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Post by PG4Him on Jan 14, 2019 10:08:57 GMT -5
Hello to 4hizglory37 and everyone. The comment here about knowing our role in the body is a valuable thing! I did not take offense to what our sister said. I believe we can better relate to each other when we understand what each other is about. I’m sure that sometimes I come across as our resident skeptic. My personal background came from living with ignorant baby Christians. They did a lot of harm by misapplying Scripture. They saw a demon hiding behind every tree. Every instance of childhood sickness was a punishment for some supposed sin. When it came to politics or news reports, things were no different. This was before we had alternative news, before the internet. They’d watch a mainstream corporate news program, and then I’d hear a two-hour hour rant on how Ronad Reagan was the devil. Lawyers were the devil. Rich people were the devil. Anyone different from us was the devil. To this very day, some in my family carry on the tradition. One of my brothers goes out of his way to watch TBN for the sole purpose of getting outraged by the content. He will allegedly hear a prophetic word about those people, and then he’ll waste hours of his life tuning in until he finds a trivial scrap of evidence to confirm it. He desperately wanted me to believe he was a prophet, so he told me numerous times that “God told him” Marco Rubio would become president in 2016. He demanded I believe him. I kept telling him I didn’t care either way and I’d love him as a brother no matter what. This wasn’t good enough for him. He kept saying, “when I’m proven right you’ll know I’m a prophet.” After the election when he was clearly wrong, he came to me being emotionally manipulating, saying “I suppose you’ll laugh at me and call me a false prophet like everyone else... sniff...” No actual repentance, just a focus on his continued victimhood. I was very kind and gracious about it, but we don’t talk much now. There’s only so much you can take before you’re done. If you’re showing me serious evidence of a work of darkness which the Bible hints at, I’ll believe you all day long. If you’re telling me John Hagee supports homosexuals because he wore a pink tie one time, I’ll tell you to go outside and get some fresh air. YouTube can be an excellent resource for sharing (and finding) information. It’s also a tool for irresponsible people to spread sloppy, misleading, deceptively-edited videos that do more harm than good. We can’t convince the world to believe us by showing them a video they can easily rip to shreds. Being wise as a serpent cuts both ways. You want me to believe your latest spin on Trump’s agenda, you’ll have to do better than a lazy montage of disconnected sound bites taken from the MSM. There are enough real conspiracies. We don’t need to invent a new one every day. So I guess I kind of see myself as a watchman of the watchmen. Let’s strive for quality workmanship. Let’s be sure we’re sharing information that can’t be easily debunked. Let’s avoid susperstitions and wives tales that bring a reproach on our witness. Let’s not get to the point that we’re obsessed with watching the world (or anyone we perceive as different) under the guise of “being in the know.” If we want to spread the truth and wake people up to real works of darkness, we gotta put our ducks in a row. Abby and I have spoken a great length on these things. She knows about things I’ve seen in real life. The stakes are too high for us to be sloppy.
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Post by 4hizglory37 on Jan 15, 2019 0:39:10 GMT -5
Hello to 4hizglory37 and everyone. The comment here about knowing our role in the body is a valuable thing! I did not take offense to what our sister said. I believe we can better relate to each other when we understand what each other is about. I’m sure that sometimes I come across as our resident skeptic. My personal background came from living with ignorant baby Christians. They did a lot of harm by misapplying Scripture. They saw a demon hiding behind every tree. Every instance of childhood sickness was a punishment for some supposed sin. When it came to politics or news reports, things were no different. This was before we had alternative news, before the internet. They’d watch a mainstream corporate news program, and then I’d hear a two-hour hour rant on how Ronad Reagan was the devil. Lawyers were the devil. Rich people were the devil. Anyone different from us was the devil. To this very day, some in my family carry on the tradition. One of my brothers goes out of his way to watch TBN for the sole purpose of getting outraged by the content. He will allegedly hear a prophetic word about those people, and then he’ll waste hours of his life tuning in until he finds a trivial scrap of evidence to confirm it. He desperately wanted me to believe he was a prophet, so he told me numerous times that “God told him” Marco Rubio would become president in 2016. He demanded I believe him. I kept telling him I didn’t care either way and I’d love him as a brother no matter what. This wasn’t good enough for him. He kept saying, “when I’m proven right you’ll know I’m a prophet.” After the election when he was clearly wrong, he came to me being emotionally manipulating, saying “I suppose you’ll laugh at me and call me a false prophet like everyone else... sniff...” No actual repentance, just a focus on his continued victimhood. I was very kind and gracious about it, but we don’t talk much now. There’s only so much you can take before you’re done. If you’re showing me serious evidence of a work of darkness which the Bible hints at, I’ll believe you all day long. If you’re telling me John Hagee supports homosexuals because he wore a pink tie one time, I’ll tell you to go outside and get some fresh air. YouTube can be an excellent resource for sharing (and finding) information. It’s also a tool for irresponsible people to spread sloppy, misleading, deceptively-edited videos that do more harm than good. We can’t convince the world to believe us by showing them a video they can easily rip to shreds. Being wise as a serpent cuts both ways. You want me to believe your latest spin on Trump’s agenda, you’ll have to do better than a lazy montage of disconnected sound bites taken from the MSM. There are enough real conspiracies. We don’t need to invent a new one every day. So I guess I kind of see myself as a watchman of the watchmen. Let’s strive for quality workmanship. Let’s be sure we’re sharing information that can’t be easily debunked. Let’s avoid susperstitions and wives tales that bring a reproach on our witness. Let’s not get to the point that we’re obsessed with watching the world (or anyone we perceive as different) under the guise of “being in the know.” If we want to spread the truth and wake people up to real works of darkness, we gotta put our ducks in a row. Abby and I have spoken a great length on these things. She knows about things I’ve seen in real life. The stakes are too high for us to be sloppy. I get where you are coming from, but I have to say this, this is the internet. We just can't assume we "KNOW" what the other person is thinking or what they are really like. Yes, you have had experiences with "baby Christians" but remember, we only "see" a part of everyone and part of their lives. I just would like to caution you too, don't jump to conclusions about someone here you may think you know, or their motive. Only God knows the heart of everyone. I hope you get what I am trying to convey.
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Post by PG4Him on Jan 15, 2019 9:17:16 GMT -5
Sister, it’s all yours 🙂
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Post by John on Jan 15, 2019 10:31:07 GMT -5
I think that what sister Candance said was very important, and if I could have given it more than a simple thumbs up, I would have. People take clips out of context all the time, and create stories building a case by putting unrelated things together. People do this on YouTube for viewers because that leads to ad revenue. We need to carefully judge the content of the videos and make sure their facts are correct, not just so others won't mock us, but for our own sanity. We don't need unnecessary worry when there are so many real threats.
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Post by PG4Him on Jan 15, 2019 10:37:04 GMT -5
After a while I get tired of being the bad guy.
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Post by John on Jan 15, 2019 11:34:22 GMT -5
After a while I get tired of being the bad guy. I have been asked to watch many YouTube videos, because it gave such a dire warning, only to find out the threat was fabricated. Alex Jones is bad about exaggerating and making things up and mixing in some truth. Don't believe everything you see.
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Post by Abby-Joy on Jan 15, 2019 13:20:17 GMT -5
Where I got off a bit related to this thread, was due to my own past wounding and nothing that our sister Candance PG4Him said. She wasn't attacking me and was gracious enough to come back and clarify. Candance understands a lot of my own story and we've shared a lot about these things. I appreciate the voice of reason.
Candance, you're not a bad guy! Biblical and Godly balance is a good thing. We have to stay grounded.
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Post by Cletus on Jan 15, 2019 13:42:15 GMT -5
After a while I get tired of being the bad guy. me too. I am learning to ask God to renew me and give me strength in those moments.
God speed.
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Post by PG4Him on Jan 15, 2019 13:53:07 GMT -5
Where I got off a bit related to this thread, was due to my own past wounding and nothing that our sister Candance PG4Him said. She wasn't attacking me and was gracious enough to come back and clarify. Candance understands a lot of my own story and we've shared a lot about these things. I appreciate the voice of reason.
Candance, you're not a bad guy! Biblical and Godly balance is a good thing. We have to stay grounded. I’m working on being mindful that I don’t trigger you with vague comments. The last thing I want is to make you feel like I don’t believe you. I do a lot of ranting about other people. Let’s just put that out there as a standard disclaimer: when I complain about bad conspiracy salesmen I’m never, ever aiming it at you!!!
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Post by Abby-Joy on Jan 15, 2019 14:42:07 GMT -5
Where I got off a bit related to this thread, was due to my own past wounding and nothing that our sister Candance PG4Him said. She wasn't attacking me and was gracious enough to come back and clarify. Candance understands a lot of my own story and we've shared a lot about these things. I appreciate the voice of reason.
Candance, you're not a bad guy! Biblical and Godly balance is a good thing. We have to stay grounded. I’m working on being mindful that I don’t trigger you with vague comments. The last thing I want is to make you feel like I don’t believe you. I do a lot of ranting about other people. Let’s just put that out there as a standard disclaimer: when I complain about bad conspiracy salesmen I’m never, ever aiming it at you!!! It's a lot about give and take on both sides, being sisters. I have room to grow in this area. And this is a great place for that (among friends, family in Christ who truly care).
I love you, Candance.... just the way you are. You're a blessing to me. <3
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Post by Abby-Joy on Jan 15, 2019 15:03:29 GMT -5
I’m working on being mindful that I don’t trigger you with vague comments. The last thing I want is to make you feel like I don’t believe you. I do a lot of ranting about other people. Let’s just put that out there as a standard disclaimer: when I complain about bad conspiracy salesmen I’m never, ever aiming it at you!!! It's a lot about give and take on both sides, being sisters. I have room to grow in this area. And this is a great place for that (among friends, family in Christ who truly care).
I love you, Candance.... just the way you are. You're a blessing to me. <3 PS... that disclaimer part made me laugh!
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Post by PG4Him on Jan 15, 2019 15:14:16 GMT -5
Maybe I should change my signature! Standard disclaimer applies!
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Post by frienduff on Jan 15, 2019 18:31:59 GMT -5
After a while I get tired of being the bad guy. It did not take long for me to not only realize but to accept it with JOY in the LORD . sister , about almost everywhere I go , I would say the vast majority end up seeing me as at the very least a big dummby and at most , even been called satan , son of perdition an anti Christ . This GEN has been lulled to sleep land with a false love . DO you know what the number one accusation gets told to those who get up and exhort and warn . BUT GOD IS LOVE , BUT GOD IS LOVE . that is all they say and yet WHY does their love contradict the VERY GOD they say IS LOVE .
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Post by frienduff on Jan 15, 2019 18:36:43 GMT -5
Maybe I should change my signature! Standard disclaimer applies! Sister . just strap on the amour of the LORD . Yall should have seen how I was treated at my old job. WE AINT SEEN NOTHING YET . You know what most folks would say about me at first . You the nicest guy , so much peace and happiness. BUT the moment any TRUTH came out , YOU A NASTY HATING DEMON . ITS JUST the badge we wear . BUT OUR LORD WORE IT FIRST . AND HE was and iS THE Perfect one . IF the world and religious hate you , WE BETTER KNOW FULL WELL , ITS TIME TO LEAP UP AND REJOICE . cause the world is not supposed to LOVE US . NOPE we will wear our crown of thorns , SPECIALLY in the soon days ahead . And I mean a full out betrayal is coming .
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Post by frienduff on Jan 15, 2019 18:44:56 GMT -5
After a while I get tired of being the bad guy. me too. I am learning to ask God to renew me and give me strength in those moments.
God speed.
Now let us all take heed to this next thing . THIS is exactly what the adversary of our souls wants , to wear us out so as we just quit exhorting and contending . I JUST GOT TOO MUCH JOY IN THE LORD speaking TRUTH . Let nothing wear us down So come back to this simple reminder . We will be misunderstood , we will be accused , we will be made to seem bad and hateful and unloving . IT HAPPENED TO JESUS , even paul said , THOUGH the more I love the less I be loved . ITS OUR CROWN . SO lets put it own and let those thorns dig deep into our skulls, cause its the crown I choose , over the sorry wicked shiny gold crown this world offers . LET ME be seen as a enemy of humanity , Means I am only doing what is right . WE gonna be hated . WE gonna be mocked . WE gonna be even persecuted harder in the times ahead and many of us even KILLED in the days ahead . You know what I say to all that , ITS A HONOR TO SERVE CHRIST and whatever comes , I GOT ALL HOPE . NO MAN takes my joy , cause my joy aint in my circumstances , ITS IN THE LORD and HE ALONE . Yall do know what time it is , OH YES , yall knew it was coming , PRAISE THE LORD EVERYONE . PRAISE THE LORD .
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