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Post by frienduff on Sept 8, 2020 15:42:26 GMT -5
just watch the difference in how i respond . just watch how direct and simple it is .
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Post by John on Sept 8, 2020 15:44:27 GMT -5
Okay. Thanks for your response, and I can see you are not OSAS. yeah , i could have told you that answer if you had asked me . I have known this sister for a while . But i would love a reponse to the last question i gave her . I guess I can understand why people are so defensive. We are used to getting interrogated and having our words twisted at another message board to justify punishment or being kicked out. That is not why I ask questions. I want to understand the other person's mindset. I am not seeking an occasion to kick people out.
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Post by frienduff on Sept 8, 2020 15:45:38 GMT -5
yeah , i could have told you that answer if you had asked me . I have known this sister for a while . But i would love a reponse to the last question i gave her . I guess I can understand why people are so defensive. We are used to getting interrogated and having our words twisted at another message board to justify punishment or being kicked out. That is not why I ask questions. I want to understand the other person's mindset. I am not seeking an occasion to kick people out.
I know . its also not why i ask questions .
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Post by frienduff on Sept 8, 2020 15:54:16 GMT -5
Go ahead john . lead it . start asking questions . ask me any question you like about how i see or view something .
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Post by bethany on Sept 8, 2020 16:02:27 GMT -5
And as I agree, and have said I agree with watchful, I am also covered by the same responses from you and freinduff. Well i truly think it best we just ask one another questions so as there is no doubt on things . I will ask you one and you feel free to ask me one . SO i ask , cause i dont know , do you believe in OSAS . I have to admit I am not sure what US OSAS is. I have never heard of the idea of being genuinely saved, and that gives someone a licence to freely and wilfully sin but remain saved. Or even wanting to continue to willfully sin, and the conviction of the Holy Spirit being silent. It doesn't sound like Born Again salvation to me. It's not a UK idea that I have come across either. So I can't answer you. I only hear about being saved, and trying your best not to sin and repenting when we do sin, and asking God for His strength, secure that, if we are genuine in asking, He will give that strength, and we have that assurance of His love, even when we do sometimes sin, despite our best efforts.
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Post by frienduff on Sept 8, 2020 16:11:47 GMT -5
Well i truly think it best we just ask one another questions so as there is no doubt on things . I will ask you one and you feel free to ask me one . SO i ask , cause i dont know , do you believe in OSAS . I have to admit I am not sure what US OSAS is. I have never heard of the idea of being genuinely saved, and that gives someone a licence to freely and wilfully sin but remain saved. Or even wanting to continue to willfully sin, and the conviction of the Holy Spirit being silent. It doesn't sound like Born Again salvation to me. It's not a UK idea that I have come across either. So I can't answer you. I only hear about being saved, and trying your best not to sin and repenting when we do sin, and asking God for His strength, secure that, if we are genuine in asking, He will give that strength, and we have that assurance of His love, even when we do sometimes sin, despite our best efforts. yeah , for sure our churches are tanked sister . the simpliest way to sum it up is , JESUS IS OUR ENTERNAL SECURITY , but if we dont continue IN HIM , yeah our end is big time bad . JUST FOLLOW JESUS . and of course i mean the biblical one . cause many follow another jesus . and , well that is not JESUS
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Post by frienduff on Sept 8, 2020 16:18:39 GMT -5
Lets not misunderstand one another . lets feel free to ask any question we like .
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Post by frienduff on Sept 8, 2020 17:48:06 GMT -5
Les just got banned for preaching the glorious gosple of JESUS . WELL FORWARD MARCH one and all . CAUSE THE GOSPLE IS the ONLY HOPE ONE HAS .
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Post by John on Sept 8, 2020 17:49:36 GMT -5
Les just got banned for preaching the glorious gosple of JESUS . WELL FORWARD MARCH one and all . CAUSE THE GOSPLE IS the ONLY HOPE ONE HAS . Lest anyone get the wrong idea, Les did not get banned here!
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Post by watchful on Sept 8, 2020 18:59:22 GMT -5
Suspicion and fear comes from trusting in the flesh rather than relying on the Holy Spirit. Here lets make it easier . Do you see any area that you beleive i am in error on . THAT outta make it real simple . DO you . just feel free to speak that mind . Brother you dont' have to make it personal...we're not talking about you, we're talking about biblical teachings. And also of course, since you agree with John that committing one sin equates to falling away from the faith, I consider that a serious error and false doctrine, and I have already spoken of that.
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Post by frienduff on Sept 8, 2020 19:10:45 GMT -5
Here lets make it easier . Do you see any area that you beleive i am in error on . THAT outta make it real simple . DO you . just feel free to speak that mind . Brother you dont' have to make it personal...we're not talking about you, we're talking about biblical teachings. And also of course, since you agree with John that committing one sin equates to falling away from the faith, I consider that a serious error and false doctrine, and I have already spoken of that. sister . it wasnt personal . i was honestly asking a simple question . If anyone here , including you , sees error in me , tell me . Its not comitting one sin that ends us , its remaining in the SIN that ends us
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Post by frienduff on Sept 8, 2020 19:11:34 GMT -5
aka . if you see one in error , Do all you can to have them repent . IF they heed not . well move on then . But so long as one is in that sin , they in dire danger .
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Post by watchful on Sept 8, 2020 19:47:44 GMT -5
Brother you dont' have to make it personal...we're not talking about you, we're talking about biblical teachings. And also of course, since you agree with John that committing one sin equates to falling away from the faith, I consider that a serious error and false doctrine, and I have already spoken of that. sister . it wasnt personal . i was honestly asking a simple question . If anyone here , including you , sees error in me , tell me . Its not comitting one sin that ends us , its remaining in the SIN that ends us Ah...well I would agree that remaining in certain sins could potentially end a person's faith, if they don't overcome it. But not that they have been cast out by Jesus and fallen away from the faith the moment they committed a sin, that I do not accept.
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Post by watchful on Sept 8, 2020 19:49:33 GMT -5
just watch the difference in how i respond . just watch how direct and simple it is . Watch the difference as opposed to........
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Post by frienduff on Sept 8, 2020 19:54:22 GMT -5
just watch the difference in how i respond . just watch how direct and simple it is . Watch the difference as opposed to........ just watch sister . you will see it .
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