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Post by frienduff on Jul 16, 2020 11:30:25 GMT -5
ALL , WILL BE TEMPTED . AND IF we are NOT centered on JESUS and built up in HIM , WE GONNA FALL . NOTHING WILL STOP THE DELUSION . NOTHING . IT was determined and it will run its course . BACK TO BIBLES . BACK TO BIBLES . and let us be here for one another .
And if i see a false man or woman of belial , THEY GONNA GET EXPOSED . the cards will fall as they fall . OUR MINDS MUST BE FULLY PERSUADED . GIVE ME JESUS and nothing else . And the cost is the cost and simply will be the cost . ALL GAIN FOR JESUS no matter what we lose of suffer in this life . LET THAT BE OUR MIND OUR HEART . AMEN .
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Post by watchful on Jul 18, 2020 6:27:48 GMT -5
Submission to Christ and what he has done will bring fruit, performance on the other hand will bring no fruit. Amen, there is that we need to be in the Spirit and not in the flesh, otherwise we in our flesh will only stand in the way of the Holy Spirit doing His work. It's in our weakness, that His strength is perfected.
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Post by frienduff on Jul 18, 2020 15:30:07 GMT -5
what a charlaton using the name of JESUS to lie . this woman supports homosexuality , abortion yet churches fall for this stuff . All about a social gosple , and yet that social gosple , DENIES JESUS as the only way , supports sin , murder and does the work for a one world agenda . And the problem is , churches wont stand against this , cause they too worried they will seem as haters , too worried or too seduced . either way this world is in dire straits . Most even of evangelicals , IF they heard this from someone other than AOC , would agree in part with it . WE IN TROUBLE .
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Post by watchful on Jul 18, 2020 19:07:28 GMT -5
Some folks are too wise in their own eyes to submit to God's wisdom.....they must think they know better than the Almighty.
1Co 3:19
For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
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Post by Giller on Jul 18, 2020 22:39:51 GMT -5
One thing the Holy Ghost told my friend was that, people are not only being seduced, but sedated.
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Post by watchful on Jul 19, 2020 9:35:18 GMT -5
Rom 11:8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.
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Post by Giller on Jul 19, 2020 14:37:12 GMT -5
Many church people, and churches do not realize that they in part, or maybe in full in some cases, are adopting, or have adopted a Babylonian, even Roman Catholic mind set. Oh I will just say it plainly, it is a pagan mind set. And I will reveal some of this stuff even through a ministry, that on the side of creation, they cover this particular issue very well, but on standing against pagan things, their stance is very flawed, and very compromising, and very desensitized, and most in churches, in this area, have been very desensitized to what God thinks of this, and most including the ministry I will cover, have accepted a so called Christianized form of Halloween. I know that most take this issue litely, even here to some degree it seems, but it is a very serious matter to God. Very serious, and I think this is one of the many reasons that there is a falling away, is that people in a certain area, start to not care too much of what God thinks, thus they fall away from God's pattern. Hi frienduff, thought you would like this one.
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Post by Giller on Jul 19, 2020 15:28:12 GMT -5
When God calls Roman Catholicism, mystery Babylon the great, it is for a reason, it is because there is a similarity with the old Babylonian ways (especially religious), and the Roman Catholic ways.
Babylon had a pagan religion, but with no mask on it, Roman Catholicism is a pagan religion but with a mask on it.
One was full paganism, the other is masked paganism (a so called Christianized paganism).
And I know that some of the things I have said have been hard, but there is more to come.
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Post by frienduff on Jul 19, 2020 17:05:51 GMT -5
When God calls Roman Catholicism, mystery Babylon the great, it is for a reason, it is because there is a similarity with the old Babylonian ways (especially religious), and the Roman Catholic ways. Babylon had a pagan religion, but with no mask on it, Roman Catholicism is a pagan religion but with a mask on it. One was full paganism, the other is masked paganism (a so called Christianized paganism). And I know that some of the things I have said have been hard, but there is more to come. SOUND IT OUT GILLER . its simple to see for lambs . And i would add that protestantism has done the same . its all one big cloak .
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Post by Giller on Jul 19, 2020 22:27:32 GMT -5
When God calls Roman Catholicism, mystery Babylon the great, it is for a reason, it is because there is a similarity with the old Babylonian ways (especially religious), and the Roman Catholic ways. Babylon had a pagan religion, but with no mask on it, Roman Catholicism is a pagan religion but with a mask on it. One was full paganism, the other is masked paganism (a so called Christianized paganism). And I know that some of the things I have said have been hard, but there is more to come. SOUND IT OUT GILLER . its simple to see for lambs . And i would add that protestantism has done the same . its all one big cloak . Agreed. And I will have to separate the information I will share, in at least 3 or 4 parts. I will be covering, " The word mass, Christmas, and the Catholic church", " Calendars, sun god worship, December 25th", " More on sun god worship, and the 12 days of Yule", " Creation ministry compromise, and church compromises".
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Post by Giller on Jul 21, 2020 22:45:53 GMT -5
The word mass, Christmas, and the Catholic church
So of course we will start with the definition of the word Christmas.
(https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/1963302/christmas-term-meaning-why-shorten-xmas/)
(...To a point that is the case - the word is a shortened form of "Christ's mass", or "Cristes Maesse" as it was first recorded in 1038. This was followed by the term Cristes-messe in 1131, according to the The Catholic Encyclopedia.
The term "Christ" - or Crīst as it originally read - comes from the Greek word Khrīstos, a translation of the Hebrew word Messiah, which means "anointed". The second part of Christmas - maesse - is a version of the Latin word missa, the celebration of the Eucharist...)
There are so many articles which show this, and the Catholic church does have a christmas celebration to were they partake of the eucharist, and in 1038 the mass would have been mainly in Latin.
(https://aleteia.org/2017/08/24/why-do-catholics-call-their-main-church-services-mass/)
(...The English word “Mass” comes from the Latin word missa, which means to be “sent.” This Latin word has been used since the 6th or 7th century to describe the Catholic celebration of the Eucharist, our main liturgical service. The word is used during the conclusion of the celebration, when the priest or deacon says in Latin, Ite, missa est....)
So at one time, the word missa was used at the end of a celebration/service so to send people on their way, or as some would say it was a dismissal.
But since the 6th or 7th century, the word has been used in such a way as to point to the celebration of the eucharist.
Now what is the mass, according to the Catholic church, is it simply just any celebration, or does it involve the eucharist?
(https://www.dummies.com/religion/christianity/catholicism/the-catholic-worship-service-the-mass/)
(…The Catholic Worship Service: The Mass
The Mass, the formal, official worship service of Catholicism, is the most important and sacred act of worship in the Catholic Church. Going to Mass is the only way a Catholic can fulfill the Third Commandment to keep holy the Sabbath day and the only regular opportunity to receive the Holy Eucharist.
The Mass incorporates the Bible (Sacred Scripture), prayer, sacrifice, hymns, symbols, gestures, sacred food for the soul, and directions on how to live a Catholic life — all in one ceremony.
The first part of the Mass in the Western (Latin) Church is the Liturgy of the Word, and its main focus is on Bible readings as an integral part of daily and weekly worship. The second part is the Liturgy of the Eucharist, and its main focus is the holiest and most sacred part of the Mass — Holy Eucharist.…)
So the mass always is associated with the eucharist communion, now it may have many parts to it, but the eucharist celebration is never apart from the mass, in fact they call the eucharist the most sacred part of the mass.
(https://www.catholic.org/prayers/sacrament.php?id=2)
(…The doctrine of the Holy Eucharist consist of that of the Eucharist sacrifice, the sacrificial meal, and the sacrificial food, or to express it otherwise, it consists of the doctrine of the Mass, of Communion, and of the Real Presence.… …1. Doctrine about the Eucharistic sacrifice. Holy Mass is a real sacrifice, instituted by Christ at the Last Supper.…)
They associate the mass with Christ's last supper, which points to communion, but of course their way of communion involves transubstantiation which is an abomination to God.
(https://www.catholicscomehome.org/your-questions/church-teachings/the-eucharist/)
(…Is the Catholic mass really the same all around the world every time it is celebrated?
Yes! No matter where or when you go to Mass, you will always know what you’re going to get!
Jesus Christ celebrated the first Mass with His disciples at the Last Supper, the night before He died. He commanded His disciples, “Do this in remembrance of me” (Luke 22:19). The celebration of the Mass then became the main form of worship in the early Church, as a reenactment of the Last Supper, as Christ had commanded.
Each and every Mass since commemorates Jesus’ sacrifice on the cross through the Holy Eucharist. Because the Mass “re-presents” (makes present) the sacrifice on Calvary, Catholics all around the world join together to be made present in Christ’s timeless sacrifice for our sins. There is something fascinating about continuing to celebrate the same Mass—instituted by Christ and practiced by the early Church—with the whole community of Catholics around the world…and in heaven. …)
So each and every mass, the eucharist is celebrated, every mass!!!!
The eucharist is part of the mass and never apart from it.
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michaelmas)
(…In the fifth century a basilica near Rome was dedicated in honour of Michael on 30 September, beginning with celebrations on the eve of that day, and 29 September is now kept in honour of Michael and all Angels throughout some western churches.[4] The name Michaelmas comes from a shortening of "Michael's Mass", in the same style as Christmas (Christ's Mass) and Candlemas (Candle Mass, the Mass where traditionally candles used throughout the year would be blessed).[5]…)
Candlemas, Michaelmas, and christmas, are all celebrations of the Catholic church, and in every one of these celebrations, the eucharist within the mass is observed.
(https://bedfordcatholic.org/first-holy-communion)
(…The Holy Eucharist, or Holy Communion, is a most central and important Sacrament. Holy Communion is offered at every Mass, and in fact, the ritual of the Mass is largely taken up with preparing the hosts (wafers made of wheat and water, or gluten-free) and wine to become the body and blood of Christ and the congregation to receive the body of Christ. Transubstantiation is the act of changing the substances of bread and wine into the substances of the Body and Blood of Christ. For Catholics, the presence of Christ in the Holy Eucharist isn’t just symbolic, it’s real. The Real Presence.…)
Every mass, and I say every mass is the eucharist observed for it is the central part of the mass.
And here is even proof that at candlemas, the eucharist is observed.
(http://www.oremus.org/liturgy/pohg/s6c.html)
(…C. THE EUCHARIST OF CANDLEMAS 1 The Procession with lighted candles is the distinctive feature of the Eucharist of Candlemas.…)
It associates the eucharist with candlemas here, and I read other articles that show this mass stuff during michaelmas and so on, but could no longer find them.
So if these are Catholic celebrations, which they are, it would be appropriate for them to add the word mas at the end of the celebrating theme of Michael or candle, because they also observed the eucharist on these days during the mass, and the eucharist is part of one of the main central themes in the Catholic church.
So knowing all this as a Christian, why would you want to associate Christ's name with the mass, since it is an abomination to God, why not just be done with it, and fear the Lord !!!!
What have you got to fear, what have you got to lose ??
Why be loose with Christ's name, why not just go with the bible?
I guess I will have to add another part to the things I will be writing, which in my next post it will be about, "the different names concerning Christmas in different languages, and Santa Claus".
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Post by Giller on Jul 22, 2020 10:43:04 GMT -5
As we go on into this study, it should cause people to ask themselves some questions, and what is it we value most.
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Post by frienduff on Jul 22, 2020 15:39:40 GMT -5
As we go on into this study, it should cause people to ask themselves some questions, and what is it we value most. It should be JESUS and HIS EVERY WORD that we value most . For if we value not His words , and if we value not the apostels words who were influenced by the Holy Ghost . WE DONT VALUE JESUS we follow another jesus .
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Post by Giller on Jul 22, 2020 21:30:38 GMT -5
As we go on into this study, it should cause people to ask themselves some questions, and what is it we value most. It should be JESUS and HIS EVERY WORD that we value most . For if we value not His words , and if we value not the apostels words who were influenced by the Holy Ghost . WE DONT VALUE JESUS we follow another jesus . And this is what I am gradually exposing, is another Jesus. The evidence is overwhelming about the word Christmas, you cannot mix that mass word with Christ, it is irreverent.
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Post by Giller on Jul 23, 2020 0:50:37 GMT -5
The different names concerning Christmas in different languages
Here is a very good article about the names of the so called Christmas time in different languages, they seem to have done good research.
(https://theweek.com/articles/594123/almost-every-language-word-christmas-few-reference-christ)
(…¡Feliz Navidad! Joyeux Noël! Frohe Weihnachten! God Jul! Sretan Božić! Crăciun fericit! Priecīgus Ziemassvētkus!
How do you keep the Christ in Christmas if your language doesn't have a Christ in it to begin with?
The languages of the world have quite a variety of names for Christmas. That's not surprising, what with different languages having different words for things, but it turns out that our Christmas name stocking is stuffed with words that mean quite a few unrelated things. And many of them have nothing to do with Christ.
Christmas lands right at the same time as winter solstice festivals that were celebrated long before the coming of Christianity. That's likely an important reason Christmas is celebrated when it is: to co-opt the pagan festivals. (Jesus probably wasn't actually born on December 25.…
…And Christmas isn't the only Christian celebration to co-opt pagan festivals: Hallowe'en and All Saints' Day take over from a fall festival, for instance, and Easter gets its English name — and those eggs and bunnies — from a pagan goddess, Eostre. Likewise, Christmas gets its trees and holly and mistletoe and even its gift-giving traditions from pre-Christian religious celebrations, and in many languages it gets its name from them too.
Take Yule, for instance (Old English spelling: Geol). Yule featured trees, logs, boars, carol-singing, and feasting at night. It appears in Scandinavian languages as Jul (or, in Iceland and the Faroe Islands, Jól) and was borrowed into Finnish as Joulu and Estonian as Jõulud — all now their words for Christmas. Yule was a festival of a holy night (or nights), and that's where German name for Christmas, Weihnachten, comes from: Middle High German wihen nahten, "holy night" (also converted by Czech into Vánoce).
Oh, yes, it's holy for Christians too. It was easy enough to convert the festival to Christianity. Other nearby countries had winter festivals, too. In Latvian, Christmas is Ziemassvētki, which means (drumroll, please) "winter festival."…
…that word natalis, "of the birth," changed over time as Latin split into different languages. It became French Noël, Italian Natale, Spanish Navidad, and Portuguese Natal. Celtic languages also borrowed it: Gaelic Nollaig, Welsh Nadolig, and Breton Nedeleg.
Romanian also came from Latin, but in Romanian, Christmas is Crăciun, which is thought to come from Latin calatio, the name of a calling together of the people by priests — pre-Christian ones. Hungarian uses another version of the same word, Karácsony. In Lithuanian, Christmas is Kalėdos, which has an unclear origin but may come from the same source or a related one.
Birth shows up in other languages' names for Christmas, and it's not always easy to say whether the term started in reference to the birth of Jesus or whether it was carried over from a reference to a pagan birth (as of the sun god, for instance). In Polish it's Boże Narodzenie, "birth of God." Croatian Božić is a similar reference to God (or a god).
Russian and Bulgarian are clear about whose birth it is: their name is Рождество Христово (Rozhdestvo Khristovo), meaning "birth of Christ." Albanian Krishtlindja means the same thing. So does Greek Χριστούγεννα (Khristougenna, which sounds to English speakers like "khristuyenna").…
…There are quite a lot of languages that have only needed a word for Christmas in fairly recent times. Some have used translations of "the birth of Jesus" or words to that effect — Mandarin Chinese 圣诞 shèng dàn means "birth of the sage." But many have gotten their word from whatever European language had the strongest influence on them at the time. Some use versions of Noel or Natal. Many use an adaptation of Christmas.
Ah, yes, Christmas. Our word comes from Old English Cristes mæsse, "the mass (liturgical celebration) of Christ." Dutch Kerstmiss comes from the same thing. Pretty much every other language that has a word with that origin got it from English or Dutch… and usually English. In quite a lot of languages, though, "krismas" is not a possible sound combination. Some languages don't allow you to put the consonants together without vowels in between (so the Japanese version is Kurisumasu).…)
Wow there is a lot to cover here.
Let us start with certain nations or countries that have adopted the word yule for what they call christmas.
Now yule was known to be a pagan festival.
Here is a bit of information on it:
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yule)
(Yule or Yuletide ("Yule time" or "Yule season") is a festival historically observed by the Germanic peoples. Scholars have connected the original celebrations of Yule to the Wild Hunt, the god Odin, and the pagan Anglo-Saxon Mōdraniht. Later departing from its pagan roots, Yule underwent Christianised reformulation,[1] resulting in the term Christmastide....)
(https://www.learnreligions.com/history-of-yule-2562997#:~:text=European%20Origins%20of%20Yule%20In%20the%20Northern%20hemisphere%2C,this%20was%20a%20time%20of%20sacrifice%20as%20well.)
(...In the Northern hemisphere, the winter solstice has been celebrated for millennia. The Norse peoples, who called it Jul, viewed it as a time for much feasting and merrymaking. In addition, if the Icelandic sagas are to be believed, this was a time of sacrifice as well. Traditional customs such as the Yule log, the decorated tree, and wassailing can all be traced back to Norse origins.
The Celts of the British Isles celebrated midwinter as well. Although little is known today about the specifics of what they did, many traditions persist. According to the writings of Pliny the Elder, this is the time of year in which Druid priests sacrificed a white bull and gathered mistletoe in celebration....
...In pre-Christian Scandinavia, the Feast of Juul, or Yule, lasted for 12 days celebrating the rebirth of the sun and giving rise to the custom of burning a Yule log...)
(https://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/paganism/holydays/wintersolstice.shtml)
(...The Pagan celebration of Winter Solstice (also known as Yule) is one of the oldest winter celebrations in the world.
Ancient people were hunters and spent most of their time outdoors. The seasons and weather played a very important part in their lives. Because of this many ancient people had a great reverence for, and even worshipped the sun. The Norsemen of Northern Europe saw the sun as a wheel that changed the seasons. It was from the word for this wheel, houl, that the word yule is thought to have come. At mid-winter the Norsemen lit bonfires, told stories and drank sweet ale....)
So we could see that yule was totally pagan yet some nations have kept the pagan name for the yule festival, which is celebrated at the same time frame as Christmas, and just christanised it, which is not right to do in God's eyes.
God does not want us to christianise paganism.
And in Scandinivia, yule time was partly to celebrate the rebirth of the sun, and I read many groups were worshiping the sun god on yule ,even the Wiccans do so today.
I guess to them it was considered an holy night, but it is not holy to God, no not at all.
So the nations in the list to were the word yule. was in a certain sense christianised. are the Germans, Estonians and the Finnish, all use their word for yule to point to what is known in English as Christmas.
So one name was taken which was based on a pagan feast.
Then there is the word Christmas, of course which points to the mass of Christ, or Roman Catholic mass (eucharist celebration) , which nations that have adopted this form are of course the English but also the Dutch, and even Japan.
Now why did not all nations adopt the word Christmas? Who knows, but it is evident that not all words concerning this celebration mean the same, and who knows if, in some nations, if the name of the feast would have changed, if it would have gotten accepted.
So, so far we have the pagan yule, and the mass of Christ, now what about other nations?
Well in Latvia their word means "winter festival", well we know that at this time was the winter solstice festival.
Then there is French Noël, Italian Natale, Spanish Navidad, and Portuguese Natal, which all of these mean "of the birth" but even though these words do not have a bad meaning, the words themselves does not specify who's birth.
Now in Russia and Bulgaria, their words mean "birth of Christ", now yes that is more specific, but in and of itself the word Christ means messiah.
Many use the word messiah in other religions, even sun god worship, here is an example:
(http://jesus-is-savior.com/End%20of%20the%20World/babylon.htm)
(...After Nimrod died, Semiramis claimed Nimrod was the sun-god. She later had a child, Tammuz, whom she claimed was Nimrod reborn, supernaturally conceived, the promised seed, the “savior.” Semiramis developed a religion of mother and child worship. ...)
So here it shows a sun god, whom Semiramus mentioned Nimrod as being the sun god, but Tammuz was him reincarnated, thus Tammuz became the sun god, and was mentioned as a savior.
So when the word "the birth of Christ" is mentioned, which messiah are you referring to, the messiah of the bible, or another one?
And I will put all of this together in just a bit.
In Polish their word means "birth of God", and in Croatian their word means "of God or a god"
Well we know that Jesus was not born as God at his birth, for even though he was God, he was not born as God, but as a man, but in this winter Solstice thing, is points to the birth of a god.
In Mandarin Chinese, their word means the "birth of a sage".
And the meaning of the Romanian name seems to be " the name of a calling together of the people by priests — pre-Christian ones."
It is referring to the calling together of the people by pagan priests !!!
And then it mentions in certain languages, which I do not know what they are, that it mentions their meaning as "the birth of Jesus", but it mentions that this as been only done in recent times, but what was their word before this?
Who knows.
Now the word "the birth of Jesus" is 100% correct, but what are you mixing his birth with?
And the bible does mention this verse:
2Co 11:4 (4) For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.
Just because one might have a good title to a celebration, does not make the celebration any more acceptable to God if it is rooted in paganism, for God does not want any mixture, but rather he wants purity.
But notice all the titles?
With "christmas", you have the pagan ritual of the eucharist mass, with "yule", well you have a pagan feast during winter solstice, with the "winter festival", well at this time of the year it is the winter solstice, with "the birth of God" well we know that Jesus was not born as God, but the celebration of the winter solstice does have a celebration of the sun god's birth (a so called god being born), now with "the name of a calling together of the people by priests — pre-Christian ones" , it makes me think of either pagan priests like the druids, or modern pagan priests such as Catholic priests who preside over the mass.
And of course there is "birth of Christ" which that phrase itself can point to the birth of Jesus Christ, but this day is associated with December 25th, which is celebrated during the winter solstice, and has been representative of the birth of the sun god.
Now yes people may think of the Jesus of the bible at this time of year, but the way the feast was established, in almost every single way, was through the borrowing of paganism, to the appeasement of the pagans in some form.
There is no coincidence with these words, none at all.
These words are basically telling you the story.
When you mix a day that was purposely chosen to christianise paganism, so to try and so called gain the pagans, that is really dishonest and not a pure witness.
Do away with Christmas altogether, and if you want to celebrate the birth of Christ in a totally pure way, be separate from this celebration, and seek to celebrate his birth on a day that at least is closest possible to his birth, because you want to be as genuine with Christ as possible, and not on a day purposely chosen to appease the pagans.
Is the actual celebration of Christmas really of God, and is it really about Christ, is it really about his birthday, or is it a distraction, or a smokescreen?
Or in a big way, is it to tell lies about Christ's birth, to elevate the day the sun god was said to be born, and malign Christ's birth and name? And malign his birth in many ways, by calling it yule, and so on, and so forth.
Like I said before, the Babylonian religion was paganism without a mask, but Roman Catholicism is paganism with a mask, were people get fooled is because this form of paganism has a mask and Christian names on it, people automatically think it is acceptable to God, no it is just a paganism with a mask to it.
Joh 8:44 (44) Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
The devil is the father of lies, he is the one that adds all these lies to Christ's birth, and anything he can do to malign Christ, he will do.
And one thing one must ask himself, is to ask God, how he wants us to worship him, and follow the bible pattern to this, and not man's pattern, or man's babel tower to God.
And if one wants to celebrate his birth which is not a commandment, make sure all of it is based on purity, every single part, and I have never seen someone actually ask God how he would have his birth celebrated.
One thing above all, that I know, is he wants our worship.
I guess I will have to cover Santa Claus in my next part, and there will be a lot of surprising things to it, more than most may think.
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