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Post by knohope on Sept 21, 2019 20:33:29 GMT -5
I got rebaptise again after I said what I said, bc the first time I got Baptist I was 16, heartbroken over a boy so I had to get rebaptise again that what I been told bc it wasnt for God. And when I got rebaptise I didnt realize I commit the unpardonable sin until I reread the scriptures again and that when I felt overwhelmed and then I start praying to God. I remember the scripture saying God will bring things to remembrance and thats when I realize what I said in the past. My boyfriend is a Christian for like 30 years like on/off but he always believe/trust in God. I believe in God too but life got really rough for me and I stop wanting to serve God. Honestly when I said evil, I was being vindictive as in I wanted to prove a point...i was enrage and I didnt wanted to calm down and walk in the "spirit" which is why I said that...and then I became worried that I committed the unpardonable. To the false security on the internet I read that in mark 3 30 "they were saying" was a past imperfect meaning they said it more than once... thoughts? You said you were praying to God, and didn't realize you had committed the unpardonable sin until you re-read the scriptures. Are you saying that God reminded you of those scriptures, or did you just happen to be reading the Bible and saw it and got scared? What led you to those scriptures? I was reading the bible saw it and got scared. Pray to God and then I remember what I said in the past.
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Post by 2fw8212a on Sept 21, 2019 20:37:20 GMT -5
I was reading the bible saw it and got scared. Pray to God and then I remember what I said in the past. “...And Jesus said to her, “Neither do I condemn you; go and sin no more.”” - John 8:11“And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh,
He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses...” - Colossians 2:13
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Post by John on Sept 21, 2019 20:42:39 GMT -5
You said you were praying to God, and didn't realize you had committed the unpardonable sin until you re-read the scriptures. Are you saying that God reminded you of those scriptures, or did you just happen to be reading the Bible and saw it and got scared? What led you to those scriptures? I was reading the bible saw it and got scared. Pray to God and then I remember what I said in the past. Did you feel like God was telling you that he would not forgive you, or did you just feel like God was reminding you and convicting you so you would repent?
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Post by 2fw8212a on Sept 21, 2019 20:48:50 GMT -5
Did you feel like God was telling you that he would not forgive you, or did you just feel like God was reminding you and convicting you so you would repent?
“...God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.” - John 3:17“I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance.” - Luke 5:32
“For the Son of Man did not come to destroy men's lives but to save them...” - Luke 9:56
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Post by 2fw8212a on Sept 21, 2019 20:51:06 GMT -5
Did you feel like God was telling you that he would not forgive you, or did you just feel like God was reminding you and convicting you so you would repent?
“...God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.” - John 3:17“I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance.” - Luke 5:32
“For the Son of Man did not come to destroy men's lives but to save them...” - Luke 9:56
“...go and learn what this means: ‘I desire mercy and not sacrifice.’
For I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance.”” - Matthew 9:13“For God has committed them all to disobedience, that He might have mercy on all.” - Romans 11:32
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Post by John on Sept 21, 2019 20:51:43 GMT -5
Did you feel like God was telling you that he would not forgive you, or did you just feel like God was reminding you and convicting you so you would repent?
“...God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.” - John 3:17“I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance.” - Luke 5:32
“For the Son of Man did not come to destroy men's lives but to save them...” - Luke 9:56
The Bible says that those who blaspheme the Holy Ghost or speak against the Holy Ghost will never have forgiveness. That is why I am asking her those questions.
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Post by John on Sept 21, 2019 20:58:27 GMT -5
You said you were praying to God, and didn't realize you had committed the unpardonable sin until you re-read the scriptures. Are you saying that God reminded you of those scriptures, or did you just happen to be reading the Bible and saw it and got scared? What led you to those scriptures? I was reading the bible saw it and got scared. Pray to God and then I remember what I said in the past. I really think that if you want to be saved, you can be saved, but I am having a hard time telling if you are just scared or if God is drawing you to himself. If you were just remembering a foolish thing you said, that is not necessarily God telling you that you can't be saved. If you want to be saved, you need to seek God till you have peace about this.
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Post by 2fw8212a on Sept 21, 2019 20:59:48 GMT -5
The Bible says that those who blaspheme the Holy Ghost or speak against the Holy Ghost will never have forgiveness. That is why I am asking her those questions.
Where is written that we should ask people if they have committed a sin that God cannot forgive?!
If they can repent they can be forgiven.
It is no where in the Bible written that the apostles asked: Have you committed a sin that God cannot forgive?
Because there is no sin that can be confessed that God is not able to forgive.
“If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.” - 1 John 1:9
Be careful with leading people out of repentance. It is not the will of God that they should perish.
“The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness,
but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.” - 2 Peter 3:9
Take a look at this lesson, my friend:
“This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptance,
that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am chief.
However, for this reason I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might show all longsuffering,
as a pattern to those who are going to believe on Him for everlasting life.” - 1 Timothy 1:15-16
You are crossing a dangerous line by putting hurdles to God's forgiveness. BEWARE!
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Post by John on Sept 21, 2019 21:05:22 GMT -5
The Bible says that those who blaspheme the Holy Ghost or speak against the Holy Ghost will never have forgiveness. That is why I am asking her those questions.
Where is written that we should ask people if they have committed a sin that God cannot forgive?! If they can repent they can be forgiven. It is no where in the Bible written that the apostles asked: Have you committed a sin that God cannot forgive? Because there is no sin that can be confessed that God is not able to forgive. “If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.” - 1 John 1:9 Be careful with leading people out of repentance. It is not the will of God that they should perish. “The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness,
but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.” - 2 Peter 3:9 Take a look at this lesson, my friend: “This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptance,
that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am chief.
However, for this reason I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might show all longsuffering,
as a pattern to those who are going to believe on Him for everlasting life.” - 1 Timothy 1:15-16 You are crossing a dangerous line by putting hurdles to God's forgiveness. BEWARE!
I don't have an example in scripture where the disciples encountered a person who had spoken a word against the Holy Ghost, and neither have you. I believe what Jesus said. I want her to know that she knows she is saved. Telling her that she is okay when I don't know if that is true is not helping her. I am not talking her out of repentance. I am telling her she needs to seek God till she has assurance. I feel confident that if she has not crossed that line, the Lord will give her peace if she seeks Him. If she doesn't do that, she will always go around in fear.
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Post by John on Sept 21, 2019 21:18:32 GMT -5
The best thing we can do is be in prayer for knohope, that the Lord would have mercy on her and reveal Himself to her and give her peace of mind. If you care for her soul, pray for her. There is hope that she didn't cross the line.
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Post by knohope on Sept 21, 2019 21:43:55 GMT -5
I was reading the bible saw it and got scared. Pray to God and then I remember what I said in the past. Did you feel like God was telling you that he would not forgive you, or did you just feel like God was reminding you and convicting you so you would repent?
Here's more to my backstory. Before I got rebaptise again. I gotten into something really bad. I read a bad book and I know it sounds crazy but I was going through spiritual warfare. I went to a apostolic church and there was worship and I remember putting my hands up for the very first time without holding back and reaching out for God bc I was miserable with life and I started screaming like a crazy person but something just came over me and I would say thank you jesus every time I scream. The pastor said I was in bondage and jesus was breaking my chains bc I end up falling down crying and everyone around me started laying hands, speaking in tongue and praying for me. Slain in the spirit... and it wasnt fake bc I know sometime people would try to push you down and stuff... I was in the back of the church so I reach out to God on my own... this is my first experience. My second experience was different. I went to another apostolic church, Spanish speaking one on a whim bc my bf accuse me of cheating... for the record I'm innocence. I guess the enemy was attacking me really hard because I started being more paranoid. Like I didnt want to look at myself bc I was afraid that I might become possessed. Like idk one of my eye was bad so I would try to cover it and I was afraid of the dark and I would be twisting, turning and sweating kept trying to keep myself sane by saying bible verses in my head. Everyone thought I lost it but I know I'm not crazy... so I was at my mom's bf house bc I couldn't stay home alone and she's my witness.. and she is a women of God for like 70 years. I became really afraid and I remember the news was on and the people on television looked really evil and I would open the bible in psalms and I started to read out loud and I became red and I was shaking a lot also I had a bed sheet over my head as a covering and then out of no where a "force" pushed me down toward one of her end table and I broke her crystal vase... it was pretty crazy..I had to take a pill right after that. just that one time though. Anyway I went to the Spanish speaking church bc I need prayers really bad and I couldn't do it anymore and I came prepared and I was studying the word and got really inspired by God... and when I first step in the church I ran up to the stage and started reaching out my hands to Jesus saying help I'm here... the people thought I was crazyy... so my boyfriend was c'mon get down and I had to pray on the bench ..was a lil confused so I got my notes out and started reading the notes I wrote and I just let go and bam the pastor was behind me speaking in tongue..I was screaming again having a fit according to my bf... the sisters had to pin me down... it lasted for a good 30 mins.... they said whatever I gotten into was cursed...and I needed to get baptise asap.... idk but I'm okay now not oppressed anymore praise God... but after I got batpize I'm dealing with the unpardonable sin..... so to answer your question I have no idea what's going on.........
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Post by John on Sept 21, 2019 22:06:57 GMT -5
My feeling is that if you really want to be saved, you haven't gone too far. That shows that the Holy Spirit is still dealing with you. It sounds like the devil is going out of his way to make you feel condemned so you won't serve God. We have a live prayer meeting in the chat on Thursday at 8 PM Eastern, 5 PM Pacific time. You are welcome to come, and we will pray for you. I don't want you to give up. Seek the Lord till you find Him. If you need anything, if I am online, I will be happy to talk to you in the chat or in pms. My advise is that you seek the Lord till you are at peace that you have found Him. From what you have said, I feel like your mind was so mixed up, you didn't really know what you were doing when you said those things.
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Post by knohope on Sept 21, 2019 22:18:12 GMT -5
My feeling is that if you really want to be saved, you haven't gone too far. That shows that the Holy Spirit is still dealing with you. It sounds like the devil is going out of his way to make you feel condemned so you won't serve God. We have a live prayer meeting in the chat on Thursday at 8 PM Eastern, 5 PM Pacific time. You are welcome to come, and we will pray for you. I don't want you to give up. Seek the Lord till you find Him. If you need anything, if I am online, I will be happy to talk to you in the chat or in pms. My advise is that you seek the Lord till you are at peace that you have found Him. From what you have said, I feel like your mind was so mixed up, you didn't really know what you were doing when you said those things.
I said that statement b4 I wanted to come back to Christ again and I reason why I decided to go back to Christ was bc that awful book I read and then I went in spiritual battle got batpize and found out about the unpardonable sin again.
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Post by John on Sept 21, 2019 22:23:55 GMT -5
My feeling is that if you really want to be saved, you haven't gone too far. That shows that the Holy Spirit is still dealing with you. It sounds like the devil is going out of his way to make you feel condemned so you won't serve God. We have a live prayer meeting in the chat on Thursday at 8 PM Eastern, 5 PM Pacific time. You are welcome to come, and we will pray for you. I don't want you to give up. Seek the Lord till you find Him. If you need anything, if I am online, I will be happy to talk to you in the chat or in pms. My advise is that you seek the Lord till you are at peace that you have found Him. From what you have said, I feel like your mind was so mixed up, you didn't really know what you were doing when you said those things.
I said that statement b4 I wanted to come back to Christ again and I reason why I decided to go back to Christ was bc that awful book I read and then I went in spiritual battle got batpize and found out about the unpardonable sin again. What are you feeling now? Do you believe you committed the unpardonable sin? If you can be saved, do you want to be saved? You read an awful book that caused you to return to Christ. What was your reason for returning to the Lord? Was it out of fear or was it because you wanted to be saved? I feel like there are pieces to this puzzle I am not seeing. I want to see you saved and at peace. The last thing I am looking to do is condemn you, and I have never come across anyone that genuinely wanted to be saved that has ever been guilty of committing the unpardonable sin. When a person commits that sin, the Spirit departs from them, and you wouldn't have any concern about being saved. That is why I need to know, if you can be saved right now and know you are saved, do you want to be saved? Are you desiring to serve the Lord from this day forward?
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Post by knohope on Sept 21, 2019 22:53:04 GMT -5
I said that statement b4 I wanted to come back to Christ again and I reason why I decided to go back to Christ was bc that awful book I read and then I went in spiritual battle got batpize and found out about the unpardonable sin again. What are you feeling now? Do you believe you committed the unpardonable sin? If you can be saved, do you want to be saved? You read an awful book that caused you to return to Christ. What was your reason for returning to the Lord? Was it out of fear or was it because you wanted to be saved? I feel like there are pieces to this puzzle I am not seeing. I want to see you saved and at peace. The last thing I am looking to do is condemn you, and I have never come across anyone that genuinely wanted to be saved that has ever been guilty of committing the unpardonable sin. When a person commits that sin, the Spirit departs from them, and you wouldn't have any concern about being saved. That is why I need to know, if you can be saved right now and know you are saved, do you want to be saved? Are you desiring to serve the Lord from this day forward?
I really dont want to commit the unpardonable sin but I keeping coming back to what Jesus says and like you, I believe him... I do want to be save Okay I wanted to turn my life around and repent and be saved and it started with the awful book when I realize I needed Christ back in my life... yes I do want to serve the Lord but I'm struggling to be honest... bc of what the scriptures stated my only hope is it's not a one time mistake....
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