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Post by frienduff on May 17, 2019 14:53:32 GMT -5
I don't accept homosexual marriages as legitimate, license or no license.
The all inclusive world already does:
And guess what?! They are NOT ashamed.
"Were they ashamed when they had committed abomination?
No! They were not at all ashamed..." - Jeremiah 6:15
"...Therefore they shall fall among those who fall;
At the time I punish them, They shall be cast down, says the Lord." - Jeremiah 6:15
"Repent therefore and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out,
so that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord..." - Acts 3:19
"...for I know that You are a gracious and merciful God,
slow to anger and abundant in lovingkindness, One who relents from doing harm." - Jonah 4:2
"Do I have any pleasure at all that the wicked should die?”
says the Lord God, “and not that he should turn from his ways and live?" - Ezekiel 18:23
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Post by frienduff on May 17, 2019 14:58:08 GMT -5
Yall see what letters wrote . What is the one thing that God hates above all . IS it when the ice cold does it OR is it when all inclusive churches WHO USE HIS NAME , DO and HONOR IT . OOOOOOPS . GOD is not well pleased with this big all inclusive religion Going on today . IT WILL have an end , ON the DAY of the LORD . And while I desire none to perish , SO we do warn , They surley will if they heed not the REPENT message . Secular PC all inclusive as wicked as it is , Is not as wicked to GOD as when those who claim HIS NAME DO IT . And we can find the proof of this in the old holy scrips and even revelations . The world does change , churches sadly too BUT GOD DONT . And HIS WORD will be our judge on the last day . The secular all inclusive PC and the religious all inclusive pc , THEY ARE ONE , and its all ONE BIG DELUSION to unite the world as one unto the day of armegeddon . And folks aint seeing this for what it is , nor where it leads , IN fact they see it as love and gods will . Do notice I put a lil g . CAUSE WE KNOW it aint GODS WILL for us to partake of that stench . But rather to expose it and POINT ONLY TO CHRIST .
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Post by frienduff on May 17, 2019 15:08:25 GMT -5
I am divorced... have been for 8 years. I married a man that had committed adultery on his first wife... multiple times. Then we were married and divorced. I didn't understand the ramifications of God's word during my marriage. We had a bad marriage and then I ended it. I now understand God's Word. An I forgiven of divorce now to remarry? Or am I bound by that marriage til death? If a man puts away his wife and marries another he commits adultery and the one who marries him commits adultery . JESUS WORDS . . YOU SHOULD be rejoicing GOD GOT YOU OUT of that adulterous marriage . Watch what paul says . SO then IF she is married to another man , WHILE her first husband lives , SHE shall be called an adulteress . You were in adultery in that first marriage . Good thing God had mercy on you and it ended . The man cheated on his wife and they ended their marriage . HE was never free to remarry , nor were you free to marry HIM . You better make sure this man has never been married . You better not enter into another adulterous relationship . I think it ended because GOD had mercy on your IGNORANCE . But you aint ignorant NO MORE . Better not enter into a convenant with that man IF he has been married before , Might not end so well for you as it did the first time . You might actually die an adulteress and that is no place any wants to be found ON JUDGMENT DAY . SO better start pray and asking lots of questions and ensure its not adultery you are about to enter . We will pray too .
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Post by John on May 17, 2019 15:13:35 GMT -5
I am divorced... have been for 8 years. I married a man that had committed adultery on his first wife... multiple times. Then we were married and divorced. I didn't understand the ramifications of God's word during my marriage. We had a bad marriage and then I ended it. I now understand God's Word. An I forgiven of divorce now to remarry? Or am I bound by that marriage til death? If a man puts away his wife and marries another he commits adultery and the one who marries him commits adultery . JESUS WORDS . . YOU SHOULD be rejoicing GOD GOT YOU OUT of that adulterous marriage . Watch what paul says . SO then IF she is married to another man , WHILE her first husband lives , SHE shall be called an adulteress . You were in adultery in that first marriage . Good thing God had mercy on you and it ended . The man cheated on his wife and they ended their marriage . HE was never free to remarry , nor were you free to marry HIM . You better make sure this man has never been married . You better not enter into another adulterous relationship . I think it ended because GOD had mercy on your IGNORANCE . But you aint ignorant NO MORE . Better not enter into a convenant with that man IF he has been married before , Might not end so well for you as it did the first time . You might actually die an adulteress and that is no place any wants to be found ON JUDGMENT DAY . SO better start pray and asking lots of questions and ensure its not adultery you are about to enter . We will pray too .
There is only one problem here. The Bible says that if a divorce takes place for the cause of fornication, the marriage is dissolved and re-marriage is allowed. It doesn't limit that to the victim of adultery. The marriage ended, period. It may not seem fair, but her ex-husband would have been free to marry her. His adultery took place in his previous marriage. Can you show me any scripture that says that the one who did the cheating can never re-marry if his or her spouse put them away?
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Post by frienduff on May 17, 2019 15:19:45 GMT -5
If a man puts away his wife and marries another he commits adultery and the one who marries him commits adultery . JESUS WORDS . . YOU SHOULD be rejoicing GOD GOT YOU OUT of that adulterous marriage . Watch what paul says . SO then IF she is married to another man , WHILE her first husband lives , SHE shall be called an adulteress . You were in adultery in that first marriage . Good thing God had mercy on you and it ended . The man cheated on his wife and they ended their marriage . HE was never free to remarry , nor were you free to marry HIM . You better make sure this man has never been married . You better not enter into another adulterous relationship . I think it ended because GOD had mercy on your IGNORANCE . But you aint ignorant NO MORE . Better not enter into a convenant with that man IF he has been married before , Might not end so well for you as it did the first time . You might actually die an adulteress and that is no place any wants to be found ON JUDGMENT DAY . SO better start pray and asking lots of questions and ensure its not adultery you are about to enter . We will pray too .
There is only one problem here. The Bible says that if a divorce takes place for the cause of fornication, the marriage is dissolved and re-marriage is allowed. It doesn't limit that to the victim of adultery. The marriage ended, period. It may not seem fair, but her ex-husband would have been free to marry her. His adultery took place in his previous marriage. Can you show me any scripture that says that the one who did the cheating can never re-marry if his or her spouse put them away?
Yes . my dear friend I can . And pray about this . JESUS says EVEN the one who is put away if they are married ITS ADULTERY . the one who puts them away or even is put away , NEITHER PARTY can remarry . WELL, save for fornication as JESUS said . OR if the spouse dies . But go back and read it real slowly . IF a man puts away and marries another HE commits adultery and even the wife who was put away , if another marries her ITS adultery . Go and really read it .
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Post by frienduff on May 17, 2019 15:53:09 GMT -5
They simply should remain single as by grace I have . DO I seem depressed at all . HAPPY is the one who hears and does my sayings . Now on that note , everyone knows what time it is , LORD PRAISING TIME .
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Post by Dezi on May 17, 2019 16:09:41 GMT -5
They simply should remain single as by grace I have . DO I seem depressed at all . HAPPY is the one who hears and does my sayings . Now on that note , everyone knows what time it is , LORD PRAISING TIME . I just want to make sure I am understanding you correctly... since my ex husband was married before me then I was committing adultery the whole time I was married to him? I have never truly been married?
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Post by Abby-Joy on May 17, 2019 17:48:02 GMT -5
They simply should remain single as by grace I have . DO I seem depressed at all . HAPPY is the one who hears and does my sayings . Now on that note , everyone knows what time it is , LORD PRAISING TIME . I just want to make sure I am understanding you correctly... since my ex husband was married before me then I was committing adultery the whole time I was married to him? I have never truly been married? Dezi, were you aware that he had cheated on his previous wife when you married him?
I respectfully disagree with John regarding the cheating person's right to remarry. If that's the case, all someone has to do is go out and cheat.... then they can ask forgiveness and remarry someone else. I don't think that's a solution to the problem of infidelity at all. It gives a license to end a marriage by fornicating and then remarry someone else. In that case, what's the point in remaining faithful to one's spouse at all? You can just cheat (fornicate) and then divorce ... and remarry ... on a whim.
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Post by PG4Him on May 17, 2019 18:13:35 GMT -5
I agree with Abby that the cheating/remarriage thing goes both ways. Jesus spoke of husbands putting away wives, but there’s no reason to think it can’t work the other way around. Otherwise a man could just cheat and shove his wife out with impunity. That doesn’t sound like Jesus’ intention.
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Post by John on May 17, 2019 18:17:03 GMT -5
I just want to make sure I am understanding you correctly... since my ex husband was married before me then I was committing adultery the whole time I was married to him? I have never truly been married? Dezi, were you aware that he had cheated on his previous wife when you married him?
I respectfully disagree with John regarding the cheating person's right to remarry. If that's the case, all someone has to do is go out and cheat.... then they can ask forgiveness and remarry someone else. I don't think that's a solution to the problem of infidelity at all. It gives a license to end a marriage by fornicating and then remarry someone else. In that case, what's the point in remaining faithful to one's spouse at all? You can just cheat (fornicate) and then divorce ... and remarry ... on a whim.
Abby-Joy, I am happy to see you back, and I hope you are feeling better.
As far as what you said, there is truth in it, in that a person could get free from a bad marriage through cheating, but it is not as simple as that. Let's say that I wanted out of my marriage, but wanted to re-marry. I cheat on my wife. In doing that, I commit a willful sin, and may not ever have a chance to sincerely repent. God knows if I am playing games with him. My wife might not divorce me. She might stay with me or separate, but never put me away. I still am not free to re-marry. There is no guarantees of anything here. I am just saying that if the marriage is dissolved through fornication, it is dissolved. If you disagree, I am okay with that. This is one of the most complicated issues we face in the church. It is not complicated if we simply get married one time and stay with our spouse till death do us part, but when we do anything besides that, it gets complicated.
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Post by John on May 17, 2019 18:19:32 GMT -5
I agree with Abby that the cheating/remarriage thing goes both ways. Jesus spoke of husbands putting away wives, but there’s no reason to think it can’t work the other way around. Otherwise a man could just cheat and shove his wife out with impunity. That doesn’t sound like Jesus’ intention. Not really, because God knows our heart. I remember one man divorced his wife, and said he planned to re-marry. He said that if he got any flack about it, he would just say he repented, so nobody could say anything. God knows when we are playing games. It would have to be true repentance, or a man that would do that would still be an adulterer.
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Post by John on May 17, 2019 18:22:42 GMT -5
I am curious, did anyone else watch that video, and what did you think if you did? I felt like the man did good research, and had a lot right, but his attempt to create an argument that Jesus was speaking of a person being put away without a bill of divorcement didn't make any sense. Where do you come down with regard to what he calls three theories?
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Post by PG4Him on May 17, 2019 18:26:00 GMT -5
Dezi the only advice I have for you is this. If you are not 100% sure on what God wills for you in this area, you need to wait. You can get opinions and interpretations from a dozen people, and they may not be enough to settle your conscience. If there’s any part of you that’s afraid this might be a sin, you need to wait. And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin. — Romans 14:23 It’s far too easy for you to enter this marriage with doubt, then when things get rough you figure you’re being punished for sin and you start to regret the marriage. Don’t “eat” beyond your faith. Also, sister, you’re still healing. You’re a work in progress. Your doctrinal understanding will likely change about a LOT of important things other than marriage.
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Post by PG4Him on May 17, 2019 18:45:32 GMT -5
It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement: But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery. — Matthew 5:31-32
Jesus clearly says you can’t get rid of a faithful wife by simply giving her a divorce paper. His third ‘theory’ is totally wrong.
If Jesus was talking about a separate issue and was not going above the Torah, He wouldn’t have bothered saying what He said about Moses giving them a concession. Either Jesus approved of the concession or He didn’t.
Jesus fulfilled the Torah Law, and He called His followers to rise above it to a higher level. Just because it was good enough for Moses doesn’t mean it was good enough for Jesus. We are told our righteousness must exceed that of the scribes.
Turn the other cheek is not in the Torah. Eye for an eye was lawful, but again Jesus calls us higher.
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Post by PG4Him on May 17, 2019 18:55:52 GMT -5
I agree with Abby that the cheating/remarriage thing goes both ways. Jesus spoke of husbands putting away wives, but there’s no reason to think it can’t work the other way around. Otherwise a man could just cheat and shove his wife out with impunity. That doesn’t sound like Jesus’ intention. Not really, because God knows our heart. I remember one man divorced his wife, and said he planned to re-marry. He said that if he got any flack about it, he would just say he repented, so nobody could say anything. God knows when we are playing games. It would have to be true repentance, or a man that would do that would still be an adulterer.
Ok. Then I agree. I was thinking you thought Jesus’ words only applied to the wife. Adultery (not a harmless glance at a pretty woman, but severe intentional unfaithfulness) will kill a marriage. It will be deader than a doornail.
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