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Post by Giller on Jun 17, 2023 14:48:08 GMT -5
I have been thinking about many things lately, especially upon things that concern taking up our cross and following Jesus.
Mat 10:37-39 (37) He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. (38) And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me. (39) He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.
Is God an afterthought or a forethought in many of the things we say ?
Is God our life or part of our life?
What is God truly to us?
Things of this nature is worthy of meditation from time to time.
Share your thoughts.
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Post by frienduff on Jun 17, 2023 17:20:40 GMT -5
I have been thinking about many things lately, especially upon things that concern taking up our cross and following Jesus. Mat 10:37-39 (37) He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. (38) And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me. (39) He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it. Is God an afterthought or a forethought in many of the things we say ? Is God our life or part of our life? What is God truly to us? Things of this nature is worthy of meditation from time to time. Share your thoughts.
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Post by frienduff on Jun 17, 2023 17:23:17 GMT -5
Theres some thoughts giller . Take a peek at that . And if a christain is a parent , And their child decides he or she is not the sex they were born . DONT SUPPORT that wicked decision . . Cant love children more than GOD . The next time one of those family members , or a church pastor , or a son or daughter mother or dad , decides to come on out of the closet , CANT SUPPORT IT . WE cannot put ANYTHING before GOD . Not son , not daughter , not spouse , not parents , nothing . We in a war giller . And seeker sensitive , WELL IT DESTROYED the CHURCHES .
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Post by John on Jun 18, 2023 0:50:14 GMT -5
I have been thinking about many things lately, especially upon things that concern taking up our cross and following Jesus. Mat 10:37-39 (37) He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. (38) And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me. (39) He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it. Is God an afterthought or a forethought in many of the things we say ? Is God our life or part of our life? What is God truly to us? Things of this nature is worthy of meditation from time to time. Share your thoughts. I think that for most of us, there are times where God is our life and there are times where he is part of our life. Ideally, God should always be our life, but I think there are few that can honestly say they never let the cares of life blow them off course. I think this is a good message and something we should all reflect on.
At this time, I would say that God is my life, but I know that has not always been true, though I have always considered God and stood for Him.
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Post by Tabitha3319 on Jun 21, 2023 17:56:00 GMT -5
I have been thinking about many things lately, especially upon things that concern taking up our cross and following Jesus. Mat 10:37-39 (37) He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. (38) And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me. (39) He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it. Is God an afterthought or a forethought in many of the things we say ? Is God our life or part of our life? What is God truly to us? Things of this nature is worthy of meditation from time to time. Share your thoughts.
This has been on my mind lately. Am I really making God the center of my life? I have to listen for His correction and shift gears at times.
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Post by frienduff on Jun 21, 2023 18:53:04 GMT -5
I have been thinking about many things lately, especially upon things that concern taking up our cross and following Jesus. Mat 10:37-39 (37) He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. (38) And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me. (39) He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it. Is God an afterthought or a forethought in many of the things we say ? Is God our life or part of our life? What is God truly to us? Things of this nature is worthy of meditation from time to time. Share your thoughts.
This has been on my mind lately. Am I really making God the center of my life? I have to listen for His correction and shift gears at times.
IF one were to desire to rule over the world and have the devotion and support of the world THEY gonna have to preach something that can UNIFY not only all religions but secular humanity as well . THUS they gonna have to come up with an ideal , a COMMON GROUND idea , that will UNITE them as one under such men . ANY GUESSES on what that might be . IF one wants to unite the religions , they must begin to remove the fundamental beliefs of those religoins . CAUSE we all know we dont believe as a muslim nor as a hindu , nor do they as us . SO TO UNITE the religions YOU MUST find what they have in common . AND remove the fundamentals of their core religion and slowly replace it with what they all have in common . SO THEY DID THIS . Fundamental core values became more and more seen as a disease and an offence and things that divide . WHAT UNITES RELIGIONS and HUMANITY WELL ITS not gonna be FUNDAMENTAL TRUTHS . cause as i said atheist dont believe as we do heck they dont even beleive in GOD the muslims dont believe in the same GOD we do . SO think about this . CAUSE ITS WHAT THEY BEEN DOING . THEY HAD TO FIND OUT what THEY ALL HAD IN COMMON . COMMON GROUND IF YA WILL . THEY had to break down the barriers , AKA remove the core fundamental truths . AND REPLACE IT WITH SOMETHING that ALL HAVE IN COMMON . A SENSUAL VERSION OF WHAT THE WORLD THINKS IS LOVE . THEY DID IT . and our churches , even our churches have been buying this strategy for years . TILL NOW a TRUE BIBLCAL LAMB is seen as dangerous and in the way , non loving , etc. IT WORKED FOLKS . ALL RELIGIONS are now working on and focusing on what they have in common . HAVE BEEN . THUS preach the word love a lot , also preach do good works , do good to humanity . CAUSE AGAIN EVERY RELIGOIN teaches those concepts , EVEN ATHIESTS have those concepts . NOW YA KNOW . NOW YA KNOW what the heck has been going on in our churches FOR YEARS and years . NOW all religions and humanity , whether athiest or not is all UNITING under what they THINK IS LOVE only it sure seems to accept evil and it sure seems to HATE BIBLICAL TRUTH . ITS COMING FROM THE DRAGON MY FRIEND . But the lambs wont be and aint buying it . but many people are. THEY BEEN DOING THIS FOR YEARS JOHN . and for years , i been at war with it . This is why our churches have been preaching things like seeker friendly Finding common ground . breaking down bridges . Saying doctrines of mass distraction and that we need to focus on love . And all the while they have been transforming the churches , and the religons and humanity itself through education , through politics and etc . NOW ITS RIPE and is fast coming to the full .
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Post by Giller on Jul 3, 2023 8:58:02 GMT -5
Here is a good quote from A W Tozer, on the cross:
( A W Tozer)
(THE RADICAL CROSS The way of the cross is still the pain-wrecked path to spiritual power and fruitfulness.
Do not seek to hide from it. Do not accept an easy way. Do not allow yourself to be patted to sleep in a comfortable church, void of power and barren of fruit. Do not paint the cross nor deck it with flowers. Take it for what it is, as it is, and you fill find the rugged way to death and life. Let it slay you utterly. – A. W. Tozer, from “Coddled or Crucified?” in The Radical Cross.)
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Post by Giller on Jul 3, 2023 16:01:01 GMT -5
A W Tozer, died in 1963.
This is what he said in his day:
"A whole new generation of Christians has come up believing that it is possible to 'accept' Christ without forsaking the world."
Well how much more worldly is the so called church of today?
Christ has to be our life, and not the world.
Rom 8:12-13 (12) Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh. (13) For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
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Post by John on Jul 4, 2023 13:12:42 GMT -5
A W Tozer, died in 1963. This is what he said in his day: "A whole new generation of Christians has come up believing that it is possible to 'accept' Christ without forsaking the world."Well how much more worldly is the so called church of today? Christ has to be our life, and not the world. Rom 8:12-13 (12) Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh. (13) For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live. Nobody wants to die to the flesh, and all wish they could find a way to remain the way they are and still serve the Lord and have an inheritance in His Kingdom. What matters is what Jesus and the Bible says, not what the "church of today" believes. It is not about the majority opinion but Biblical truth.
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Post by Giller on Jul 14, 2023 19:01:08 GMT -5
A W Tozer, died in 1963. This is what he said in his day: "A whole new generation of Christians has come up believing that it is possible to 'accept' Christ without forsaking the world."Well how much more worldly is the so called church of today? Christ has to be our life, and not the world. Rom 8:12-13 (12) Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh. (13) For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live. Nobody wants to die to the flesh, and all wish they could find a way to remain the way they are and still serve the Lord and have an inheritance in His Kingdom. What matters is what Jesus and the Bible says, not what the "church of today" believes. It is not about the majority opinion but Biblical truth.
A W Tozer died in the 60's, and he thought, many of the church was worldly then, how much more so is the so-called church worldly now ? The falling away is here no doubt, and as a Christian we should have a desire to forsake the world and crucify the flesh, I know I do. None of us are perfect, but that is no excuse to use, in not wanting to go forward with the Lord. The bible says this: Heb 6:1 (1) Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, l et us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, Paul says to go on unto perfection, so we must go forward and not draw back. Many use the argument of there being no perfect church, in order to compromise, and they gradually drop what God has shown them, and are being deceived in coming into a type of false unity. True churches of God, should seek to work together, but in a non compromising way, and in a careful way, but most churches are working together in a careless way, and are bit by bit leaving the cross, unto another gospel.
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Post by John on Jul 15, 2023 11:26:50 GMT -5
Nobody wants to die to the flesh, and all wish they could find a way to remain the way they are and still serve the Lord and have an inheritance in His Kingdom. What matters is what Jesus and the Bible says, not what the "church of today" believes. It is not about the majority opinion but Biblical truth.
A W Tozer died in the 60's, and he thought, many of the church was worldly then, how much more so is the so-called church worldly now ? The falling away is here no doubt, and as a Christian we should have a desire to forsake the world and crucify the flesh, I know I do. None of us are perfect, but that is no excuse to use, in not wanting to go forward with the Lord. The bible says this: Heb 6:1 (1) Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, l et us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, Paul says to go on unto perfection, so we must go forward and not draw back. Many use the argument of there being no perfect church, in order to compromise, and they gradually drop what God has shown them, and are being deceived in coming into a type of false unity. True churches of God, should seek to work together, but in a non compromising way, and in a careful way, but most churches are working together in a careless way, and are bit by bit leaving the cross, unto another gospel. It does not matter what churches say, or what we convince ourselves of. God's Word says what it means and means what it says. We can either accept the truth now or the hard way at the judgment.
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Post by Giller on Jul 21, 2023 20:58:19 GMT -5
A W Tozer died in the 60's, and he thought, many of the church was worldly then, how much more so is the so-called church worldly now ? The falling away is here no doubt, and as a Christian we should have a desire to forsake the world and crucify the flesh, I know I do. None of us are perfect, but that is no excuse to use, in not wanting to go forward with the Lord. The bible says this: Heb 6:1 (1) Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, l et us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, Paul says to go on unto perfection, so we must go forward and not draw back. Many use the argument of there being no perfect church, in order to compromise, and they gradually drop what God has shown them, and are being deceived in coming into a type of false unity. True churches of God, should seek to work together, but in a non compromising way, and in a careful way, but most churches are working together in a careless way, and are bit by bit leaving the cross, unto another gospel. It does not matter what churches say, or what we convince ourselves of. God's Word says what it means and means what it says. We can either accept the truth now or the hard way at the judgment.
Yes the truth is the truth, the bible has proclaimed a falling away, and it is here. And I am not sure in all the ways you are meaning what you said in your response, if you are referring to something I said, or totally agree with what I said, or partially. But we know that it's true that what is called the church, is being conformed to this world. That is easy to see, and as a Christian we should have a desire to forsake the ways of this world for God puts new desires in us, and the bible says this: Rom 6:4 (4) Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. And as Paul has said he did not attain, we also know that we have not attained, but some use this as an excuse for sin, saying that they have to sin every day, when that is not true, for Christ gave us victory over sin, we just have to learn to walk in his ways. There is victory in the cross.
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Post by Giller on Jul 21, 2023 21:04:11 GMT -5
For myself, I am not moved in what they say in the sense, that it will not move me from what the word says, but I do care about them, and am concerned about their spiritual life and their souls.
Although I know that what men sow they shall also reap.
And they have to choose for themselves, but even though we know most will not go in the narrow road, we still want to see as many as possible enter that road.
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Post by John on Jul 21, 2023 21:50:31 GMT -5
It does not matter what churches say, or what we convince ourselves of. God's Word says what it means and means what it says. We can either accept the truth now or the hard way at the judgment.
Yes the truth is the truth, the bible has proclaimed a falling away, and it is here. And I am not sure in all the ways you are meaning what you said in your response, if you are referring to something I said, or totally agree with what I said, or partially. But we know that it's true that what is called the church, is being conformed to this world. That is easy to see, and as a Christian we should have a desire to forsake the ways of this world for God puts new desires in us, and the bible says this: Rom 6:4 (4) Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. And as Paul has said he did not attain, we also know that we have not attained, but some use this as an excuse for sin, saying that they have to sin every day, when that is not true, for Christ gave us victory over sin, we just have to learn to walk in his ways. There is victory in the cross. I am agreeing with you that the church has become so much like the world, you cannot tell them apart. Jesus taught us to come out from the world and be a separate people, a peculiar treasure unto Him. We are to be salt and light, and we should be the influence of change, not the other way around.
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Post by Giller on Jul 21, 2023 22:11:06 GMT -5
Yes the truth is the truth, the bible has proclaimed a falling away, and it is here. And I am not sure in all the ways you are meaning what you said in your response, if you are referring to something I said, or totally agree with what I said, or partially. But we know that it's true that what is called the church, is being conformed to this world. That is easy to see, and as a Christian we should have a desire to forsake the ways of this world for God puts new desires in us, and the bible says this: Rom 6:4 (4) Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. And as Paul has said he did not attain, we also know that we have not attained, but some use this as an excuse for sin, saying that they have to sin every day, when that is not true, for Christ gave us victory over sin, we just have to learn to walk in his ways. There is victory in the cross. I am agreeing with you that the church has become so much like the world, you cannot tell them apart. Jesus taught us to come out from the world and be a separate people, a peculiar treasure unto Him. We are to be salt and light, and we should be the influence of change, not the other way around. Amen, and amen !!!!!!!
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