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Post by frienduff on Jul 28, 2018 13:37:33 GMT -5
This is a very good description of the modern Christian church... OH MY GOODNESS , THIS IS EXACTLY THE MODERN INCLUSIVE SEEKER VIEW . I MEAN IDENTICAL .
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Post by Cletus on Jul 28, 2018 20:36:34 GMT -5
If we appologize to the world for telling them the truth all that does is make them feel justified in how they live. Deep deep down in their souls they know it and desire it. fallen human nature screams... I am right!!! Hear me!!! They want to be right and not have to change and if they can get believers to say i am sorry, then they have the approval to go ahead and keep on.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2018 9:08:10 GMT -5
I just think of how things were in the time of Jesus. Small towns where everybody knew everybody and their business, and were much more inter-dependent on each in order to survive and get by than the individualism we know today. The people were raised under the Law, and ‘sinners’ among them were treated like pariahs, insulted, spat upon and shoved aside, avoided like lepers and socially isolated….by people who didn’t realize that they themselves were sinners too. Into this environment came Jesus, a holy and righteous man, a rabbi and teacher who spoke with authority…and broke the rules to associate with the outcasts, including lepers, and treat them with dignity and loving kindness, demonstrating His grace and mercy in not treating them as their sins deserved. It caused Him to be numbered with them, as a transgressor.
It’s good if we aren’t mean to people outwardly, but it matters a great deal also what is in our hearts….is it this same love of Christ or another attitude which He didn’t’ come to bring?
The gospel changes not…..regardless of what anybody else is doing, society or church…..it simply changes not. I hope our gospel is not something that is just relative to the mistakes of others, otherwise it will be skewed accordingly. We will steer in the direction our eyes are looking, and there is a danger of over-correcting….are we constantly looking at the mistakes of the erring church or society and congratulating ourselves for not being like them (Lots’ wife) or are we just looking at Jesus with a single eye and without reference to anything else? Jesus said to look neither to the right nor the left, but set our face like flint....the unchanging gospel.
Lost souls are generally introduced to the milk of the word and not meat. Infants have not got the teeth and strength to chew and digest meat yet, they simply cannot receive it….they will spit it out or choke on it. Let them be adopted through the milk of the word and come into the fold first….let them be rooted and grounded in what? in LOVE…(are we allowed to say that word anymore, or is it automatically assumed to be in reference to something else)...then they will have strength in Christ to learn more about this fearsome great and mighty God who adopted them. Let’s offer His GRACE to the lost….I’m not ashamed of that word. Should I be? I pray not. I’m sure we don’t’ need to apologize for grace either.
Some will fall away and not be willing to become disciples…….just as we see in the gospels…..but at least let’s give them a chance and not let it be our fault that they don’t even receive the chance. Cast the net wide, sow the seed everywhere…..give the invitation to all…..I think that is the lesson we see in the bible……and afterwards let God worry about the bad fish and bad soil. Bad fish end up back in the water…and who even knows whether some of them might even get caught again after a time of the Lord dealing with them in the turbulent waters of life….there are many testimonies of such.
Mat 13:47
Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net, that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind
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Post by PG4Him on Jul 29, 2018 9:51:36 GMT -5
I know you mean well, sister watchful, and I'm not trying to argue with you. But I have few places where I really disagree.
To compare our society with that of ancient Judea is apples and oranges. Public shame is almost nonexistent in our culture (unless you're called a racist bigot for being a conservative Christian). In our culture today, the more godless you are, the more secure your income/property/public image will be. Millions of conservative Christians in Western countries don't dare mention their beliefs in the workplace for fear of HR investigations. They are forced to watch training videos on the normalcy of a man in a women's bathroom, forced to sign HR documents swearing that they will abide by the rules, and forced to call a male supervisor "ma'am", unless they want to quit their job and change careers.
Sure, they can leave for a better job elsewhere, but it's a matter of time before the training video shows up there next.
The bad fish will ultimately be removed from God's kingdom, but no one is telling them that now. They're not being removed from churches. They're not being removed from leadership positions that give them voting power within large denominations. They're not losing jobs as theology professors in seminaries. They're not being discouraged from writing Bible study books. Instead of leaving, they move up the ranks to pastor megachurches, produce big-budget worship albums, and control the printing press at Christian publishers.
Once they secure these leadership roles, they advise the sheep that it's best to sit through the training videos at work.
I don't know where we got this idea that the "milk of the word" is something squishy. The gospel starts with repentance. That's milk. No one gets anywhere with Jesus until they repent. Hebrews 5 says milk is for those "unskilled in the ways of righteousness." Hebrews 6 then clearly identifies repentance from dead works as the most basic, elementary teaching of Christ.
Fish are caught in the net of repentance, not love. There are no Bible verses that say you can enter God's kingdom by accepting God's love. Repentance is the entrance. Then you have the rest of your life to decide if you want to stay repentant.
We've been trying this "just love them" strategy for decades, and now we have Joel Osteen teaching new age heresy as the most famous Christian in the world. This needs to stop.
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Post by Cletus on Jul 29, 2018 13:36:32 GMT -5
I know you mean well, sister watchful, and I'm not trying to argue with you. But I have few places where I really disagree. To compare our society with that of ancient Judea is apples and oranges. Public shame is almost nonexistent in our culture (unless you're called a racist bigot for being a conservative Christian). In our culture today, the more godless you are, the more secure your income/property/public image will be. Millions of conservative Christians in Western countries don't dare mention their beliefs in the workplace for fear of HR investigations. They are forced to watch training videos on the normalcy of a man in a women's bathroom, forced to sign HR documents swearing that they will abide by the rules, and forced to call a male supervisor "ma'am", unless they want to quit their job and change careers. Sure, they can leave for a better job elsewhere, but it's a matter of time before the training video shows up there next. The bad fish will ultimately be removed from God's kingdom, but no one is telling them that now. They're not being removed from churches. They're not being removed from leadership positions that give them voting power within large denominations. They're not losing jobs as theology professors in seminaries. They're not being discouraged from writing Bible study books. Instead of leaving, they move up the ranks to pastor megachurches, produce big-budget worship albums, and control the printing press at Christian publishers. Once they secure these leadership roles, they advise the sheep that it's best to sit through the training videos at work. I don't know where we got this idea that the "milk of the word" is something squishy. The gospel starts with repentance. That's milk. No one gets anywhere with Jesus until they repent. Hebrews 5 says milk is for those "unskilled in the ways of righteousness." Hebrews 6 then clearly identifies repentance from dead works as the most basic, elementary teaching of Christ. Fish are caught in the net of repentance, not love. There are no Bible verses that say you can enter God's kingdom by accepting God's love. Repentance is the entrance. Then you have the rest of your life to decide if you want to stay repentant. We've been trying this "just love them" strategy for decades, and now we have Joel Osteen teaching new age heresy as the most famous Christian in the world. This needs to stop. I am going to have to go ahead and sort of... agree with you there. I think there is a place for "just loving them" however, i think my view on just loving them is not what you are speaking about where preaching of repentance is absent. As a child of God we are to love everyone, and God takes everyone/grows everyone at a different pace. some He takes slow, some fast. I want to be clear on something... every church i have ever been to has preached about repentance so its kinda foreign to me that repentance is not taught. but also crystal clear is repentance is paramount as scripture says to repent to receive salvation, apostles were quick to throw out the word repent. the truth is God hates sin and will not allow it in His presence. thats why when we sin, even after receiving Jesus, our peace goes away and eventually we dont hear from Him anymore and longer still we don't even feel His presence anymore if we continue on.
When i got saved I was in jail. it was not until I decided to change and be good that Gods spirit entered me. I had no idea what i had received. I had no idea what was expected of me. even after i got saved i went back into the world and got dirtied up. when i got saved in jail i went to the library looking for a bible. Its a CEV... contemporary english version. its a paraphrase, not a translation. its against the law to take anything out of the jail, and the man i almost killed in a fight before i was saved this stay in jail spoke up when i was leaving... You gonna leave with out that bible, you are the evilest dude in here, you need to take that bible. the jailer who came to get me out of the tank said you dont have a bible? ... no... Go get that bible.... i dont need it... I will not let you leave until you get that bible. i had stayed longer than i wanted to and really wanted to go. really really. So i didnt argue. on the way out another jailer spoke up and said he cant take that book with him... the first jailer said he dont have one and he needs to take it... more quoting of the rules and how he wasnt going to check me out until the book was in the library, then the original jailer pulled rank and told him to shut up. lol. i was planning on throwing this bible away when i left. no one trashcan could be found or dumpster was unlocked all the way across town. I got back to my condemned shack i was squatting in and on the back porch there was two couches. i tossed this bible on the couch i didnt sleep on. I ended up leaving this bible there when i left, i shacked up with a woman for 2.5 years. i started doing drugs again. eventually we split and 2.5 years later i ended up homeless again. it was a low point for me, perhaps the lowest, at the least in the top three low points in life for me. I returned to my shack. I didnt want to kill myself, but didnt want to live either. I said as i sat down on my new bed, I have tried everything and i turned my head to the right. I slowly drew my head back to straight ahead andf there was this bible from jail, neatly placed there. but not how i tossed it down. as i looked at the bible I said i have not tried that. I picked it up, and said ok God, if you are out there and care anything about me show me something. I opened up to the first page of Ecclesiastes. in the cev they take an excerpt that summarizes the book and its written on the first page. As i type this i still after all these years have this bible, and its in front of me now. Something grabbed my eyes and fixed them upon these words... Respect and obey God! This is what life is all about. God will judge everything we do, even what is done in secret, whether good or bad.
my eyes got big and i felt God tugging at my heart. I said ok and kept reading. God began showing me that by my sin i was cursing my life. I was bringing all this heartache on myself. I told him that night, ok God, i will try it your way. I used to steal, i told him i wont steal no more unless i have to eat. I have eaten every day since then. I have not gone hungry. two weeks later i had a job, a place to stay with water, electricity, even a toilet with paper to go with it. God did not start moving in my life until i turned from my wicked ways. and i see that others who are not living right, their lives are one big mishap after the other.
As long as we choose to live in sin, we will not experience the blessings of God. If for those 2.5 years after i got saved if people had only loved me God would have remained still in my life. But as soon as my heart was willing to do it His way He was there.
Proverbs 28: 13 He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy. 14 Happy is the man that feareth alway: but he that hardeneth his heart shall fall into mischief.
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Post by frienduff on Jul 29, 2018 13:47:10 GMT -5
I know you mean well, sister watchful, and I'm not trying to argue with you. But I have few places where I really disagree. To compare our society with that of ancient Judea is apples and oranges. Public shame is almost nonexistent in our culture (unless you're called a racist bigot for being a conservative Christian). In our culture today, the more godless you are, the more secure your income/property/public image will be. Millions of conservative Christians in Western countries don't dare mention their beliefs in the workplace for fear of HR investigations. They are forced to watch training videos on the normalcy of a man in a women's bathroom, forced to sign HR documents swearing that they will abide by the rules, and forced to call a male supervisor "ma'am", unless they want to quit their job and change careers. Sure, they can leave for a better job elsewhere, but it's a matter of time before the training video shows up there next. The bad fish will ultimately be removed from God's kingdom, but no one is telling them that now. They're not being removed from churches. They're not being removed from leadership positions that give them voting power within large denominations. They're not losing jobs as theology professors in seminaries. They're not being discouraged from writing Bible study books. Instead of leaving, they move up the ranks to pastor megachurches, produce big-budget worship albums, and control the printing press at Christian publishers. Once they secure these leadership roles, they advise the sheep that it's best to sit through the training videos at work. I don't know where we got this idea that the "milk of the word" is something squishy. The gospel starts with repentance. That's milk. No one gets anywhere with Jesus until they repent. Hebrews 5 says milk is for those "unskilled in the ways of righteousness." Hebrews 6 then clearly identifies repentance from dead works as the most basic, elementary teaching of Christ. Fish are caught in the net of repentance, not love. There are no Bible verses that say you can enter God's kingdom by accepting God's love. Repentance is the entrance. Then you have the rest of your life to decide if you want to stay repentant. We've been trying this "just love them" strategy for decades, and now we have Joel Osteen teaching new age heresy as the most famous Christian in the world. This needs to stop.
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Post by frienduff on Jul 29, 2018 13:51:23 GMT -5
Sister Candace , LET IT ONLY INCREASE . I think folks are forgetting something . SO I am going to remind us and in this one name JEZEBELL , I want us to name all false prohets who seduce .
READY . I HAVE THIS AGAINSET YOU , AGAINSET YOU , YOU ALLOW , YOU LET that false prophetess jezebel , teach and seduce my people .
FOLKS , paul , james , jude and others had no kind names for the false ones they warned out against . THESE men and women of beial not only should be warned against GOD GETS ANGRY at folks WHO DONT warn against them . A church was getting sorely rebuked for simply ALLOWING IT . ITS wake up time folks . LET the warners warn and expose . NEVER Get in the way of that . GOD is angry not only at folks who teach them lies NOT only at folks who love those lies , BUT ALSO AT the ones WHO WONT WARN AGAINST IT . YEAH . LET us warn and expose them FOR what they are .
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Post by frienduff on Jul 29, 2018 13:59:42 GMT -5
Sister Candace . You need to leap up and praise the LORD right now . Cause by grace alone , you spot on again . THIS sensual love , this fake seeker friendly , YOU RIGHT , it has not WORKED , ITS MADE IT ALL WORSE . GOD said NOT to be unequally yoked with unbeleivers . PAUL and others echoed , IF ANYONE who calls them self a brother or sister , YET is a fornicator , covetous and etc , HAVE NO COMPANY . JESUS pattern works . NOT mens , JESUS , HIS PATTERN . Yep , about the only thing the seeker friendly and mr smiles a lot false olstein and those mindset has done . OH they sure have made the churches ever so large BUT WHAT FISH are they catching . EXACTLY . the seeker friendly made the claim it would Grow the churches , WELL that got that part RIGHT . THEY SURE DID. MY GOODNESS we have churches like those swelling in the thousands . BUT tell me this , DO THEY HONOR GOD , DO THEY HONOR GOD . DO THEY HONOR GOD or do they exalt man and darkness . Exactly . exactly . FOLKS this pile of lies NEEDS to be exposed and keep getting exposed . And we need to keep preaching , teaching and speaking SOUND BIBLICAL DOCTRINE and pointing ONLY TO JESUS .
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Post by frienduff on Jul 29, 2018 14:04:02 GMT -5
They know nothing of LOVE . the very thing they sound out all day long , THEY HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE of TRUE LOVE . Well , here comes another reminder . EVERY SINGLE MAN WOMAN ever born , WILL ALL STAND BEFORE JESUS on the last day . AND I promise whoever hears the words I NEVER KNEW YOU . ITS TOO LATE FOREVER to do anything about that THEN . And if we can let folks walk of cliffs under a false love , then we never LOVED GOD and we never loved them and their blood will be on us . THIS IS FACT . THIS IS a fact that you wont hear hardly ANYONE say anymore . NOW lets get busy LOVING WITH GODS REAL LOVE and exposing all lies and reaching out to the blind who are headed RIGHT to the edge of the cliff . OR WATCH OUT ON JUDGMENT DAY , you wont hear the words YOU WANTED TOO .
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Post by frienduff on Jul 29, 2018 14:08:28 GMT -5
If that scared folks , THEN I GOT a simple solution . LEARN JESUS . Its not too late at all for anyone who repents and follows Christ . But we cannot be as the all inclusive I apologize world . FOLKS people are going by the groves in the wrong direction. BY the groves and flocks they are gathering under the worst possible men and women who are actors and hirelings . NOW we got to expose them men and women of belial. DO We want folks in hell , dO WE . THEN WARN and at the very least let the WARNERS Warn and pray for those WHO DO WARN and expose the deeds of false men and women . PRAYER is part of the work . Some will be heavy on praying and others heavy on expsosing the evil deeds . BUT never once expose the wrong ones . My advice is go back into revelation and read those messages to the CHURCHES . we going to see a whole different IMAGE OF GOD than we hear today .
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Post by PG4Him on Jul 29, 2018 14:12:22 GMT -5
I am certainly not here to suggest we don’t have to love people. Please don’t take from my message any misunderstanding about loving and wishing salvation for lost people. But we really must be careful when we speak of loving the lost. We have to define what that means. When wicked people hear Christians say “I really do love you” that word ‘love’ does not mean to them what it means to a Christian. To a wicked person in our modern PC culture, love means tolerance.
Paul said in 2 Corinthians that he handed a reprobate Christian over to Satan for his own good to ultimately snap him out of it. That’s awfully harsh compared to what we have now in the church. But such was how the early church understood agape love.
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Post by Cletus on Jul 29, 2018 14:49:03 GMT -5
I am certainly not here to suggest we don’t have to love people. Please don’t take from my message any misunderstanding about loving and wishing salvation for lost people. But we really must be careful when we speak of loving the lost. We have to define what that means. When wicked people hear Christians say “I really do love you” that word ‘love’ does not mean to them what it means to a Christian. To a wicked person in our modern PC culture, love means tolerance. Paul said in 2 Corinthians that he handed a reprobate Christian over to Satan for his own good to ultimately snap him out of it. That’s awfully harsh compared to what we have now in the church. But such was how the early church understood agape love. I didnt think you were saying that. However i believe apart of the gospel is for God so loved... and just as the gospel has been diluted today i think its important to focus on all points. a good example of this is osas. there are points to osas that are true but they either dont tell the whole tale or include teaching thats not true, depending on who is teaching it. if we focus on repentance only its very possible that some may begin viewing the gospel from a more legalistic point of view or even start think like the one guy who fasts twice a week, and tithes good tithes and is not like "these others" I mean just look how many different churches there are and how their beliefs are so different. I was not saying all i said in a reply to your post to you directly, but to someone else who may read it. the world wide web has a big audience.
People who are lost in sin tend to believe the lie that God dont love them and there is no hope. out of those people, how many have given repentance a try? I wanted to testify of Gods goodness and what He does if we turn from our evil ways because of what you said. I am not saying i think you are wrong or spoke out of place on anything. I tried to explain that in my intro. I have been to one church that was osas and they still preached repentance like a holiness church and even in the word of faith/prosperity church they preached repentance, not as much as the others but they did mention it from time to time. It really is weird to me that such a false teaching does happen as if someone taught that here they would not have many people in the community to have much to do with them. and i suspect their church members would go elsewhere so quick they wouldnt have the money to pay next months bills. there are even some smaller schools where there is prayer in the morning over the schools intercom. i doubt these people would be swayed by ffrf bullying either. its just real strange to me how things are in the world. i cant understand why people take it or even acknowledge them. i guess in my neighborhood we are not very "tolerant" of those ways.
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Post by 2fw8212a on Jul 29, 2018 15:36:50 GMT -5
I am certainly not here to suggest we don’t have to love people. I do not think the problem is lack of love...
the Lord Jesus, who walked in the most perfect love was rejected by many.
"Then His disciples came and said to Him, “Do You know that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this saying?”" - Matthew 15:12
"But He answered and said, Every plant which My heavenly Father has not planted will be uprooted." - Matthew 15:13
"If the world hates you, you know that it hated Me before it hated you." - John 15:18
"And blessed is he who is not offended because of Me." - Matthew 11:6
"A disciple is not above his teacher, but everyone who is perfectly trained will be like his teacher." - Luke 6:40
The problem is this:
"For the hearts of this people have grown dull. Their ears are hard of hearing, And their eyes they have closed, Lest they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, Lest they should understand with their hearts and turn, So that I should heal them." - Matthew 13:15
"Or do you despise the riches of His goodness, forbearance, and longsuffering, not knowing that the goodness of God leads you to repentance?" - Romans 2:4
But we have to make a choice, a simple choice: Light or darkness, truth or lie, mercy or wrath.
"For God did not appoint us to wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ..." - 1 Thessalonians 5:9
"And Elijah came to all the people, and said, “How long will you falter between two opinions? If the Lord is God, follow Him; but if Baal, follow him.” But the people answered him not a word." - 1 Kings 18:21
"Draw near to God and He will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners; and purify your hearts, you double-minded." - James 4:8
"Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven." - Matthew 7:21
"For this is the will of God, that by doing good you may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men" - 1 Peter 2:15
"Imitate me, just as I also imitate Christ." - 1 Corinthians 11:1
Or do you really think the flesh has anything good to offer:
"Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like..." - Galatians 5:19-21
"But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His." - Romans 8:9
"But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law." - Galatians 5:22-23
Make your choice as soon as possible... leaving for tomorrow is too risky!
"whereas you do not know what will happen tomorrow. For what is your life?" - James 4:14
Or will you risk to die in your unrepentant state and hear from the Lord:
"But He will say, ‘I tell you I do not know you, where you are from. Depart from Me, all you workers of iniquity.’" - Luke 13:27
"...And stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because you have rejected the word of the Lord..." - 1 Samuel 15:23
"Jesus answered them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, whoever commits sin is a slave of sin... ...Therefore if the Son makes you free, you shall be free indeed." - John 8:34+36
"And if it seems evil to you to serve the Lord, choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve... ...But as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord..." - Joshua 24:15
I hope you are willing to repent and come to the Lord, as it is written:
"No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day." - John 6:44
Is the Father drawing you to Him today, my friend?! I hope yes!
"...I say to you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents." - Luke 15:10
God bless you all in Jesus' name!
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Post by PG4Him on Jul 29, 2018 17:24:23 GMT -5
I do think some of this depends on where we live and what we see. Some Christians still live in a mostly Christian community, surrounded by sensible people, where transgender bathrooms sound like a hippy fairy tale. Other Christians are surrounded by sexual deviants and liberal agitators who seem unfazed by any notion of guilt. Both experiences are worth something. I wouldn't say one or the other makes us more wise. But these personal experiences do contribute to what we see lacking in society.
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Post by frienduff on Jul 29, 2018 17:27:15 GMT -5
I am certainly not here to suggest we don’t have to love people. Please don’t take from my message any misunderstanding about loving and wishing salvation for lost people. But we really must be careful when we speak of loving the lost. We have to define what that means. When wicked people hear Christians say “I really do love you” that word ‘love’ does not mean to them what it means to a Christian. To a wicked person in our modern PC culture, love means tolerance. Paul said in 2 Corinthians that he handed a reprobate Christian over to Satan for his own good to ultimately snap him out of it. That’s awfully harsh compared to what we have now in the church. But such was how the early church understood agape love. Sister and if anyone here does suggest that we don't have to love people , THEN they got no business here . Internet witnessing can seem hard or cold at times , BECAUSE we cannot see the other person , really hear their pleas and see their hearts desire . But I can tell no one here has any anger issues , has any hate for any folks at all . OH , I know some of us can be a wee grave . But folks aint used to it and as I said WE are not face to face . No one here that I can tell , is overbearing or hard , cruel or mean or desires one single person to perish . and by not a single person , I FOR SURE AND FOR CERTAIN mean myself . I know I desire not a one to perish . Not even adolf hitler . Sounds rather odd coming from a man who hates all inclusive messages and rips at the very throat of romes message and many churches messages . But I don't hate one person or ever desired hell for one soul . But I know , some folks see me as an anti ecumuincal bull . I AM and I have no apologies for it . I honestly despise that message , I shun its message straight to the upmost depths of hell itself IF I had that power . HOWEVER , I would not shun one person nor desire one person to go to hell . But again , I have a deep problem with this mindset , IT MOCKS JESUS , Spits on Him . Does that sound extreme. ITS Not , this all inclusive message , unity and false love , its spawned by satan himself . And I will not apologize one ounce for despising falsehoods and things which are contrary to God . Now , let us understand real deep that this does not mean I want one person in hell , or would harm or even wish one to perish . But it does mean I despise that image they have made . And I had rather die ten thousand deaths than to serve it , and not warn against it .
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