writing to the churches said let a bishop or deacon be the HUSBAND of one wife . And notice this too . IF women were to lead and ursurp authority how come not even one apostel was a woman . Exactly . YET folks dont seem to have a problem going contrary to that doctrine . I say if the early church taught it we simply do it . There is a church that I know that the men of the church gave the authority to preach and teach to a woman. These men refused to take the call!!! Now this church has allowed this woman to continue to preach. I went to check it out and I did not feel right in my spirit. She has had this position for some time now, and the men have no excuse to take back their God given authority to be the spiritual leaders!!! Shame on them.
I also wanted to let you all know but not had a chance to tell you that my family and I have left our church... they put a divorced man up for elder. I was praying in the morning and I heard in my spirit that I could not be the Worship leader under the authority of this man. We tried to tell the other elders and in the end they decided to offend God rather than offend man. We have been doing church at home as a family. It has been very good.
I tried to tell a friend about that situation (she goes to the church where the woman preaches) She was like, we are under grace and if he repented, it is ok. I was like NO! THIS IS NOT ABOUT REPENTING BUT GOD'S QUALIFICATIONS, HIS REQUIREMENTS OF WHO IS TO BE AN ELDER!!! I just don't understand the thinkin of people nowadays! the compromising is just outrageous!
I have no way of knowing anythin dear sister about this situation . For example , DID the woman commit fornication against him . WELL if so he is free to divorce and remarry . I simply have no way of knowing the situation at hand unless i hear it . So what exactly happened in the marriage .
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Post by frienduff on Aug 24, 2022 11:24:43 GMT -5
As far as the woman teaching etc , YA FLEE THAT CHURCH its SOLD OUT and NEVER LOOK back if they wont hear ya . Never look back . We can pray for them but the blind leaders of the blind shall fall into the ditch .
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