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Post by frienduff on Jul 15, 2020 12:41:12 GMT -5
I am getting really good information on this pagan/christmas stuff, and it will reveal a lot, and it takes discernment these days, in seeing the truth of things and the lie. Even the bible in many ways can correct history, the bible is always accurate, the bible even mentions sun god worship (Eze 8:16 ), the title " Queen of heaven" (Jer 7:18 ), Tammuz (Eze 8:14 ), Nimrod (Gen 10:8), Babel (Gen 10:10). You even cannot trust many so called scholars today, here is an example of what I mean: (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nimrod)
(...However, this traditional identification of the cities built by Nimrod in Genesis is no longer accepted by modern scholars...)Yet even Jerome, which I do not bear witness with, affirms the story of Nimrod: (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nimrod)
(...Jerome, writing c. 390, explains in Hebrew Questions on Genesis that after Nimrod reigned in Babel, "he also reigned in Arach [Erech], that is, in Edissa; and in Achad [Accad], which is now called Nisibis; and in Chalanne [Calneh], which was later called Seleucia...)
So Jerome was able to acknowledge the story of Nimrod, but most modern day so called scholars reject it. Which shows when reading things, we need discernment, and the bible corrects many things, and tells the truth. You will see how well it corrects things. Yes indeed my friend we are being lied to big time . scholars can keep they stuff . ALL we need is JESUS , all we need is the HOLY GHOST . This falling away is a monster giller . and its cloaked with words like love , and so forth . Some would marvel if i told you all the very things the HOLY GHOST revealed to me , even as a babe about our churches , and what is going on . And years later , even as of late , ITS ALL GETTING CONFIRMED BIG TIME . THEY are COMING IN and have been COMING IN as though they are of us . THEY come into a baptist camp as a baptist , yet purposefully and ever slowly they planted doubts . they do the same with any group . With any faith , and with all them false religoins too . And giller , they LIE to the people on purpose and they KNOW , THEY KNOW THEY ARE LYING . they will act like they agree with you and yet they dont and they are there to simply keep swaying the group they are over . THEY BEEN BUSTED . SEE i knew this was happening . and folks thought ol frienduffs elevator was falling short and i was all about conspiracy . NO I WAS NOT . the SPIRIT , GODS MERCY , HIS GRACE was keeping me safe and showing me things . VERY specific things . AND NOW some folks are coming out and confirming those things . GILLER THEY DUPED US ALL MAN . GET THE HECK OUTTA ANY CHURCH , Whose focus is unity and they leave off the severity of GOD . GET OUT . NEVER LOOK back . there are also those now leading churches who sat under these men and were deconstructed . GILLER they are super slick and TODD whtite , francis chan and scores of others , ARE AMONST THEM . FLEE YE BABYLON . FLEE IT NOW everyone . if anyone is attached to any popular teacher , FLEE IT NOW . THEY are of one spirit now , and yes they do not agree on all things BUT what they do agree on is , UNITY . GET OUT . EVERYONE GET OUT NOW . TURN tbn off , let no man or woman listen to these men and women of belial for one moment longer . WE GOT all we need RIGHT NOW . JESUS CHRIST and we got ONE BOOK . THE BIBLE . we will have to look out for ourselves giller and for one another . THE DELUSOIN ABOUNDS BIG TIME . AND ITS GONNA TAKE everyone . every human being WHO IS NOT JESUS CENTERED but rather men centered .
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Post by frienduff on Jul 15, 2020 12:48:01 GMT -5
The lambs of narrow way must look out for one another now . THE LORD is all we need . flee them teachers fast , most all that i have seen are infected BIG TIME with this delusion . and they are slick . WE must now look out for one another . GOD is with US . IMMANUEL . Open bibles and learn it well . stay in it and keep refreshed . BATTLE TIME . And i got news . We might very well be betrayed by those within . THE ENEMY STOPS AT NOTHING NOW . And comes to take captive all , whose names are not written in the Lambs book of life . WE gonna have to look out for one another . Also if we are in some places where we gather with others in person , Advise them to come here too . all christains can fellowship . I know ol friendfuff scares some folks with my fully persuaded mind that i wont budge an ounce from doctrine . But dont let it scare ya , ITS NEEDED . SO FEW DO ITANYMORE . BRING people you know here as well . WE need all the christain fellowship we can get and so do they .
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Post by Cletus on Jul 15, 2020 18:02:10 GMT -5
ApostasyI am getting close to sharing, some things I have been studying via history and church history. And I do not know how many people realize that in some form, after a manner, and through some differing methods, is that history is about to repeat itself, and is actually repeating itself right now. This is what Paul said concerning the Ephesus church in his time: Act 20:17 (17) And from Miletus he sent to Ephesus, and called the elders of the church. Act 20:18 (18) And when they were come to him, he said unto them, Ye know, from the first day that I came into Asia, after what manner I have been with you at all seasons, Act 20:28-30 (28) Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. (29) For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. (30) Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them. So Paul had called for the elders of the church of the Ephesians to meet him at Miletus, for he had something to say to them. And Acts chapter 20 is dated to around 60 A.D.Here is what Adam Clarke says about Paul's departing: (Adam Clarke)(Acts 20:29 After my departing - Referring, most likely, to his death; for few of these evils took place during his life....)
And I bear witness to this, for it seems that only few of these things happened in the Ephesus church when Paul was alive. But in a much bigger manner after he was off the scene. And even though Paul gave them this warning of when he would be off the scene in the book of Acts, it seems that he wrote his specific epistle to the Ephesians in A.D. 64, which shows that he spoke to them again, which was of the things which are contained in the book of Ephesians, but it is said that Paul's martyrdom happened most likely in A.D. 65, which some say A.D. 66 or A.D. 67. Now concerning the Apostle John, he wrote the book of Revelations in A.D. 96. And this is what it says of the Ephesus church of John's time: Rev 2:1-5 (1) Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write; These things saith he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks; (2) I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars: (3) And hast borne, and hast patience, and for my name's sake hast laboured, and hast not fainted. (4) Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love. (5) Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent. Them leaving their first love was so severe that if they did not repent, and come back and do the first works, God would remove their candlestick, which means he would remove them as being one of his churches, for the 7 candlesticks represent the seven churches. So by the end of John's ministry, the Ephesus church was not in good shape, and even after the Apostle John came off the scene which it is said that he died around 100 A.D., it seems that the church as a whole, went into deeper apostasy, especially starting in a bigger way in the 200's, but in a tremendous way, in the 300's. Most churches of the day, were starting to receive doctrines such as the clergy over the laity (Nicolaitans), and the merging of church and state, and other things, which eventually gave rise to the Roman Catholic church, which God calls a whore, and calls her mystery Babylon the great, the mother of harlots. So the falling away of that day, gave rise to a pagan church, which sought to merge Christianity with paganism, and really you cannot do that, for you cannot mix God's pure ways with the ways of the pagans or heathen, because if you do, it will give rise to a false religion, or a cult. And that is what has happened, there were many things that the so called church of the 300's (and even 200's to some degree), to were they merge pagan practices with their brand of Christianity. And it was only few who were not caught into this, but most were at that time caught up into this, and eventually accepted the new brand of so called Christianity, which was Roman Catholicism, as Christianity. And today, it is this whore who is causing many churches to fall away from the faith, through its ecumenical merging and so on. In one form, it is history repeating itself, but now the Catholic church is crying, come back to mama. For they call themselves the mother church, and she is leading this ecumenical movement. i hinted at this in a post i made recently. i didnt go into as much detail as you have shown, but the church needs to revive the love. we are at a time in history where its not about oh look how wicked these are. no. its time to look in the mirror. its time to examine our own hearts. are we really loving our neighbor? are we really loving God? if all we do is point out how this godless generation is wicked where are we to be used by God? how even?
what does the book say over and over? behold:
Psa 66:18 If I regard iniquity in my heart, the Lord will not hear me:
was the city of ninevah not wicked? did they not war with israel every chance they got... yes. and even still God told Jonah... go preach repentance or the city would be destroyed. Is the sign of Jonah preaching repentance... or is it also one of Gods own needing to repent and DO God's will. even though Jonah did it in His heart he was desiring ninevah to be destroyed and that is apparent in Jonahs own words when He basicly said... see God this is why i went to tarshish because i knew you are a Good God who will turn away their destruction IF they would repent. Jonah wanted them to be destroyed. let us ask ourselves honestly... do we really desire the wicked to perish? if we answer yes we need to repent ourself and also we need Gods help in and thru us to LOVE.
the new testament was written in greek but they spoke Aramaic. when Jesus asked peter do you love me more than these.... the word for love there is hoopa. it means "to burn" and God is a consuming fire.... search the scriptures most often when it mentions the Holy Spirit it also mentions fire. I believe this fire is the burning love. I believe its this love that will bring about the anointing to do kingdom work. lots of people are Spirit filled but if they dont got the love... they dont got the anointing.
let us earnestly pray... am i a clanging brass or gong? where do i lack. but i can already tell you... its going to be in the amount of time we are walking in the Spirit. its are we in constant prayer... are we staying in His presence? is peace our guide?
can you remember when you first got saved? how you desired for nothing more than to read the word, pray, and praise. to just spend time with Him? many today are consumed with the cares of this world.
and even now The Spirit is calling... Return to Me.
let us pray that God would re-light our fire. that we would hoopa for Him once again.
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Post by frienduff on Jul 15, 2020 18:25:44 GMT -5
how you desired for nothing more than to read the word, pray, and praise. to just spend time with Him
Read the WORD , pray and PRAISE . YES INDEED . Yes indeed . SO HANDS UP , ITS PRAISE TIME MY FRIENDS .
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Post by Giller on Jul 15, 2020 23:10:42 GMT -5
I would say it is a time of being in tune with God, and what he wants, it is a time to allow God to do his work in us, and yes look in the mirror, but also warn of the dangers.
It is a time to just simply adore him, love your neighbor as yourself, and seek to be rightly motivated in what we do in Christ.
Heb 4:12 (12) For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
We need to love with all of God's love, which yes includes doing good to others, and warning out of a truly caring heart.
Let us not neglect any part of the word, otherwise that is when the devil tends to get a foot hold, and let his word direct you, and his peace keep you.
Php 4:7 (7) And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.
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Post by frienduff on Jul 16, 2020 8:25:49 GMT -5
I would say it is a time of being in tune with God, and what he wants, it is a time to allow God to do his work in us, and yes look in the mirror, but also warn of the dangers. It is a time to just simply adore him, love your neighbor as yourself, and seek to be rightly motivated in what we do in Christ. Heb 4:12 (12) For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. We need to love with all of God's love, which yes includes doing good to others, and warning out of a truly caring heart. Let us not neglect any part of the word, otherwise that is when the devil tends to get a foot hold, and let his word direct you, and his peace keep you. Php 4:7 (7) And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus. Spot on right giller . cause as we know its also what even those apostels did . we cannot cease to warn about the dire dangers . at the same time we must have the increase of the first pure faith within us . Look at a good example to the church of ephesus . GOD commends them for testing all men , trying them and finding the false ones as liars , and for the other good things they were doing . YET at the same time was reminding them RETURN to the first faith or else . We see in another message to several churches about how it angered God to allow false doctrines in and to be taught . Even telling another church that he has that also against them , even ALLOWING a false one to teach or to seduce the people . SO WE cannot let go of that either . Any love that would have us to begin to take off from also heeding the severity of GOD and warning others , DOES NOT COME FROM GOD . its part of that sensual love and it will lead to the lie . We must really learn that pattern well that JESUS taught and the apostles taught . IF we want to KNOW what the first churches beleieved , the answer is , READ THOSE BIBLES . ITS IN THERE . ITS ALL IN THERE . let us beware of men , and take HEED TO DOCTRINE , HEEDING the SPIRIT and testing all spirits BY sound doctrine . OH giller this geneartion is in upmost dire danger now . I had to flee a site cause they flat out reject the gosple . I mean they actually beleive this inclusive lie . ITS SPREADING GILLER . ITS SPREADING .
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Post by frienduff on Jul 16, 2020 8:33:46 GMT -5
It was sad my friends . i watched them war over they politics and yet they have ONE thing in common , this universal all inclusive religous mindset . THAT will be what UNITES THEM and i have seen it . THERE IT IS in black and white . the inclusive lie is what will unite any and all who follow not the lamb . Yes they are not going to agree on all one anothers doctrines and beleifs . BUT they GONNA AGREE on this inclusive religious stuff , and they do unite AGAINST THE ONE TRUE GOSPLE . ITS HAPPENING BIG TIME NOW . the delusion has and is running its course and it will lead them to the man of sin and against the true lambs as well . We must spend more time in prayer , in the bible , in exhorting one another of the things that truly be of GOD . increase in thanking and praising THE LORD as well . Judas , betrayest thou the son of man with a kiss . WELL that is coming for the churches too . THEY pretend to be amongst us as one of us , yet come to decieve and will also soon deliver us over unto men of the new govt . JESUS warned us how the end would look . And so did the apostels , so do the holy scrips . AND when it says days like lott and noah , inquity abounding and the love for God etc waxing cold and betrayals and hard times . It means what it says . DELUSION will abound and it has . Even a strong delusion and many will betray many . But this is not what i am hearing these days . ITS oh a big awaking , OH world peace and unity , OH an inclusive love god , oh this and oh that and it all contradicts scriptures . WE IN TROUBLE FOLKS . IN DIRE PERIL and TROUBLE this generation truly is . WE Must cling to JESUS and never look back . CLING TO HIM and LEARN HIM WELL .
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Post by frienduff on Jul 16, 2020 8:35:59 GMT -5
And be watching , oh yes be watching . for ye know not the hour YOUR LORD DOES COME . Be alert and have those senses excercised in sound doctrine and the heeding of the SPIRIT .
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Post by Giller on Jul 16, 2020 9:25:05 GMT -5
It is always first submission to God, then he leads us in the thing he wants us to do.
And there are many who use to warn of things, and have got caught up in this false love gospel, and yes God does convict us, and shows us, that maybe our attitude in this area has to change or what not, but be careful children of God, because the devil can also come to deceive, and cause us, if we listen, to get into a so called gospel, to were you do not warn of things any more, and some who were serving God really well at one time, now would almost think that it is prideful to warn, for they will say who do I think that I am to warn people of this or that, I am not better than them, but warning is not based on that at all, and you must do so in a caring heart, you do not need to be perfect to warn, but of course need to be a doer of the word.
This is a major trap many ministers are getting into, but also there is the trap to were you start warning in a wrongly motivated spirit, and forget the other parts of the word such a worshiping God, so let us be careful to heed all of his word, and really it is just being submissive to God, and then he will lead you.
But also let us be careful in not trying to make every one us, because we are all called into the ministry that God has called us into, some are called to pray more than others, some are called to warn more than others, some are called to write songs, but all of us, in one form or another are called to pray, to warn, to encourage and so on, and so on.
Put it this way, if you lost your worship for God, you know something is wrong.
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Post by Giller on Jul 16, 2020 9:37:02 GMT -5
I think that in a big way, in most of Christian circles, that things are performance based, rather than looking to Jesus for everything based.
For Jesus is the answer for dealing with sin, and for having victory, and for our worthiness, it is all in him.
When arrogancy comes in, or not warning any more comes in, because you think your worth is in your performance, or just simply a lack of being hungry for more of Jesus, and adoring and worshiping him, when these are lacking, we need to run to the cross, and repent of whatever needs to be repented of, and take heed to were we went wrong.
And never look to your performance, just submit yourself to God, and then he can do his sanctifying work in you, otherwise you will be trying to change yourself, and just really aggravating the thing, and really your eyes will be off the cross.
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Post by Giller on Jul 16, 2020 9:53:24 GMT -5
We need to be submissive driven, rather than performance driven, for it is only in submission that God can perform his work in us.
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Post by Giller on Jul 16, 2020 9:56:32 GMT -5
Submission to Christ and what he has done will bring fruit, performance on the other hand will bring no fruit.
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Post by frienduff on Jul 16, 2020 11:12:17 GMT -5
Submission to Christ and what he has done will bring fruit, performance on the other hand will bring no fruit. And here it is . what i say next will run more folks off than bubonic plague . WHAT do we THINK SUBMISSION TO CHRIST MEANS . IT MEANS OBEDIANCE UNTO EVERY WORD HE SPOKE . SUMBIT YOURSELVES , may as well say OBEY . Wives submit to husbands etc , church must submit to JESUS not to men and feelings . JESUS said it best . IF ONE LOVES ME , then they hear and OBEY , DO , MY SAYINGS . submission has NOTHING to do with these emotion led feelings . I PROMISE it has everything to do TO WHAT WE LOVE and WHO WE LOVE . AND if JESUS is truly in us , WE WOULD have the LOVE OF TRUTH ON OURHEARTS . This will run more folks off than a corona cough . SUMBIT TO GOD , MEANS , SUBMIT TO GOD . Folks either we serve Christ which means we serve GOD , or we decieve and have decieved ourselves . WHY do you think them apostels sounded so IDENTICAL TO JESUS and preached just like he did . BRING EVERY thought even captive to what , to THE OBEDIANCE OF JESUS CHRIST . WE IN TROUBLE . too many get goose bumps over all this wordly sensual stuff and think its the holy ghost . BUT IT AINT . ITS THEY OWN FLESH and dark spirits seducing and decieving them . And worse , they love to have it so . WHO WE LOVE is WHOSE WE ARE , WHO WE LOVE IS WHO WE OBEY . Ol frienduff knows most folks dont want a thing todo with my constant reminders . fact is most places i go , folks even worry , what he is gonna say next . They even scared to bring me around church folks . Even though they know i am speaking truth . they fear somehow i am gonna run folks off by my constant reminders . WELL if constant reminders of truth run folks off , THEN LET THEM RUN OFF cause lambs wont and dont run from reminders . THEY EMBRACE TRUTH . Before this is all over many who were even with me are gonna show me the spine my friend . Cause i wont be budging . IF i spot a false teacher , then that thing of belial will be warned against . AND YES its gonna hurt feelings . but better to be offended and then perhaps repent than to flatter and tone things down with the tongue and watch them fall away . LONG HAUL MY FRIEND . I AM IN IT FOR THE LONG HAUL . NONE ofthis fake dead end cushi hushi fake dead death twice dead sensual love unity lets jus get along stuff for me . And i am upfront about it . NO hiding how i feel .
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Post by frienduff on Jul 16, 2020 11:19:10 GMT -5
It is always first submission to God, then he leads us in the thing he wants us to do. And there are many who use to warn of things, and have got caught up in this false love gospel, and yes God does convict us, and shows us, that maybe our attitude in this area has to change or what not, but be careful children of God, because the devil can also come to deceive, and cause us, if we listen, to get into a so called gospel, to were you do not warn of things any more, and some who were serving God really well at one time, now would almost think that it is prideful to warn, for they will say who do I think that I am to warn people of this or that, I am not better than them, but warning is not based on that at all, and you must do so in a caring heart, you do not need to be perfect to warn, but of course need to be a doer of the word. This is a major trap many ministers are getting into, but also there is the trap to were you start warning in a wrongly motivated spirit, and forget the other parts of the word such a worshiping God, so let us be careful to heed all of his word, and really it is just being submissive to God, and then he will lead you. But also let us be careful in not trying to make every one us, because we are all called into the ministry that God has called us into, some are called to pray more than others, some are called to warn more than others, some are called to write songs, but all of us, in one form or another are called to pray, to warn, to encourage and so on, and so on. Put it this way, if you lost your worship for God, you know something is wrong. DING DING . SPOT ON RIGHT GILLER . I have watched , i have cried tears , i have begged and pleaded about this very thing . only to watch even those who were once with me , TURN AWAY FROM GOD . ITS A SPELL MY FRIEND . they go under a spell and start thinking its time to tone things down . to ease up . they get a very strong and false peace about this . I SEEN IT . I have watched the most viligant and diligent men fall to it . Course that begs the question where was their heart . But still i have seen it . I watched it happen much more than once over the years . This hurts to see it and what i say next even hurts to have to say it , but even folks here are gonna turn on me . Not everyone of course . but we got some getting caught up on some FEELINGS . and if they wont heed the warnings to flee they favs , as in favorite men , THEY GONNA TURN on me in time as they fall away from the truth . SO i am gonna say it again . FLEE that man of satan and belila francis chan , todd white and the entire lott of those movements . THEY are Liars and work for satan . Now i tried to warn us , i do not and will not sugar coat stuff . But do know and understand , ITS OUTTA LOVE for those i warn . its not to be mean or vindictive , ITS OUTTA LOVE i do warn .
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Post by frienduff on Jul 16, 2020 11:26:15 GMT -5
It is always first submission to God, then he leads us in the thing he wants us to do. And there are many who use to warn of things, and have got caught up in this false love gospel, and yes God does convict us, and shows us, that maybe our attitude in this area has to change or what not, but be careful children of God, because the devil can also come to deceive, and cause us, if we listen, to get into a so called gospel, to were you do not warn of things any more, and some who were serving God really well at one time, now would almost think that it is prideful to warn, for they will say who do I think that I am to warn people of this or that, I am not better than them, but warning is not based on that at all, and you must do so in a caring heart, you do not need to be perfect to warn, but of course need to be a doer of the word. This is a major trap many ministers are getting into, but also there is the trap to were you start warning in a wrongly motivated spirit, and forget the other parts of the word such a worshiping God, so let us be careful to heed all of his word, and really it is just being submissive to God, and then he will lead you. But also let us be careful in not trying to make every one us, because we are all called into the ministry that God has called us into, some are called to pray more than others, some are called to warn more than others, some are called to write songs, but all of us, in one form or another are called to pray, to warn, to encourage and so on, and so on. Put it this way, if you lost your worship for God, you know something is wrong. problem is most think they have the worship for God . this is some scary stuff my friend . most folks think cause they can dance , sing praises , thank God continously they somehow have the worship of GOD . But i am telling us all , most DO NOT . WORSHIP OF GOD CANNOT BE SEPERATED FROM OBEDIANCE TO GOD . IT CANT . FEELLINGS WONT CUT IT . WORSHIPPING GOD IN SPIRIT AND IN TRUTH . THAT IS WHAT GOD DESIRES . and what did GOD tell the jews even . WHAT was HIS Desire for them , even under the old covenant . that they would obey HIM from the heart . FROM the heart . i tell us all that trangression of the law IS SIN . I remind us all that sin is trangression and SIN is not HIS Will for us . OBEIDANCE UNTO HIM , IS HIS WILL , SO HE MADE THE WAY IN JESUS TO DO SO only we better HEED the SPIRIT and not the flesh . Folks are in dire trouble now . AND i warn and remind us all , not even narrow way is exempt from temptation which can cause one to fall . WE bettter CLING to THEM BIBLES , TO GOD , TO JESUS and PRAY , and i mean PRAY that ye enter not into tempation . cause we got some that already are . FEELINGS aint gonna cut it . ONLY TRUTH DOES .
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