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Post by frienduff on Aug 23, 2020 9:17:59 GMT -5
Of course Jesus meant what He said......but I believe that still raises some questions......and can't help but feel there is more to be mined out and gotten hold of with the plot here. Sometimes we can be too quick to draw a line around what we think we know and miss out on understanding things further....what the bible calls HIDDEN treasures. So SEEK and we will find. Let's consider that. If peter, or anyone for that matter, denies Jesus, and Jesus says that if we deny him, he will deny us, what hidden message is in that? It seems like he is being very straight forward in what he said. It is the same way with if we are ashamed of him before the Father, he will be ashamed of us. If you do see something hidden in this that I am missing, I would love to know what it is?
But WHEN Thou art converted . Let us always remember those words too . AKA , but when you have REPENTED and been CONVERTED BACK . Just as even james said , brethren if any of you does ERR from the TRUTH and one CONVERTS the sinner from the error of his ways , HE has saved A SOUL FROM DEATH . THEY KNEW the dangers in erring from the truth . And if one did , THEY MUST be converted back , OR IT IS DEATH . IF we deny HIM , HE WILL DENY US . Yep .
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Post by frienduff on Aug 23, 2020 9:21:30 GMT -5
And now a reminder . Since we are on the topic of DENYING . Peter denied JESUS by mouth and Said I DO NOT KNOW HIM . But can we also claim to know HIM and yet STILL DENY HIM .
Well lets remember what paul wrote to timothy . IF any does not provide for his own , specailly those of his own household , HE has DENIED THE FAITH , and is WORSE than EVEN AN INFIDEL .
SO may all remember and be reminded , that to tell folks we must be hearers and DOERS of HIS WORD , that this is NOT LEGLALISM . ITS TRUTH .
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Post by watchful on Aug 23, 2020 9:59:50 GMT -5
Well, for example in this case, that Satan desired to sift Peter and how that was like Job, and the fact that Jesus prayed Peter's faith would not fail, so did it? Questions such as whether being denied before the Father and not being forgiven by the Father applies at the judgment or during the person's lifetime...and if it's during one's lifetime, what is God's intention for the person, and how would it play out in their life. There is more to be mined with these things. Hidden treasure is scriptural in itself.....it certainly doesn't nullify scripture but it can give us a fuller picture and understanding of scripture and of God. What does this scripture mean, that if we think we know we do not yet know as we ought? And that happened as well . Remember what JESUS also told peter , AND WHEN thou ART CONVERTED ..................aka PETER was gonna have to repent and be restored . CONVERTED TO FAITH IN JESUS . JESUS KNEW this was all gonna happen . HE told peter , HE was gonna fail , BUT WHEN he was CONVERTED , aka repented and turned BACK TO FAITH IN JESUS . SO JESUS also knew peter was gonna repent . Cause we have too . If any fails , they must repent . Brethren , if any of you does ERR from truth and one CONVERTS HIM BACK , exactly . Good thing peter did not just die in that state of unrepentance , or he would have been DENIED . BUT JESUS KNEW all things . Peter came back , BY Grace led to repentance , and came back STRONGER in the SPIRIT than ever . OH i know you already KNOW all of this . But i felt reminders are good for us all . Yes, converted from their error, but I am not sure that is talking about being converted back to the faith if they had never fallen away from it. Is it not possible that someone can commit a sin or believe a wrong doctrine and still be in the faith? Goodness, in that case then I think we have likely all fallen away from the faith many times since we began, yikes, especially in our immaturity, and what do we do about sins committed unknowingly, more yikes because we can't even repent of those. Regarding Peter, it does seem that he was sick with sorry immediately once he realized what he had done. Scripture talks about those whose root is shallow and such do fall away when trouble comes because of the word....their faith fails and they fall away in heart as well as in mouth. Myself I question whether we are to understand that that is what happened to whole-hearted Peter here...all the more since Jesus prayed specifically that he would not. But yes he became stronger because he had LEARNED AND GROWN through the testing....he was not yet matured at the time of his epic fail, but that experience did help him to grow. We have to know there are reasons why Peter is so much written about...the good the bad and the ugly, heh. Anyway, lots to mull over with these things.
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Post by 2fw8212a on Aug 23, 2020 11:13:53 GMT -5
... But can we also claim to know HIM and yet STILL DENY HIM . ... ❝They profess to know God, but in works they deny Him,
being abominable, disobedient, and disqualified for every good work.❞ - Titus 1:16
❝He who says, “I know Him,”
and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.❞ - 1 John 2:4
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Post by watchful on Aug 23, 2020 11:52:29 GMT -5
Let's consider that. If peter, or anyone for that matter, denies Jesus, and Jesus says that if we deny him, he will deny us, what hidden message is in that? It seems like he is being very straight forward in what he said. It is the same way with if we are ashamed of him before the Father, he will be ashamed of us. If you do see something hidden in this that I am missing, I would love to know what it is?
Well, for example in this case, that Satan desired to sift Peter and how that was like Job, and the fact that Jesus prayed Peter's faith would not fail, so did it? Questions such as whether being denied before the Father and not being forgiven by the Father applies at the judgment or during the person's lifetime...and if it's during one's lifetime, what is God's intention for the person, and how would it play out in their life. There is more to be mined with these things. Hidden treasure is scriptural in itself.....it certainly doesn't nullify scripture but it can give us a fuller picture and understanding of scripture and of God. What does this scripture mean, that if we think we know we do not yet know as we ought? How deep do we want to go? How close to the King do we want to get? It's about growing and increasing. Building on the foundation (but do be careful how we build). Eze 47:3-6 And when the man that had the line in his hand went forth eastward, he measured a thousand cubits, and he brought me through the waters; the waters were to the ankles. Again he measured a thousand, and brought me through the waters; the waters were to the knees. Again he measured a thousand, and brought me through; the waters were to the loins. Afterward he measured a thousand; and it was a river that I could not pass over: for the waters were risen, waters to swim in, a river that could not be passed over And he said unto me, Son of man, hast thou seen this? Then he brought me, and caused me to return to the brink of the river. Sng 6:8-9 There are threescore queens, and fourscore concubines, and virgins without number. My dove, my undefiled is but one; she is the only one of her mother, she is the choice one of her that bare her. The daughters saw her, and blessed her; yea, the queens and the concubines, and they praised her.
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Post by John on Aug 23, 2020 12:03:41 GMT -5
But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his tresspass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die. Ezekiel 18:24
Again, when the wicked man turneth away from his wickedness that he hath committed, and doeth that which is lawful and right, he shall save his soul alive. Because he considereth, and turneth away from all his transgressions that he hath committed, he shall surely live, he shall not die. Ezekiel 18:27-28
I just happened to be reading through Ezekiel, so I find it interesting you went to that book. I do believe that a person can be saved today, deny the Lord tomorrow and be lost, reconsider his sin and repent, and be saved again in a week or so. The prodigal son was saved, went in the hog pen, died spiritually, and was made alive again. As such, I do believe that Peter was saved, lost, and then saved again.
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Post by watchful on Aug 23, 2020 14:17:27 GMT -5
But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his tresspass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die. Ezekiel 18:24
Again, when the wicked man turneth away from his wickedness that he hath committed, and doeth that which is lawful and right, he shall save his soul alive. Because he considereth, and turneth away from all his transgressions that he hath committed, he shall surely live, he shall not die. Ezekiel 18:27-28
I just happened to be reading through Ezekiel, so I find it interesting you went to that book. I do believe that a person can be saved today, deny the Lord tomorrow and be lost, reconsider his sin and repent, and be saved again in a week or so. The prodigal son was saved, went in the hog pen, died spiritually, and was made alive again. As such, I do believe that Peter was saved, lost, and then saved again. okay brother, thank you for the discussion. Bless you.
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Post by frienduff on Aug 23, 2020 14:40:50 GMT -5
And that happened as well . Remember what JESUS also told peter , AND WHEN thou ART CONVERTED ..................aka PETER was gonna have to repent and be restored . CONVERTED TO FAITH IN JESUS . JESUS KNEW this was all gonna happen . HE told peter , HE was gonna fail , BUT WHEN he was CONVERTED , aka repented and turned BACK TO FAITH IN JESUS . SO JESUS also knew peter was gonna repent . Cause we have too . If any fails , they must repent . Brethren , if any of you does ERR from truth and one CONVERTS HIM BACK , exactly . Good thing peter did not just die in that state of unrepentance , or he would have been DENIED . BUT JESUS KNEW all things . Peter came back , BY Grace led to repentance , and came back STRONGER in the SPIRIT than ever . OH i know you already KNOW all of this . But i felt reminders are good for us all . Yes, converted from their error, but I am not sure that is talking about being converted back to the faith if they had never fallen away from it. Is it not possible that someone can commit a sin or believe a wrong doctrine and still be in the faith? Goodness, in that case then I think we have likely all fallen away from the faith many times since we began, yikes, especially in our immaturity, and what do we do about sins committed unknowingly, more yikes because we can't even repent of those. Regarding Peter, it does seem that he was sick with sorry immediately once he realized what he had done. Scripture talks about those whose root is shallow and such do fall away when trouble comes because of the word....their faith fails and they fall away in heart as well as in mouth. Myself I question whether we are to understand that that is what happened to whole-hearted Peter here...all the more since Jesus prayed specifically that he would not. But yes he became stronger because he had LEARNED AND GROWN through the testing....he was not yet matured at the time of his epic fail, but that experience did help him to grow. We have to know there are reasons why Peter is so much written about...the good the bad and the ugly, heh. Anyway, lots to mull over with these things. You close , but no quite my dear sister . If we read carefully , we know something . SO LONG as one is in the error , THEY ARE NOT FOLLOWING JESUS . ITS WHY they must be CONVERTED back to the real FAITH IN HIM . PRAY and let that one sink in . He was sick with sorrow , cause GOD made him AWARE OF HIS ERROR . JUST as HE DOES ALL LAMBS WHO ERR . try SLEEPING while you in error . Go ahead sister try and tell me , IF you are in error , or when you have been , DID YOU HAVE WONDERFUL PEACE . HECK NO . only MISERY ABOUNDED . THAT be the WORK OF GOD , to cause us to SORROW TO REPENTANCE . HE is the ONE IN CONTROL . AND if we have the SPIRIT , we too would correct , even the whiff of error in other folks . But know this . men and women are not the same in one aspect . MEN will have a more authorative approach women a more submissive approach . BOTH are grave and full of compassion . The man is no better than the woman. No wiser , no smarter , FOR JESUS is the only one who reveals truth . But let not the emotions rule the heart . Our thinkers can be highly deadly . our rats and our mice in our skulls must be silenced . AND ONLY BIBLICAL TRUTH can do that . ONLY the SPIRIT can do that . When the mouse runs for the wrong cheese , SHUT IT DOWN . Let us not overthink the simplicity in JESUS . ERROR must be ceased asap . WHEN JESUS saw error , HOW DID HE approach error . When the apostels saw error , HOW DID they approach it . Let not emotions rule the day . LET TRUTH RULE THE HEART . There is only one thing to MULL over . IF JESUS SAID IT HEED IT and OBEY IT . IF i tell my son , son you gonna get a spanky if you dont heed me . I MEAN what i say . AND when he dont , HE GETTETH THE SPANKY . What JESUS said is black and white simple . IF YE DENY ME , I DENY YOU . THUS if any does err , and THEY DO , REMIND THEM , HE WHO DENIES JESUS , GETS DENIED , PEROID . Watch how fast that approach works . Black ...........................and White . SIMPLICITY .
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Post by frienduff on Aug 23, 2020 14:45:21 GMT -5
But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his tresspass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die. Ezekiel 18:24
Again, when the wicked man turneth away from his wickedness that he hath committed, and doeth that which is lawful and right, he shall save his soul alive. Because he considereth, and turneth away from all his transgressions that he hath committed, he shall surely live, he shall not die. Ezekiel 18:27-28
I just happened to be reading through Ezekiel, so I find it interesting you went to that book. I do believe that a person can be saved today, deny the Lord tomorrow and be lost, reconsider his sin and repent, and be saved again in a week or so. The prodigal son was saved, went in the hog pen, died spiritually, and was made alive again. As such, I do believe that Peter was saved, lost, and then saved again. JOHN YOU SPOT ON RIGHT . LOOK what PAUL SAID , So then SHE IS DEAD WHILE SHE LIVETH IN SIN . as long as we live in error , WE ARE DEAD , but if we repent we are ALIVE AGAIN . PAUL KNEW IT . YOU SOUND THIS OUT , TILL THE LAST and FINAL BREATH . I MEAN , TO THE LAST AND FINAL BREATH . SO Then he that liveth in sin is DEAD WHILE HE LIVETH IN SIN . SOUND IT JOHN . SOUND IT OUT , never apolgize , never feel guilty , JUST SPEAK THE TRUTH .
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Post by frienduff on Aug 23, 2020 14:52:51 GMT -5
Well, for example in this case, that Satan desired to sift Peter and how that was like Job, and the fact that Jesus prayed Peter's faith would not fail, so did it? Questions such as whether being denied before the Father and not being forgiven by the Father applies at the judgment or during the person's lifetime...and if it's during one's lifetime, what is God's intention for the person, and how would it play out in their life. There is more to be mined with these things. Hidden treasure is scriptural in itself.....it certainly doesn't nullify scripture but it can give us a fuller picture and understanding of scripture and of God. What does this scripture mean, that if we think we know we do not yet know as we ought? How deep do we want to go? How close to the King do we want to get? It's about growing and increasing. Building on the foundation (but do be careful how we build). Eze 47:3-6 And when the man that had the line in his hand went forth eastward, he measured a thousand cubits, and he brought me through the waters; the waters were to the ankles. Again he measured a thousand, and brought me through the waters; the waters were to the knees. Again he measured a thousand, and brought me through; the waters were to the loins. Afterward he measured a thousand; and it was a river that I could not pass over: for the waters were risen, waters to swim in, a river that could not be passed over And he said unto me, Son of man, hast thou seen this? Then he brought me, and caused me to return to the brink of the river. Sng 6:8-9 There are threescore queens, and fourscore concubines, and virgins without number. My dove, my undefiled is but one; she is the only one of her mother, she is the choice one of her that bare her. The daughters saw her, and blessed her; yea, the queens and the concubines, and they praised her. There are two depths . ONE draws us closer to JESUS , the other buries us in our own pit . How deep do i want to GO ................the depth that reaches heaven by the SIMPLICITY OF JESUS not the depth of our mind which digs our own pit wherein we bury ourselves . If our depth is not the depth the apostels had , we are digging our own hole . rest assured paul and the apostels were well advanced in the depths of the LORD which ascends the heart into the heavenly realm . Peter himself said , WE have the more SURE WORD of prophecy CHURCH . NEVER let the last days prophets fool us . AND WOE THEY DO TRY . never let our minds decieve us , and WOE IT WILL TRY . IF any approach towards SIN and error has not this ring , LET IT NOT BE ONCE NAMED , IT COMETH NOT OF GOD . THEMS apostels KNEW JESUS . LET US KNOW what THEY TAUGHT WELL . our minds can indeed be our own enemy . Let us ponder on this simplicty . And let us be encouraged IN THE KING .
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Post by John on Aug 23, 2020 14:55:24 GMT -5
Yes, converted from their error, but I am not sure that is talking about being converted back to the faith if they had never fallen away from it. Is it not possible that someone can commit a sin or believe a wrong doctrine and still be in the faith? Goodness, in that case then I think we have likely all fallen away from the faith many times since we began, yikes, especially in our immaturity, and what do we do about sins committed unknowingly, more yikes because we can't even repent of those. Regarding Peter, it does seem that he was sick with sorry immediately once he realized what he had done. Scripture talks about those whose root is shallow and such do fall away when trouble comes because of the word....their faith fails and they fall away in heart as well as in mouth. Myself I question whether we are to understand that that is what happened to whole-hearted Peter here...all the more since Jesus prayed specifically that he would not. But yes he became stronger because he had LEARNED AND GROWN through the testing....he was not yet matured at the time of his epic fail, but that experience did help him to grow. We have to know there are reasons why Peter is so much written about...the good the bad and the ugly, heh. Anyway, lots to mull over with these things. You close , but no quite my dear sister . If we read carefully , we know something . SO LONG as one is in the error , THEY ARE NOT FOLLOWING JESUS . ITS WHY they must be CONVERTED back to the real FAITH IN HIM . PRAY and let that one sink in . He was sick with sorrow , cause GOD made him AWARE OF HIS ERROR . JUST as HE DOES ALL LAMBS WHO ERR . try SLEEPING while you in error . Go ahead sister try and tell me , IF you are in error , or when you have been , DID YOU HAVE WONDERFUL PEACE . HECK NO . only MISERY ABOUNDED . THAT be the WORK OF GOD , to cause us to SORROW TO REPENTANCE . HE is the ONE IN CONTROL . AND if we have the SPIRIT , we too would correct , even the whiff of error in other folks . But know this . men and women are not the same in one aspect . MEN will have a more authorative approach women a more submissive approach . BOTH are grave and full of compassion . The man is no better than the woman. No wiser , no smarter , FOR JESUS is the only one who reveals truth . But let not the emotions rule the heart . Our thinkers can be highly deadly . our rats and our mice in our skulls must be silenced . AND ONLY BIBLICAL TRUTH can do that . ONLY the SPIRIT can do that . When the mouse runs for the wrong cheese , SHUT IT DOWN . Let us not overthink the simplicity in JESUS . ERROR must be ceased asap . WHEN JESUS saw error , HOW DID HE approach error . When the apostels saw error , HOW DID they approach it . Let not emotions rule the day . LET TRUTH RULE THE HEART . There is only one thing to MULL over . IF JESUS SAID IT HEED IT and OBEY IT . IF i tell my son , son you gonna get a spanky if you dont heed me . I MEAN what i say . AND when he dont , HE GETTETH THE SPANKY . What JESUS said is black and white simple . IF YE DENY ME , I DENY YOU . THUS if any does err , and THEY DO , REMIND THEM , HE WHO DENIES JESUS , GETS DENIED , PEROID . Watch how fast that approach works . Black ...........................and White . SIMPLICITY . One other thing to consider is Judas Iscariot. After he saw the Lord was condemned, he was sorrowful for selling him out, and even threw the 30 pieces of silver back at those he got the money from, but never found forgiveness. Peter was sorry he denied the Lord, but was not restored at that point. I think Peter was feeling too condemned to seek the Lord's forgiveness. Of course, God knows the beginning and the ending, and knew Peter would return to Him and even that he would die on a cross because of his faith.
One thing that many do is use human reasoning to come to their conclusions. The OSAS crowd for instance will try to mock by saying you cannot be saved, lost, saved, lost, saved, lost, etc. They say that trying to make it appear ridiculous, but they have no Biblical basis for saying that. They will say that a person cannot be unborn, but in the natural, you cannot be born again, so once again, human reasoning fails. If we stick only with what the Bible actually says, you can be saved today, lose salvation because of denying the Lord, and repent and be restored. Either that is true, or Jesus was not telling us straight, and He did not mean what He said.
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Post by frienduff on Aug 23, 2020 14:58:44 GMT -5
... But can we also claim to know HIM and yet STILL DENY HIM . ... ❝They profess to know God, but in works they deny Him,
being abominable, disobedient, and disqualified for every good work.❞ - Titus 1:16
❝He who says, “I know Him,”
and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.❞ - 1 John 2:4LETTERS just gave the very wonderful example i am speaking about . RIGHT TO THE POINT that is . BUT THEN , LOOK WHO SAID IT FIRST . THEMS JESUS WORDS . THOSE are the ONLY WORDS WE NEED for all situations . LETTER kept is short BUT GORGEOUS . IF JESUS SAID IT HEED IT . OBEY IT LOVE IT LEARN IT EMBRACE IT . RIGHT TO THE POINT . RIGHT TO THE POINT .
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Post by frienduff on Aug 23, 2020 15:04:12 GMT -5
You close , but no quite my dear sister . If we read carefully , we know something . SO LONG as one is in the error , THEY ARE NOT FOLLOWING JESUS . ITS WHY they must be CONVERTED back to the real FAITH IN HIM . PRAY and let that one sink in . He was sick with sorrow , cause GOD made him AWARE OF HIS ERROR . JUST as HE DOES ALL LAMBS WHO ERR . try SLEEPING while you in error . Go ahead sister try and tell me , IF you are in error , or when you have been , DID YOU HAVE WONDERFUL PEACE . HECK NO . only MISERY ABOUNDED . THAT be the WORK OF GOD , to cause us to SORROW TO REPENTANCE . HE is the ONE IN CONTROL . AND if we have the SPIRIT , we too would correct , even the whiff of error in other folks . But know this . men and women are not the same in one aspect . MEN will have a more authorative approach women a more submissive approach . BOTH are grave and full of compassion . The man is no better than the woman. No wiser , no smarter , FOR JESUS is the only one who reveals truth . But let not the emotions rule the heart . Our thinkers can be highly deadly . our rats and our mice in our skulls must be silenced . AND ONLY BIBLICAL TRUTH can do that . ONLY the SPIRIT can do that . When the mouse runs for the wrong cheese , SHUT IT DOWN . Let us not overthink the simplicity in JESUS . ERROR must be ceased asap . WHEN JESUS saw error , HOW DID HE approach error . When the apostels saw error , HOW DID they approach it . Let not emotions rule the day . LET TRUTH RULE THE HEART . There is only one thing to MULL over . IF JESUS SAID IT HEED IT and OBEY IT . IF i tell my son , son you gonna get a spanky if you dont heed me . I MEAN what i say . AND when he dont , HE GETTETH THE SPANKY . What JESUS said is black and white simple . IF YE DENY ME , I DENY YOU . THUS if any does err , and THEY DO , REMIND THEM , HE WHO DENIES JESUS , GETS DENIED , PEROID . Watch how fast that approach works . Black ...........................and White . SIMPLICITY . One other thing to consider is Judas Iscariot. After he saw the Lord was condemned, he was sorrowful for selling him out, and even threw the 30 pieces of silver back at those he got the money from, but never found forgiveness. Peter was sorry he denied the Lord, but was not restored at that point. I think Peter was feeling too condemned to seek the Lord's forgiveness. Of course, God knows the beginning and the ending, and knew Peter would return to Him and even that he would die on a cross because of his faith.
One thing that many do is use human reasoning to come to their conclusions. The OSAS crowd for instance will try to mock by saying you cannot be saved, lost, saved, lost, saved, lost, etc. They say that trying to make it appear ridiculous, but they have no Biblical basis for saying that. They will say that a person cannot be unborn, but in the natural, you cannot be born again, so once again, human reasoning fails. If we stick only with what the Bible actually says, you can be saved today, lose salvation because of denying the Lord, and repent and be restored. Either that is true, or Jesus was not telling us straight, and He did not mean what He said. While both parties were guilty of DENY JESUS . for yes both peter and judas DENIED HIM . LOOK at the appraoch . PETER , wrong as he was , did so out of fear . He didnt turn JEUS Over to authorites for money and cares and pleasures in life . PETER DENIED HIM . GUILTY . PETER REPENTED , FORGIVEN . JUDAS denied him , BUT JUDAS BETRAYED HIM and had HIM delivered OVER unto the authorites . JUDAS was picked , even though JESUS KNEW he was a devil . That man , loved MONEY patnahs . the whole time he held that bag , HIMS WAS STEALING . AND JESUS KNEW IT . though the others did not . WHEN JESUS said , ONE of ye shall betray me , everyone asked will it be I , they were worried . NOT JUDAS . HIMS heart was not right . JESUS told them ONE OF YE shall betray me . BUT unto peter he said , Ye shall deny me . JUDAS was a snake in the grass , even before that man was picked . JESUS knew who judas was and what he would do . BUT the scriptures had to be fullfilled . ONE OF YE shall betray me , HE who has eaten bread with me , shall betray me .
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Post by frienduff on Aug 23, 2020 15:07:55 GMT -5
talk about GOD being in control . JESUS picked ONE who HE KNEW would betray him . BUT WHAT WAS GODS WILL , THAT JESUS WOULD DIE for the sins of the world . GOD IS IN CONTROL . PEROID . KNOWN UNTO HIM ARE ALL THINGS . KNOWN UNTO US ................ARE ONLY WHAT HE REVEALS UNTO US . WHICH IS ALWAYS IN PART . BUT ENOUGH TO DO as WE OUGHT . BE ON GAURD . BE ON GAURD . FOR MANY WILL FALL SWAY to the unity all inclusive move . AND as JESUS was , WE TOO shall be betrayed from within . ITS COMING . UNITY is gonna WIN one of us , the wrong unity IS GONNA TAKE ONE OF US . I am so sorry . LET US STICK TO BIBLES ONLY , AND CLING TO JESUS .
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Post by frienduff on Aug 23, 2020 15:27:19 GMT -5
John dont be spooked . my last statment had nothing to do with OSAS . nothing . only saying GOD KNEW and knows all things . JESUS , well we KNOW WHO HE IS , KNEW ALL THINGS .
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