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Post by Sister on Apr 25, 2018 1:36:55 GMT -5
1 Corinthians 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
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Post by Sister on Apr 25, 2018 2:12:46 GMT -5
Hi Hazard,
I am going to have a look at some more of these scriptures.
Gen 1:2 & Isaiah 14: 12-14 seen already.
Now Jeremiah 4:23-26
Jeremiah 4:23 I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light.
God is thinking back to when he had not yet even made light visible. This is before anything was created.
Jeremiah 4:24 I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly.
After this he is remembering how he opened up the flood waters.
Jeremiah 4:25 I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled.
Remembering the earth after the flood - all those who were judged and killed. (of course Noah and his family saved), but thinking of all the others.
Jeremiah 4:26 I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the LORD, and by his fierce anger.
Going forward in time, when God revealed himself and protected Israel. This fruitful place was Zion, and God was their King. Then Israel punished. Their cities were broken down. That fruitful place now a wilderness - desolate.
Jeremiah 4:27 For thus hath the LORD said, The whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full end.
When Israel came out of Zion, they went into Babylon. This is the whole land that shall be desolate. Babylon. But it's not over yet, because punishment shall come first.
Jeremiah 4:28 For this shall the earth mourn, and the heavens above be black: because I have spoken it, I have purposed it, and will not repent, neither will I turn back from it.
The desolate land of Babylon shall mourn because the Lord will finish her off with WAR.
Jeremiah 4:29 The whole city shall flee for the noise of the horsemen and bowmen; they shall go into thickets, and climb up upon the rocks: every city shall be forsaken, and not a man dwell therein.
The whole city is the Kingdom of Babylon. If you know your scriptures, God is going to send the MEDE'S and their allies (Islamic nations) to stand up to the FP's kingdom at the 6th trumpet. They will attack all the strongholds of Babylon. This will start the 3rd WW. They are called the Kings of the east in REV. Not just going into Jerusalem, but will cause war in EVERY SINGLE CITY on this EARTH. They are cruel and fierce, they care not for women and children either. God is sending them to Babylon, because Babylon oppressed, now she will be oppressed. God is using the wicked to punish the wicked, and Islam is the most wicked and proud. I can back this up with many scriptures, and also mentioned in the book of Esdras. God calls them the dragons of Arabia. The world has no idea what is coming to all those who take the number of the beast. Nothing but desolations and destruction, oppression and the sword (wars)
There will not be a man left in Babylon, because Christ shall finish her off completely, whoever is left.
I still can't see how those two scriptures prove a pre-adamic world.
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Post by justinadams on Apr 25, 2018 4:17:49 GMT -5
Again, I will tout Dr. Michael Heiser. A very accomplished scholar I believe chosen by the Lord to unveil some of the OT scriptures and put to flight the more fanciful ideas. Well worth your time to listen to!
Personally, the 'initial light' in Creation could have been the Lord Himself. Later, according to what He told the author(s) of Genesis, was sufficient for us to recognize. In Job the Lord gives a resounding, 'were you there when I..?'
In other words, do not try to teach your granny to suck eggs!
The Lord is both excitingly clever and very humorous. He hides stuff and must enjoy our searching it out. Why not? We play 'hide the penny' with our kids and things like that.
I have just gotten in to Kings, having started at the beginning of the Book a few months ago. I am astounded at how many miracles or 'not-natural' occurrences there are! Almost all of the kinds of things that Yeshua did when he was on the earth. If one looks for science, then maybe one only finds questions. If one looks for Yahweh, perhaps one finds the miraculous and answers.
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Post by Sister on Apr 25, 2018 4:47:21 GMT -5
Isaiah 14:12 was not conclusive proof. Yes Satan fell from heaven before Adam was created because God knew what was in his heart. It would of taken time also for Satan to convince the angels of God with some huge promise of a lie to follow him. He would of been stirring up heaven, planning scheming and promising, but not until God laid the bait with Adam and Eve would Satan act on his heart. Satan wanted the earth for him and his angels, yes...but God was not going to give it to him just yet, and definately not for him and his angels only because God created the earth for MAN.
I disagree Lucifer "regained" dominion of the earth, because it was not given to him in the first place. It was given to man. Satan had to corrupt man slowly over time in every single way. He has dominion over man now yes, because his evil has grown like a cancer. Satan does not control the sun, the moon, the stars, the weather, the firmament etc, as God has the earth all in his hands still and bound everything he made with an oath.
Another thing to consider is that man can refuse him. Christ has opened that door to release the prisoners. Satan has no dominion over the saints, but only his children. He cannot do anything unless God allows it. God is still in charge and holding the strings.
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1. That his name is Lucifer.
Yes
2. That he was a son of the morning, and therefore, no earthly
man.
Son of the morning, as in Lucifer was created on the 2nd day. Jesus is the bright and morning star. He was there since the beginning of creation, so to speak. The first. Day 1. All was created through the Word. The Word was there first.
God created from evening to morning. After the first morning were the angels formed, on day 2, because light and darkness had to be formed first, then water, then hard Rock, then lightning, then fire, and out of fire were the angels created. Day 2. Foundations had to be laid first, and the angels were the very next thing after this on day 2.j
I Agree Hazard that this is all about Satan.
Yes but not the stars - that was on day 4.
Yes, because Adam was the last created on day 6.
Lucifer left his station (heaven), he was not given the earth.
Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Genesis 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
Genesis 2:1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
I am going to stop there. I cannot see a pre-adamic world.
Everything is summed up here;
Romans 5:14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.
1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
1 Corinthians 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
1 Timothy 2:13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
There is no mention in any scripture of anyone before Adam or another earth or kingdom which Satan ruled over, and was destroyed. The giants and dinosaurs came after men had well and truly multiplied from Adam's seed during the days of Jared who lived 962 yrs. The giants were all dead before the flood, because God put them at emnity against each other until they killed each other off which caused their fallen angel parents much grief. Enoch who was born of Jared was living in those days, preaching and warning all the people against this evil that had escalated out of hand. The 200 leaders responsible for mixing with mankind and producing children from them were put in a spiritual prison where they are until this day.
Book of Enoch [Chapter 6]
1 And it came to pass when the children of men had multiplied that in those days were born unto 2 them beautiful and comely daughters. And the angels, the children of the heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said to one another: 'Come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men 3 and beget us children.' And Semjaza, who was their leader, said unto them: 'I fear ye will not 4 indeed agree to do this deed, and I alone shall have to pay the penalty of a great sin.' And they all answered him and said: 'Let us all swear an oath, and all bind ourselves by mutual imprecations 5 not to abandon this plan but to do this thing.' Then sware they all together and bound themselves 6 by mutual imprecations upon it. And they were in all two hundred; who descended in the days of Jared on the summit of Mount Hermon, and they called it Mount Hermon, because they had sworn 7 and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it. And these are the names of their leaders: Samlazaz, their leader, Araklba, Rameel, Kokablel, Tamlel, Ramlel, Danel, Ezeqeel, Baraqijal, 8 Asael, Armaros, Batarel, Ananel, Zaqiel, Samsapeel, Satarel, Turel, Jomjael, Sariel. These are their chiefs of tens.
As for the dinosaurs, nothing is mentioned in any book that I have come across but maybe here highlighted
Genesis 6:1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
Genesis 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
Genesis 6:3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
Genesis 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
Genesis 6:5 And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
By the scriptures above, it appears that the fallen angels started mingling with the seed of animals first,...to test and see if they could get away with it, before trying it with man. Nothing else is mentioned about it.
I think I have answered and presented all that I can. I respect your view, and thank you for this discussion. I think we can give it a break for a while, unless there's anything you really want to finish off with.
God bless.
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Post by John on Apr 25, 2018 6:18:09 GMT -5
In Scripture, all instances of obscuring the sun and bringing darkness are the result of judgment, not creation-which is also true of the two universal floods (Genesis 6:8-8:22; Exodus 10:21-23; Isaiah 5:30; Jeremiah 4:23-26). All predictions of future darkness depict judgment (Matthew 8:12; Matthew 24:29-31; Rev. 6:12-17; Rev. 8:12; Rev. 9:2; Rev. 16:10; Isaiah 13:10; Joel 2:30-3:16; Amos 5:18-20). Could we say that Genesis 1:2 is the only place in Scripture where darkness and a universal flood are not an act of judgment? If it isn't an option, then Genesis 1:2 proves that there was a pre-Adamite world destroyed by darkness and flood. No one questions that Noah's flood was an act of judgment, or doubts the existence of free moral agents before the flood actually came. Why then doubt the existence of a pre-Adamite world which was destroyed by the darkness and flood of Genesis 1:2? 2 Peter 3. In verses 3-4 we read about the scoffers, including those of the end times. These are the same people who shout, ‘there is no God‘, ‘things have been the same from the beginning‘. Yet, we are quickly learning things have not been the same since the beginning of creation (themelios). We are learning there was an entire age before this one, The First Earth Age. Now we are going to document some details of the “katabole”, the destruction of The First Earth Age right from the mouth of our Father. 2 Peter 3:5 5 “For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:” Those scoffers are ignorant to the fact there was an age before this one. Who is declaring this? The Word of God, Our Father is declaring the Heavens were of old. He is stating the earth and all of creation is not just six-thousand years old, but eons in age. 2 Peter 3:6 6 “Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:” Our Father is documenting the “katabole“, the destruction of The World That Then Was, The First Earth Age. God is not talking about Noah’s flood in this verse. The world did not perish in Noah’s time. At the very least Noah, his family and all of the creatures aboard the ark survived his flood. Common sense tells us Noah could not have lived in a world that did not exist. We will continue to document this fact as we move through the remainder of our study. 2 Peter 3:7 7 “But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.” Our Father defined two separate time periods in the last two verses. “The World That Then Was” from verse six and “the heavens and earth which are now” in verse seven. God explains, He destroyed that old earth age with a major flood, a flood of the whole earth. As we will learn in Jeremiah, God also caused the mountains to shift and there is a lot of evidence that indicates extinction level events due to floods, volcanoes, asteroids and even the shifting of earth’s axis. In The First Earth Age before this present age of flesh, mankind was in spiritual bodies which never die, therefore there are no fossils of them to be discovered. There are no fossils of mankind older than about eight-thousand years old as man in the flesh was first created on the sixth day roughly eight-thousand years ago. Only the animals were in the flesh which is why we continually find their fossils today. worldeventsandthebible.com/bible-study/world-that-was-first-earth-ageThe fact the earth was without form and void in Genesis 1:2 is one of the reasons I used to hold to a pre-Adamite race, but I never considered that proof of anything. It could just as easily be the creation process taking place a step at a time. As for 2 Peter, I have always took that to be Noah's flood. When it speaks of the world that was destroyed, it likely means a world filled with giants and perhaps hybrid animals God never intended to exist as a result of DNA experiments. I don't think it proves this was a separate flood. The problem I see is not that there could not have possibly been a pre-Adamite race of beings. I can find ways to make it fit. I just don't see conclusive proof, and while I hold to the canon as the only absolute and inerrant Word of God, books like Enoch and the Book of the Giants support a young earth, not an old earth. I am not going to say there is no chance you are right, but I lean heavily towards the view Sister has. I wasn't here at the time of creation, so I am just going by what I read. Genesis is either an account of the creation of our world as we know it, or it is an account of the beginning of this planet period. I am now convinced it is an account of the creation of this planet, period.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2018 16:05:54 GMT -5
Genesis 1:2 2 “And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.” Between verses one and two we have the passing of a very large amount of time. In verse one we are told, “God created the Heaven and the earth” (“themelios”). In verse two we are told, “the earth was without form and void and darkness was upon the face of the deep“. Essentially this verse is documenting the “katabole” which includes the destruction of The First Earth Age.
This scripture is also where we find the first mistranslation in the King James Version Bible. The word “was” is 1961 in Strong’s Concordance and being properly translated means, “became“. This change in words completely alters the scriptures. The word “was” implies that God created the earth void which we know is not accurate.
While the word “became” stipulates an event caused the earth to ‘become without form and void’. That event was the “katabole“, the “deposition” or “cast down” of Satan from his position of power in The First Earth Age.
Our Father did not create the earth “without form” (tôhû in Hebrew) which is word 8414 in Strong’s, meaning, “a desolation“. Neither did He create the earth “void” (bôhû in Hebrew 922) meaning, “an undistinguishable ruin“, but it did “become” that way because of the fall of Satan.
So verse two properly translated means, we have a world that ‘became a desolation, became an undistinguishable ruin‘. If it became void then it was something else before, God’s Word states the world was created as a habitable paradise.
Proverbs 8:22 22 “The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.” What works of old are we talking about here? The beginning of The First Earth Age in Genesis 1:1 where, “God created the heaven and the earth,” which became an old work in Genesis 1:2 when our Father destroyed The First Earth Age because of the “katabole“, the fall of Satan.
Proverbs 8:27-29 27 “When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:” 28 “When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:”
29 “When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:” “Foundations” (4146), meaning an actual foundation, being the foundation of the Heavens and earth that we read of in Genesis 1:1. Further, it was the works of creation in verses 27-29 that became old works. They became old due to the “katabole“, the overthrow of Satan, when our Father ended the First Earth Age and brought about this age of flesh (man) where we could be born innocent in order to decide who we will follow, God or Satan.
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Post by justinadams on Apr 26, 2018 4:35:26 GMT -5
I have all the bits to build my house. It was without form and void (not constructed yet). But I had the plans in my head. When we recount things, sometimes it is linear and sometimes not. The OT is sometimes linear (the six days) and sometimes not. When the 'sons of god shouted for joy' at the Creation - Job at the same 'time' says Yahweh is suspicious of His sons. Why? Check out psalm 82. David knew of this just as David knew of the plans for Solomon's temple. It plainly states that Yahweh (or Yeshua) had told him and personally recounted the temple plans. The Tartarus imprisonment of the 200 Watchers is for a finite period as well. And although much of the DNA-altering experiments perished in the flood (check out Greek and other mythologies) there were still a few giants left. Nimrod was probably a giant and Semiramis certainly had a very weird and perhaps demonically inspired beginning. The facts that many, many 'gods' and images reflect Ishtar and the Queen of Heaven, gives rise to the possibility that other fallen angelic beings were involved, but not so horrible as the Watchers since their punishment was well known. These 'gods' were given the job of overseeing the earthly kingdoms, but seem to have failed miserably, preferring perverted worship of their power. There is much to search out regarding these events, yet often the writers of the various scriptures were not intending a linear understanding since in the spirit world, it can be argues that it 'flits in and out' of our present timeline. This is why I think that the so-called 'alien craft' can move so fast and seem to flash in and out of reality. There is much to learn in this regard and for the world to be so taken aback that they believe the lies of demons and fallen angels, I can see that happenings will be so awe-inspiring that many will be taken in by them. They will seem to be very very real...
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Post by Sister on Apr 26, 2018 19:50:23 GMT -5
Hi Justin
This one has always bugged me. The giants were all eradicated before the flood. (The hybrid children of the angels) as Enoch confirms.
After the flood there was no giants, until man started populating the earth again after some time.
Only two ways it could of happened.
1. The angels started doing it again, mixing seed with men
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2. One of Noah's sons wives had the DNA in her blood, which passed on to future generations possibly through Ham's lineage. He was the cursed one out of all three sons. God could of switched that gene on at a certain time, as all the giants were of Hams lineage, not Shem's or Japeth's. Ham was clean before the flood, but his wife? we do not know?
I think it's highly unlikely to be point number one, because God made a good example of those angels who committed this crime. Being sent to the deep is what every angel fears, because down there, they can't interfere with man. No fun for them.
Point no. 2, is the only logical way their seed was preserved in my view, and the gene switched on at a certain time, so that Goliath could be born, and through David, the Lords glory went down in history.
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Post by justinadams on Apr 27, 2018 5:18:00 GMT -5
Good thoughts, but the Lord always allows just a little evil to prevail. So that mankind can still choose. There is an oblique reference that Nimrod in his days found some etchings about "forbidden things". There is also the thought that those early fallen angels had some super smarts and would have been aware of what the Lord would do. Sodom was conversant with 'knowing' angelic beings I am sure. There are hints in the scriptures about this.
Angels (sons of God) are far better able than us to grasp both spiritual and physical entities. They were expert manipulators as well. It would have been easy for such a brilliant collection of miscreants to do exactly what we do today - only they would have been far better at it. Keeping eggs and sperm is a simple thing today to us. Also do not dismiss entirely all the abduction stories you hear about. The really bad dudes are still trying to create their own people. So many females have said the same thing that it seems certain some kind of hybrid is again being 'created' for terrible purposes. I see that the Nazi and other 'experiments' appear to have been at the suggestion of fallen angelic forces - also the scenes of MK Ultra and ritual abuse. Check out Jung and Freud and the 'reverse engineering' of the psyche science experiments to control people. Truly horrific. LSD is not new!
So because of what Job says, we are certain that ha-Satan has not been confined and that many of his forces have been around for a very long time - originally in charge of the nations that they misled, Yahweh chose for Himself a nation since His High Council had failed him so abysmally. Thus we have Israel. In other words, the Lord is continually showing the disobedient angels how to do it properly - with the added caveat that they are also opposing Him at every step of the way. Yahweh just outsmarts them at every turn.
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Post by justinadams on Apr 27, 2018 7:44:24 GMT -5
There arises a tricky question when we talk about DNA and the accompanying complications.
I think that the Lord High God created everything in perfection and goodness, yet because He is so brilliant, He also included safeguards and backup systems.
The fallen angels decided to make their own descendants - a new race that was not of the lineage of Adam and Eve. The idea here was to not only obstruct the Lord's designs but to also pollute them via gene tampering. Mankind today and since WWII has been doing this to a greater or lesser extent. It is planned and not accidental.
The angels (sons of God) were with the Lord at the brink of creation and had tremendous power and a wealth of understanding of how the Lord made things. After all, they were the ones commissioned with keeping it all working correctly.
If you ask a Hebraic Christian, well versed in Israel's history, why did Yeshua come to earth? He or she will give you a three-fold answer: 1) To redeem mankind. 2) To regather the tribes of the Babel scatterings. 3) To set at rights the sins and the ensuing horrors of angelic disobedience. Yeshua came to save the whole world and redeem all of His Creation. Since He was there at the very beginning and thru whom Creation was wrought, He knew full well what He was doing to redeem all of it and set it to rights.
Just a note. The Gadarene demons called Yeshua 'Son of the Most High God'. This was non-Israel territory. Elsewhere in Israel He was referred to as 'The Son of God'. This is significant to an Israelite and denotes the Absolute Highest Authority that is over the whole of Creation (not just Israel's territory).
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Post by Hazard on Apr 30, 2018 22:04:30 GMT -5
I have all the bits to build my house. It was without form and void (not constructed yet). But I had the plans in my head. When we recount things, sometimes it is linear and sometimes not. The OT is sometimes linear (the six days) and sometimes not. When the 'sons of god shouted for joy' at the Creation - Job at the same 'time' says Yahweh is suspicious of His sons. Why? Check out psalm 82. David knew of this just as David knew of the plans for Solomon's temple. It plainly states that Yahweh (or Yeshua) had told him and personally recounted the temple plans. The Tartarus imprisonment of the 200 Watchers is for a finite period as well. And although much of the DNA-altering experiments perished in the flood (check out Greek and other mythologies) there were still a few giants left. Nimrod was probably a giant and Semiramis certainly had a very weird and perhaps demonically inspired beginning. The facts that many, many 'gods' and images reflect Ishtar and the Queen of Heaven, gives rise to the possibility that other fallen angelic beings were involved, but not so horrible as the Watchers since their punishment was well known. These 'gods' were given the job of overseeing the earthly kingdoms, but seem to have failed miserably, preferring perverted worship of their power. There is much to search out regarding these events, yet often the writers of the various scriptures were not intending a linear understanding since in the spirit world, it can be argues that it 'flits in and out' of our present timeline. This is why I think that the so-called 'alien craft' can move so fast and seem to flash in and out of reality. There is much to learn in this regard and for the world to be so taken aback that they believe the lies of demons and fallen angels, I can see that happenings will be so awe-inspiring that many will be taken in by them. They will seem to be very very real... Explain to me how something that has not been constructed yet can be without form and void?
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Post by John on May 1, 2018 3:58:12 GMT -5
I would think that without form and void could have been the state of the earth before the Lord began the actual creation of things that would exist on the earth. It would be a foundation, like when you begin to build a house. You have all the material there, but nothing built, until the actual construction begins.
Welcome back Hazard.
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Post by Hazard on May 2, 2018 15:50:48 GMT -5
This is how I see it.
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
It does not say, In the beginning God formed all the necessaries and planed to create the heaven and the earth so it at that time was without form and void.
Something happened after God created the heaven and the earth to make it without form and void.
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Post by John on May 2, 2018 17:39:25 GMT -5
This is how I see it. In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. It does not say, In the beginning God formed all the necessaries and planed to create the heaven and the earth so it at that time was without form and void. Something happened after God created the heaven and the earth to make it without form and void. Hazard, it is possible that you are right. For years, I believed in the gap theory, and I can't rule it out. You make a good point about questioning why God would make the earth without form and void, and there is also the issue of God telling Adam to replenish the earth, rather than simply pro-create. There is a possibility that the gap theory is correct. I am leaning in the other direction, having seen other explanations that make more sense to me, but I am not completely closed off to a pre-Adamite race of beings and the gap theory.
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Post by Hazard on May 2, 2018 21:58:08 GMT -5
Thanks for your reply. I never believed in the gap until I studied each and every Scripture and there are hundreds which lead to it. Have I posted this before? Takes days to fully read every Scripture.
God in the eternal past (Ps. 90:2; 93:2; Mic. 5:2; Heb. 9:14) The drafting of God's plan (Eph. 3:11; Heb. 1::3; 11:3; 1 Pet. 1:20) Creation of the heavens, including the sun, moon, and stars (Gen. 1:1; Col. 1:15-18; Ps. 8:3; 90:2; 95:5; 102:25; Isa. 40:12, 26; 45:12; 48:13) Creation of the spirit-world before the creation of earth (Job 38:4-7; Col. 1:15-18) Creation of the earth—made perfect the first time (Gen. 1:1; Job 38:4-7; Isa. 45:18; Heb. 11:3) Creation of the world (kosmos. social order) that then was (2 Pet. 3:5-7; Isa. 14:12-14; 45:18; Jer. 4:23-26; Ez. 28:11-17)
Lucifer's reign over the world that then was (Isa. 14:12-14;Jer. 4:23-26; Ez. 28:11-17; Col. 1:15-18). The length of his rule is unknown. Other thrones, dominions, principalities, and powers placed over other parts of the universe (Col. 1:15-18; Eph. 1:21; 3:10; 1 Pet. 3:22)
The kingdom of God universal—God the Supreme Moral Governor of the universe, and everything in harmony with Him (Job 38; Dan. 4:17, 25, 32, 35). The length of rule of the universal harmonious kingdom before Lucifer's rebellion is unknown.
Lucifer, the original ruler of the planet earth conceives an idea that he can obtain cooperation of other angelic beings, dethrone God, and become the exalted supreme ruler of the universe himself (Isa. 14: 12-14; Ez. 28:11-17; 1 Tim. 3:6).
Lucifer carries out his plans, falls through pride, and slanders the Almighty, causing his own subjects and over one third of God's angels (Rev. 12:7-12) to rebel against Him. The earth enters its first sinful career (Isa. 14:12-14; Ez. 28: 11-17; 1 Tim. 3:6). Length of the uprising is unknown.
Lucifer openly breaks relations with God and His government, leading his rebels from the appointed place of mobilization on earth into heaven in his attempt to dethrone God. He is met by Michael and the faithful angels and is defeated, being cast as lightning back to the earth (Isa. 14:12-14; Ez. 28:11-17; Lk. 10:18).
God destroys Lucifer's kingdom on earth completely, and curses the earth by destroying every bird, animal, fish, city, inhabitant, and all vegetation. He then turns the earth upside down, and by means of a great flood makes it empty and a waste (Gen. 1:2; Ps. 104:5-9; Isa. 14:12-14; Jer. 4:23-25.
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