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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2020 20:01:26 GMT -5
I don't know what people here "think" I'm saying.....but all I'm doing is reminding of things that the scriptures say.....hello. So why should that come under attack and suspicion. Without the Holy Spirit we will not be able to understand those scriptures and rightly divide them, nor minister them in a right spirit. Why is that so hard to receive? Isn't it the truth? We don't want to just have a form of Godliness that denies the POWER (aka SPIRIT)....from such we are to turn away. And yes there are people who make an idol of the bible, that is a real kind of snare for some....even Jews parade their Torah scroll around and kiss it....I guess to them it's a tangible reminder of God. Wow we can have all the letters and words memorized inside out and backwards and be hunched over our bibles 8 hours a day and still be seeking to establish our own righteousness. But never mind I expect this post to be misunderstood as well. You all have a blessed day. Yes , but they KNOW NOT the TORAH , if they did THEY WOULD KNOW JESUS . yes many folks claim the bible as the word of GOD . YET look how they live , they don't know JESUS . they may profess HIM , yet deny HIM in works . These are not making an idol out of the bible , persay , they make an idol out of themselves and then claim it says thus or thus . TO a true lamb their is no such thing as making the bible and idol , ONLY those who DONT KNOW JESUS and thus don't know HOW to intrepet the bible . To a true lamb , as YOU DO KNOW , the bible is OUR BOOK and by what we test all things spoken said , taught or wrote AGAINST . All idolatry boils down to self-worship.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2020 20:04:16 GMT -5
I did not accuse anyone here of worshiping the bible.....i am saying it is possible and that some certainly do worship a dead letter as if they have no living relationship with the Living Christ who alone can give LIFE to those words. Remember Jesus saying to the religious leaders how they studied and read the scriptures which testified ABOUT Him, but they wouldn't come to HIM Himself. I am someone who loves the word of God and even when the Lord opens the word to my understanding or ministers to me through His word I will even kiss the bible myself and raise it to heaven rejoicing and thanking the Lord. Go figure (or rather don't let's try to figure that out ourselves). Golly, so many accusations around here for simply reminding of things the bible says. Hmmm.. Hmmm. I can't think of a single instance where you were accused for "simply reminding of things the Bible says." I have heard you pervert the meaning of scriptures, ignore others, and promote the idea that the Spirit revealing things to an individual may have more weight than "dead letters." Well brother you are free to continue not understanding me and putting words in my mouth that I neither say nor think. Lord bless and keep.
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Post by John on Feb 5, 2020 20:04:30 GMT -5
Yes , but they KNOW NOT the TORAH , if they did THEY WOULD KNOW JESUS . yes many folks claim the bible as the word of GOD . YET look how they live , they don't know JESUS . they may profess HIM , yet deny HIM in works . These are not making an idol out of the bible , persay , they make an idol out of themselves and then claim it says thus or thus . TO a true lamb their is no such thing as making the bible and idol , ONLY those who DONT KNOW JESUS and thus don't know HOW to intrepet the bible . To a true lamb , as YOU DO KNOW , the bible is OUR BOOK and by what we test all things spoken said , taught or wrote AGAINST . All idolatry boils down to self-worship. That is true of humanism, but not all idolatry. People worship all kinds of things. The creation is one thing people often choose to worship, rather than the creator. Some worship graven images. Some worship false deities.
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Post by John on Feb 5, 2020 20:06:19 GMT -5
Hmmm. I can't think of a single instance where you were accused for "simply reminding of things the Bible says." I have heard you pervert the meaning of scriptures, ignore others, and promote the idea that the Spirit revealing things to an individual may have more weight than "dead letters." Well brother you are free to continue not understanding me and putting words in my mouth that I neither say nor think. Lord bless and keep. I will tell you what. Lets just focus on the Bible and what it says. I think that all of us, including me, should make an effort to stop making this all personal.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2020 20:08:40 GMT -5
All idolatry boils down to self-worship. That is true of humanism, but not all idolatry. People worship all kinds of things. The creation is one thing people often choose to worship, rather than the creator. Some worship graven images. Some worship false deities.
People worship what seemeth right to them...that is self worship. Have a good night.
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Post by John on Feb 5, 2020 20:11:37 GMT -5
That is true of humanism, but not all idolatry. People worship all kinds of things. The creation is one thing people often choose to worship, rather than the creator. Some worship graven images. Some worship false deities.
People worship what seemeth right to them...that is self worship. Have a good night. If you see a statue as your god, how is that self worship? How about those who worship the devil, or devils? What about those worshipping Buddha? That is not self-worship. I really don't see why this would be an important point anyway? Whether you are a humanist, or you worship a false deity, false is false. You have a good night too.
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Post by frienduff on Feb 5, 2020 20:24:35 GMT -5
Yes , but they KNOW NOT the TORAH , if they did THEY WOULD KNOW JESUS . yes many folks claim the bible as the word of GOD . YET look how they live , they don't know JESUS . they may profess HIM , yet deny HIM in works . These are not making an idol out of the bible , persay , they make an idol out of themselves and then claim it says thus or thus . TO a true lamb their is no such thing as making the bible and idol , ONLY those who DONT KNOW JESUS and thus don't know HOW to intrepet the bible . To a true lamb , as YOU DO KNOW , the bible is OUR BOOK and by what we test all things spoken said , taught or wrote AGAINST . All idolatry boils down to self-worship. Oh but to love every word God ever inspired in the most beautiful book , is not idolatry . I just cant say it enough , it is truly as though every thing GOD inspired is worthy of all our heart as HE is worthy. I honestly don't know how to separate the love of GOD from the love of His word and truth , nor would I want too . Nor do I think this is what you mean either . You are loved sister .
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Post by frienduff on Feb 5, 2020 20:26:20 GMT -5
That is true of humanism, but not all idolatry. People worship all kinds of things. The creation is one thing people often choose to worship, rather than the creator. Some worship graven images. Some worship false deities.
People worship what seemeth right to them...that is self worship. Have a good night. You are right on sister . we worship what we love , what we love is what we worship . Any religion or mindset contrary to Christ , IS the worship of self . straight up right on this is .
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Post by frienduff on Feb 5, 2020 20:30:06 GMT -5
All idolatry boils down to self-worship. That is true of humanism, but not all idolatry. People worship all kinds of things. The creation is one thing people often choose to worship, rather than the creator. Some worship graven images. Some worship false deities.
She is right on this butero . THINK on this , pray on this for a bit . WHY do people covet . and even covetous is idolatry . WHY do they covet money for example . FOR THIER OWN DESIRES , it is worship of self , they what is best for THEM . Any other religion is the same too . Think about that for a bit . Anything contrary to GOD , to embrace that is to embrace what self THINKS makes IT HAPPY . what serves what , THE FLESH . Serves us .
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Post by frienduff on Feb 5, 2020 20:31:12 GMT -5
People who know not Christ , serve SELF , they do worship themselves. They pick a religion that suits who , THEM .
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Post by solid on Feb 5, 2020 21:58:49 GMT -5
People worship what seemeth right to them...that is self worship. Have a good night. You are right on sister . we worship what we love , what we love is what we worship . Any religion or mindset contrary to Christ , IS the worship of self . straight up right on this is . I have to disagree on that. Worshipping an idol is not worshipping self. That doesn't even make sense. All idol worship will send a person to the same hell.
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Post by solid on Feb 5, 2020 22:02:38 GMT -5
That is true of humanism, but not all idolatry. People worship all kinds of things. The creation is one thing people often choose to worship, rather than the creator. Some worship graven images. Some worship false deities.
She is right on this butero . THINK on this , pray on this for a bit . WHY do people covet . and even covetous is idolatry . WHY do they covet money for example . FOR THIER OWN DESIRES , it is worship of self , they what is best for THEM . Any other religion is the same too . Think about that for a bit . Anything contrary to GOD , to embrace that is to embrace what self THINKS makes IT HAPPY . what serves what , THE FLESH . Serves us . I don't even think she is right. It is true about things like money, but not Baal worship or things like that. People often worship idols out of fear. It is not because it profits them. People sacrifice their own children to false gods out of fear. It is not all worship of self. John is right.
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Post by solid on Feb 5, 2020 22:04:49 GMT -5
People who know not Christ , serve SELF , they do worship themselves. They pick a religion that suits who , THEM . A lot of people do that, but not always. The people Paul met worshipping the unknown god were doing that out of fear, covering all bases. That had nothing to do with self.
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Post by solid on Feb 5, 2020 22:08:36 GMT -5
Well brother you are free to continue not understanding me and putting words in my mouth that I neither say nor think. Lord bless and keep. I will tell you what. Lets just focus on the Bible and what it says. I think that all of us, including me, should make an effort to stop making this all personal.
I do think debates are becoming too personal, and I hope this is possible. There have been major disagreements, but we should try to avoid attacking each other. Just stay with the scriptures.
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Post by John on Feb 6, 2020 4:49:56 GMT -5
That is true of humanism, but not all idolatry. People worship all kinds of things. The creation is one thing people often choose to worship, rather than the creator. Some worship graven images. Some worship false deities.
She is right on this butero . THINK on this , pray on this for a bit . WHY do people covet . and even covetous is idolatry . WHY do they covet money for example . FOR THIER OWN DESIRES , it is worship of self , they what is best for THEM . Any other religion is the same too . Think about that for a bit . Anything contrary to GOD , to embrace that is to embrace what self THINKS makes IT HAPPY . what serves what , THE FLESH . Serves us . She said that all idolatry is about self worship. Had she said that idolatry is often about self worship, I would have agreed with that, but not all idolatry. Sometimes, the worship of idols goes completely against what is best for the individual. They just believe in a false god, and place their trust in it. I don't agree with what she said since she said it is always the case.
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