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Post by frienduff on Dec 6, 2018 15:16:19 GMT -5
YES , I know me and letters were saying the same thing . Cause notice he says they trying to find truth by THEM SELVES . But I just thought why not say it this way too .
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Post by frienduff on Dec 6, 2018 15:20:01 GMT -5
It you speak against Jesus aren’t you making God a liar? What is the difference? THE DIFFERENCE IS THIS . AND I want us to pay and take close heed to what gets said . THE DIFFERNCE IS .............NOT A THING . CANDACE IS RIGHT , to speak against the SON IS the same as speaking against the FATHER WHO SENT THE SON and GAVE HIM WHAT TO SAY.
SO HEY ROME and rick warren , stead of kissing korans and blowng peace pipes , CHUNK this in that pipe and BELEIVE IT . THEIR IS ONLY ONE WAY TO THE FATHER . and the beauty is , THAT WAY has a name , which is above all names . AND it aint allah , NOPE this name can whack allah right off his donkey and it aint budda , nope , nor does ROME hold the KEYS , HIS NAME IS JESUS and all better run to him and learn him well.
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Post by frienduff on Dec 6, 2018 15:29:20 GMT -5
I just had a thought . Just for a split second imagine frienduff as pope , I don't think my speeches sound PC and inclusive . I mean can you imagine . Imagine all the leaders of the worlds religions all being gathered and the top kings of the world , AND THEY HEAR this , ONLY ONE NAME THAT CAN SAVE ANY , AND HIS NAME IS JESUS CHRIST . AND GOD shares HIS GLORY with none . NOW repent ofall them false religons and COME to the ONLY ONE WHO CAN SAVE , WHO IS CHRIST . AND let none trust in no world govt . TRUST ONLY IN CHRIST .
CAN you imagine if one said that FOR ALL THE WORLD AND RELIGOINS TO SEE . WHAT A BEAUTY I SAY . And even if such a one was shot dead for saying it , STILL WHAT A TREASURE TO HAVE SAID IT BEFORE ALL rebuking all other religions and PROVING JESUS IS THE ONLY SAVOIR . Man , I would leap for joy if one said that and ALL the WORLD SAW IT at once .
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Post by frienduff on Dec 6, 2018 16:11:22 GMT -5
There are things only the Holy Spirit of God can do.
Only God can reveal you a thing in such a way that you have no doubt it is true (as absolute truth comes only from God).
Revelation from the Spirit of God always come with confirmation (faith). And you can still check by the fruits.
LETTERS and all. DO you all want to hear some awful fearful things I have heard from men who claim THEY too have no doubt , they too receive knowledge from GOD . AND THEY BELIEVED IT AS A SMALL CHILD . AND IT WAS FALSE . Three times at least I have witnessed this STRONG PERSUASION on folks and many times I have seen it in others as well . The first time I ever remembered first seeing this and it was STRONG in their soul . The first time I was at a meeting , a small group . And I was led to give a word , WHICH WAS ACCURATE and it was received by another . THEN another rose up and it was like a light bulb hit him. HIS EYES Just lit up and looked almost translike . HE looked very excited , almost unable to contain himself . ONE would have thought WOW this man has received a powerful revelation. BUT as his eyes were glazed with a light that looked like alight , he spoke these words . GOD IS DOING A NEW THING . HE is CALLING ME OUT OF THE BIBLE and into a new direc.....................the reason I stopped that sentence with direction IS BECAUSE FASTER THAN GREAESED LIGHTING , as he was uttering that , I BOLTED UP and SAID in front of all, THIS IS NOT OF GOD , ITS NOT OF GOD WHY WOULD GOD call us out of the bible and in a new direction . WELL that shut the man up FOR SURE . But weeks later I found out he and that house church had went right to the shambles . Another time . And frankly I don't care who this angers . But a friend of mine was with a woman and they had plans on being married . YEP . BUT HE already had been . SO YEP I talked him out of this . YET not I , but the grace of GOD that was In me . ANYWAY a trap had beenset . We went over and A so called big man of GOD who knew all his stuff was their . AND READY FOR ALL OUT battle . HE was the one who had brought them together and the lady had cried out for help to help keep my friend with her . SO the battle began . Sure enough he was not listening and doing all to sway my friend back into the relationship . I quoated how its only lawful if fornication or the death of the spouse . WELL ALL OF A SUDDEN this guys eyes lit up with that same transe like gaze and all of a sudden he was like , OH THE HOLY SPIRIT just revealed to me , that means IF the relationship is dead not the actual death of the person. WELL My friend didntfall for that . WE KNEW . WE KNEW . And as much as that might piss folks offs, OH WELL. I STAND ON JESUS DEFINTION of what a lawful marriage is and what a lawful remarriage is . SO GET OVER IT . JESUS ONLY FOLKS . Okay the third time was when I was in the library and this was worst of all. THIS FELLOW was totally hypnotized by them spirits . same LOOK , same everthing As he said these words , GOD IS IN ALL RELGIONS . YEP that was a lie too . FOLKS EITHER WE CLING TO JESUS AND HIS SAYINGS or be prepared to hear I NEVER KNEW YA.
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Post by PG4Him on Dec 6, 2018 16:34:03 GMT -5
There are things only the Holy Spirit of God can do. Only God can reveal you a thing in such a way that you have no doubt it is true (as absolute truth comes only from God). Revelation from the Spirit of God always come with confirmation (faith). And you can still check by the fruits. LETTERS and all. DO you all want to hear some awful fearful things I have heard from men who claim THEY too have no doubt , they too receive knowledge from GOD . AND THEY BELIEVED IT AS A SMALL CHILD . AND IT WAS FALSE . Three times at least I have witnessed this STRONG PERSUASION on folks and many times I have seen it in others as well . The first time I ever remembered first seeing this and it was STRONG in their soul . The first time I was at a meeting , a small group . And I was led to give a word , WHICH WAS ACCURATE and it was received by another . THEN another rose up and it was like a light bulb hit him. HIS EYES Just lit up and looked almost translike . HE looked very excited , almost unable to contain himself . ONE would have thought WOW this man has received a powerful revelation. BUT as his eyes were glazed with a light that looked like alight , he spoke these words . GOD IS DOING A NEW THING . HE is CALLING ME OUT OF THE BIBLE and into a new direc.....................the reason I stopped that sentence with direction IS BECAUSE FASTER THAN GREAESED LIGHTING , as he was uttering that , I BOLTED UP and SAID in front of all, THIS IS NOT OF GOD , ITS NOT OF GOD WHY WOULD GOD call us out of the bible and in a new direction . WELL that shut the man up FOR SURE . But weeks later I found out he and that house church had went right to the shambles . Another time . And frankly I don't care who this angers . But a friend of mine was with a woman and they had plans on being married . YEP . BUT HE already had been . SO YEP I talked him out of this . YET not I , but the grace of GOD that was In me . ANYWAY a trap had beenset . We went over and A so called big man of GOD who knew all his stuff was their . AND READY FOR ALL OUT battle . HE was the one who had brought them together and the lady had cried out for help to help keep my friend with her . SO the battle began . Sure enough he was not listening and doing all to sway my friend back into the relationship . I quoated how its only lawful if fornication or the death of the spouse . WELL ALL OF A SUDDEN this guys eyes lit up with that same transe like gaze and all of a sudden he was like , OH THE HOLY SPIRIT just revealed to me , that means IF the relationship is dead not the actual death of the person. WELL My friend didntfall for that . WE KNEW . WE KNEW . And as much as that might piss folks offs, OH WELL. I STAND ON JESUS DEFINTION of what a lawful marriage is and what a lawful remarriage is . SO GET OVER IT . JESUS ONLY FOLKS . Okay the third time was when I was in the library and this was worst of all. THIS FELLOW was totally hypnotized by them spirits . same LOOK , same everthing As he said these words , GOD IS IN ALL RELGIONS . YEP that was a lie too . FOLKS EITHER WE CLING TO JESUS AND HIS SAYINGS or be prepared to hear I NEVER KNEW YA. I’ve never met a Christian who didn’t claim to be led by spiritual truth. People who preach OSAS will gladly tell you God moved on their hearts. Heck, you even look at Catholics, Mormons, anyone else, they all say God opened their eyes. That’s what deception is. A deceived person will sincerely believe in his heart that something is true when it isn’t. This is why I sound a warning that feelings aren’t enough. When two people disagree, and both insist God spoke to their hearts, who is right?
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Post by 2fw8212a on Dec 6, 2018 20:03:38 GMT -5
...I have heard from men who claim THEY too have no doubt , they too receive knowledge from GOD . AND IT WAS FALSE ." If it is false it is not from God.I've never met a Christian who didn't claim to be led by spiritual truth... A deceived person will sincerely believe in his heart that something is true... When two people disagree, and both insist God spoke to their hearts, who is right? frienduff , PG4Him , John Your comments make me sad. It seems like you people are doubting of my sincerity and love for the Lord.
But God knows my heart, and I know in who I am trusting and hearing for all this time.
"Or else let those who are here themselves say if they found any wrongdoing in me while I stood before the council..." - Acts 24:20
"Does a spring send forth fresh water and bitter from the same opening?" - James 3:11
"Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Therefore by their fruits you will know them." - Matthew 7:15 But if you do not believe then what am I doing here?!
What evil have I done?!
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Post by PG4Him on Dec 6, 2018 21:11:15 GMT -5
Who is doubting your sincerity? I don’t doubt that you love the Lord. I am opposing your teaching, not you as a person. Don’t take it personally when people disagree with you over doctrine.
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Post by frienduff on Dec 6, 2018 21:31:48 GMT -5
...I have heard from men who claim THEY too have no doubt , they too receive knowledge from GOD . AND IT WAS FALSE ." If it is false it is not from God.I've never met a Christian who didn't claim to be led by spiritual truth... A deceived person will sincerely believe in his heart that something is true... When two people disagree, and both insist God spoke to their hearts, who is right? frienduff , PG4Him , John Your comments make me sad. It seems like you people are doubting of my sincerity and love for the Lord.
But God knows my heart, and I know in who I am trusting and hearing for all this time.
"Or else let those who are here themselves say if they found any wrongdoing in me while I stood before the council..." - Acts 24:20
"Does a spring send forth fresh water and bitter from the same opening?" - James 3:11
"Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Therefore by their fruits you will know them." - Matthew 7:15 But if you do not believe then what am I doing here?!
What evil have I done?!Letters ...............what are you talking about . I am just warning out against how easy deception is . NOT saying you are a deceiver . Letters let me put your mind at ease and give you some wonderful advice . WHEN folks hammer me and say all sorts of evils against me or etc . IT don't cause me one ounce of fear . MY FAITH IN CHRIST IS SOLID . If things are causing you to fear examine WHY this is . Now , what I say next aint aimed at YOU in any way . But when folks play the victim card , its the fastest way to shut down correction . When folks tried to tell me , that when I spoke in tongues is was not from GOD . THAT never once caused me fear . I KNOW and I have all trust in faith IN GOD . Go to GOD in prayer and ask HIM what causes you fear when folks say things . Just do it . If your having fear or its hurting your faith , then the problem is with in you . cause as I said , MEN , women can say all sorts of things against me . AND MY FOUNDATION never shakes . PS. YOU SAVED BROTHER , AND I aint even hinting you aint . YOU ARE SAVED . but you do neeed to GO to GOD in prayer and ask HIM if or what is this cause of fear . ANd ask for boldness in SPIRIT . YOU LOVED LETTERS . I REALLY ENJOY the good exhortations .
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Post by John on Dec 6, 2018 21:52:54 GMT -5
...I have heard from men who claim THEY too have no doubt , they too receive knowledge from GOD . AND IT WAS FALSE ." If it is false it is not from God.I've never met a Christian who didn't claim to be led by spiritual truth... A deceived person will sincerely believe in his heart that something is true... When two people disagree, and both insist God spoke to their hearts, who is right? frienduff , PG4Him , John Your comments make me sad. It seems like you people are doubting of my sincerity and love for the Lord.
But God knows my heart, and I know in who I am trusting and hearing for all this time.
"Or else let those who are here themselves say if they found any wrongdoing in me while I stood before the council..." - Acts 24:20
"Does a spring send forth fresh water and bitter from the same opening?" - James 3:11
"Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Therefore by their fruits you will know them." - Matthew 7:15 But if you do not believe then what am I doing here?!
What evil have I done?! I never mentioned you or accused you of anything. I didn't say anything against your recent posts. What are you talking about? I am not questioning your love for God.
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Post by John on Dec 6, 2018 21:58:53 GMT -5
Just so you will know, I wasn't thinking about you, Letters, when I got back into this topic. I was thinking about some people that were misunderstanding blasphemy against the Holy Ghost from a different discussion, and that led me to bring up speaking against the Holy Spirit, which will not be forgiven. I have no idea what I said to you to bring about that response.
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Post by frienduff on Dec 6, 2018 22:07:00 GMT -5
Goodness , I have been so busy at worthy , butero has almost caught up to me with responses . Do you realize , butero , that together we got more posts than the whole site . Not that this is a bad thing . OH let us be encouaraged IN THE LORD
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Post by 2fw8212a on Dec 7, 2018 5:53:03 GMT -5
I am opposing your teaching, not you as a person. It is understandable. Perhaps I went too much into personal faith.
Just as a healer cannot go on and teach people how to heal as those who have not the gift won't understand him.
And just as someone who speak in tongues cannot go on and teach people how to speak in tongues as those who have not the gift won't understand them.
Or they have or they do not. I have no idea what happens when you receive the gift of tongues or how to start speaking.
And obviously, I cannot understand what you are going to tell me.Who is doubting your sincerity? I don’t doubt that you love the Lord. Just so you will know, I wasn't thinking about you, Letters, when I got back into this topic. I am just warning out against how easy deception is . NOT saying you are a deceiver . OK, sorry. It was not you then.
Blessings!
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Post by frienduff on Dec 7, 2018 11:14:25 GMT -5
Letters you are loved . Now raise those hands up and praise the Lord .
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Post by Sister on Dec 8, 2018 9:04:43 GMT -5
That is so true frienduff, and God can only reveal through his Word, ...the Word of God - if we want to be more specific. Everything that comes out of the mouth of God is his Word. The holy spirit is in the Word of God, the spirit of truth. God's Word has his spirit connected to his Word,... the spirit of truth (because it comes from him)
Only the spirit of truth which is "in "God's Word can give understanding (of what he's speaking about). If we keep receiving God's Word and keep our temples clean, the Word will abide "in" us.
John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
And in that Word that abides in us ...there is power! It is not just believing that Jesus died on the cross for our sakes, that makes one saved, ...but hearing his message and receiving his Words, .....which only the Word of God can give.
.....and it's that Word that we obey and glorify. Glory to Jesus.
John 12:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.
John 15:3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.
John 17:8 For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.
Faith is not a confirmation, but the Word is. Faith is trust that his Word is true,..believing on him that gives truth. The fruits are clear by anyone obeying or doing contrary to what the Word has spoken. His actions will reveal what spirit he is serving.
The Word, the Word, the Word! Jesus "was" the Word of God made flesh. The Word was always there before God turned him into flesh. When Jesus returned to the Father he was raised spirit. After that what do we have left? We have the Word preserved in ink so that we can read and digest. This Word is a living word. It has life and gives life. It is forever flowing and consists of spirit (the spirit of truth)
We can only come to God through his Word - and not anyone else's. The Word of God is so powerful. If we sincerely receive the Word, we shall receive the power that comes with it - the understanding so that we can obtain good fruits and receive mercy at the Coming.
Revelation 19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
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Post by John on Jan 15, 2019 9:39:38 GMT -5
I just encountered one of the most difficult questions on this topic. Normally, the person claims to want to be saved, but fears they committed this sin, and my response is that if God is still drawing them to him, they did not. In this instance, he is asking if people think he can be saved if he wanted to, and his transgression was cursing God, including the Spirit directly, on multiple occasions. He very may well have gone too far. What do you all think?
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