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Post by frienduff on Nov 8, 2018 17:57:28 GMT -5
And I want us to never forget this . What is the number one job of a politician when once elected . They will do it diligently .
TO GET RE ELECTED .
NEVER Forget that .
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Post by ladypeartree on Nov 9, 2018 4:24:13 GMT -5
I thought it was to lie and deceive till you believe your own lies Here if you want to know if a politician is lying you just wait to hear if any words come out of his/her mouth and then you know they are
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Post by frienduff on Nov 9, 2018 10:44:06 GMT -5
I thought it was to lie and deceive till you believe your own lies Here if you want to know if a politician is lying you just wait to hear if any words come out of his/her mouth and then you know they are Yes dear sister, that was the point of this thread . I seen a shifting beginning the night of the election and it has me worried for many folks . Folks don't realize or are not thinking , that men who do not follow Christ are under whose influence . Their is no exception to this rule . And I noticed something even on fox news , something I don't think many are yet seeing . Both sides have talked of it , but I seen it starting to influence more . The folks on both sides are long worn out with division , they are waiting for something , AND ITS NOT GOOD . Its a unity , they want to be able to trust in govt again , and theirin lies a big problem . I KNOW why GOD says Cursed is the man whose hope and trust is in man . The enemy created a sharp divison and great hate between both sides , But he will also offer the solution . And I seen and am seeing this fake solution taking increase . While divisions have increased , the folks are now beginning to tout the solution , and they don't even realize they are , OR who and where it will lead them all too . A king and kings are coming , even now the spirit of darkness which has caused to pit man against man , Is also rising up with the solution to the ills , AND ITS BAD NEWS . A unity has been and is coming , a unity that seems as light yet whose trust and hope is in humanity and also in a religious mindset which is all inclusive . Sister , its all bad news , and those whose hope is in men , WILL FALL FOR IT . I wish folks had paid more attention to what I was saying and have been saying for quite some time . And that is , GET all hope away from either side in politics , and let the people return fast to the ONLY TRUE HOPE their is , WHICH IS FOUND ONLY IN GOD , IN CHRIST . The answer was and is never in politics , and its not In this all inclusive lie , ITS only IN CHRIST and we need to learn him well, thus feast on the bible and never look back .
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2018 13:44:57 GMT -5
The gospel and politics do not mix....one is holy the other is common/profane. Jesus did not come to legislate morality, He came to change hearts so that they wouldn't need legislating, and that is the only mandate the church has been given. Those who mix Christian spirituality and politics may not realize it but they are walking in agreement with the Roman/Babylonish counterfeit of the true faith, who also seeks power to do the same, and we know from history how that turned out.
Jesus alluded that the kingdom of darkness is the one divided against itself and that is why it won't stand (knowledge of good vs. evil). So we must be clear and understand that politics belongs to the kingdoms of this world....it is secular. When the angel was asked whose side are you on, he replied, "Neither, but in the name of the Lord do I come." And that should be our stand as believers....don't get involved in the battles of the kingdoms of this world, but instead just bring the gospel. I believe it's fine to vote for a representative to simply administrate the country we temporarily dwell in, it's just like hiring a foreman for your company (IF there is somebody suitable to vote for)....but to take it further and turn it into a spiritual exercise worth fighting for is where we go off track.
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Post by frienduff on Nov 9, 2018 14:21:05 GMT -5
THAT is RIGHT sister watchful. For we serve a KINGDOM not of this world . IN WHICH the LEGISLATOR OF that KINGDOM is CHRIST . Who legislates His sayings ON OUR HEART by THE SPIRIT .
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Post by John on Nov 9, 2018 14:27:34 GMT -5
With regard to the OP, that is true more often than not, but some are term limited and others don't seek re-election. We are to be salt in this world, and salt is a preservative. One way to help slow the spread of evil is to vote, so I am more than happy to be involved in helping elect Republicans. I do mix religion and politics. Our faith should influence who we vote. I plan to do what I can to help Trump get re-elected, unless he turns liberal between now and 2020.
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Post by PG4Him on Nov 9, 2018 14:34:37 GMT -5
Just for the record, the Bible doesn’t say it’s a sin to be a politician. A Christian can care about politics without worshipping politics. Unless we should all quit our day jobs and live in a church....
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Post by frienduff on Nov 9, 2018 14:40:56 GMT -5
With regard to the OP, that is true more often than not, but some are term limited and others don't seek re-election. We are to be salt in this world, and salt is a preservative. One way to help slow the spread of evil is to vote, so I am more than happy to be involved in helping elect Republicans. I do mix religion and politics. Our faith should influence who we vote. I plan to do what I can to help Trump get re-elected, unless he turns liberal between now and 2020.
UNLESS WHAT . You see something DONT ya butero. YOU perceiving something . NOT all is at it seems , NEVER WAS . OH, changes are coming all right , better we hope not men . YOU SEE SOMETHING . AND By grace , I am seeing it too . SOMETHING I long ago warned us all of . REMEMBER THESE WORDS , ALL IS NOT AS IT SEEMS . You just keep a close eye out . YOU LOVED BUTERO . But I was warned on the night of the election . My loved brother , things are not as they seem . And we will all see this in time to come . WHEN the false ones cry and they are heard , NOT A GOOD SIGN . Folks didn't repent . they get only worse . NOW n every BIBLCAL example we see judgment and delusion in those times . BUT , prase the LORD , HIS LIGHT will be our guide .
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Post by frienduff on Nov 9, 2018 14:47:11 GMT -5
Just for the record, the Bible doesn’t say it’s a sin to be a politician. A Christian can care about politics without worshipping politics. Unless we should all quit our day jobs and live in a church.... TAKE a good long SPIRITUAL WHIFF . The more we learn of Christ , the clearer and clearer we do see . BUTERO said a lil something . Something sniff sniff, I been smelling for quite some time . We would all do well to heed this next words . TRUST IN NO MAN , HOPE IN NO MAN , TRUST THOU IN GOD ONLY . For these be the days of great deception and delusion and the weapon is building . Fear no man , HOPE IN GOD my friends , HOPE IN THE LORD . For no matter what is coming against us , WE GOT ALL HOPE . FOR I leave us with one word the very reason of our hope . And that word is simply this . IMMANUEL .
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Post by frienduff on Nov 9, 2018 14:57:09 GMT -5
Just for the record, the Bible doesn’t say it’s a sin to be a politician. A Christian can care about politics without worshipping politics. Unless we should all quit our day jobs and live in a church.... You loved sister . Maybe not by the pope , But I loves ya . LET us be on guard big time in these days . And let no one have any fear . IMMANUEL . whether we live or die , WE THE LORDS . NOW let all thathas breath , PRAISE THE HOLY LORD . That is right , PRAISE THE LORD .
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Post by Cletus on Nov 9, 2018 16:52:20 GMT -5
I think the number one job of politicians is to carry out whatever God ordains. we tend to see time as being linear, a time line, whereas the Hebrews view time more as an ascending spiral... things working up to a certain point, which is God bringing to birth His nation, His people, His plan.
Jer 29:11 For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith the LORD, thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you an expected end.
In the time of Jeremiahs captivity did everyone make it out of there alive when God had declared this scripture? we do tend to think in singular form concerning this. however in the NT ans the OT God speaks of His people, His church, plural.
we also tend to see the here and now, but God sees the beginning and the end... and He Is the Alpha and Omega. it began and ends with Him.
How great our God Is!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2018 17:07:28 GMT -5
It might be that some are reading things into my post that I didn't intend. I don't think it's wrong to vote as a resident of your country, any more than it's wrong to hire a foreman or administrator for one's company. And I don't consider it's wrong for a believer to be a politician/public servant either, as long as you are an honest one....and whatsoever you do, do as unto the Lord, whether sweeping the kitchen floor or tabling legislation in government. But to take it further than that is not the example that Jesus set. On the contrary, mixing church and state is what the counterfeit does, which turns it into a weapon for the kingdom of darkness and against the true gospel....that's the mystery of Mystery Babylon....turning what is God's, against Him....and the mystery of how/why He knew it would happen and allows it.
I was reflecting on some of these things the other day and seeing so clearly how we can't be trusting in both God and politicians at the same time. The reason Christians are so involved in politics now on an emotional level is because they have dropped their true weapon...the gospel...can't do both any more than we can serve two masters.
I'd like to add that it's through the gospel we are to be salt and light, that's why it says if the salt has lost it's saltiness it can't be made salty again but is fit only to be thrown out and trampled underfoot by men....judgment...being ruled over/oppressed and taken captive by the heathen. The church having dropped the ball on spreading the gospel is now trying to grasp at politics as a way of keeping the encroaching evil (judgment) at bay.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2018 17:17:46 GMT -5
THAT is RIGHT sister watchful. For we serve a KINGDOM not of this world . IN WHICH the LEGISLATOR OF that KINGDOM is CHRIST . Who legislates His sayings ON OUR HEART by THE SPIRIT . I think I know what you mean frienduff. As long as it's understood (and I believe you do) that while legislation imposes it's edicts on the people outwardly, it is the Spirit within the heart who inspires the believer on the inside to keep the laws of Christ, through the willingness of the believer......and that we are so blessed to be free from the curse of the Law.
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Post by PG4Him on Nov 9, 2018 17:30:47 GMT -5
The problem is that many Christians today are browbeaten if they so much as mention being a Trump supporter. They are made to feel ashamed of themselves because of a political vote. Yes, some Trump supporters are too emotionally invested. That’s a fact. But at the same time, no one likes being stereotyped or punished for other people’s mistakes.
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