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Post by solid on Jun 5, 2020 11:06:23 GMT -5
I've witnessed all I need to see, friend. Sister watchful harmed no one. I'm confused: how were wrongs committed by "everyone?" Who leveled the accusation against whom? According to your own information this forum is an "online church." Who makes the call between moderation activity and the love between brethren? I've been silent since joining because I wanted to learn all I could before reaching a judgment as to whether or not I have fellowship with you. What I've read here in this thread isn't the first time sister watchful has been accosted by members of your church. What does this say about discipline and self-control, both of which are fruits of the Spirit? That's not evident here. I'll leave you all to your reward. You were not here when Watchful attacked members of this forum and stormed out, before signing up again with no apologies to anyone. It was done in public, so I have no reason to cover this up. I still have the entire text of what she did and said. There has been wrong doing by people that you would have no way of knowing. There is a history that you are unaware of. She was very rude to me and John, but that's in the past. I never got any apology, but that's ok.
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Post by solid on Jun 5, 2020 11:10:35 GMT -5
I'm mystified. What does "working for George" have to do with the subject matter at hand? How has such a thing become an accusation against sister watchful? I'm reminded of how the Word made flesh didn't always furnish His accusers with an answer. They sought to lay snares with words but the Lord avoided them all. Some "questions" surely don't warrant an answer. Isn't this forum supposed to be an online church? If this is how you treat the visitor in your midst then I implore you to examine such conduct before the Lord bearing in mind the scripture, Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man. (Matthew 15:11) What visitor? She is a member.
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Post by 777 on Jun 5, 2020 11:12:00 GMT -5
You were not here when Watchful attacked members of this forum and stormed out, before signing up again with no apologies to anyone. It was done in public, so I have no reason to cover this up. I still have the entire text of what she did and said. There has been wrong doing by people that you would have no way of knowing. There is a history that you are unaware of. She was very rude to me and John, but that's in the past. I never got any apology, but that's ok. I remember. She said that if you were in her house, she would throw you out, or something like that. She really should apologize to you.
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Post by 777 on Jun 5, 2020 11:14:08 GMT -5
Upon your advise Frienduff, watchful , are you working with George? Well I'm afraid I can't agree brother. We should rather admonish one another to exercise discernment out of a sincere heart, rather than plying each other with insinuating questions out of a suspicous and wrongly motivated heart. Otherwise it's too much like having a form of godliness without the power. While I still feel like most people would have just answered the questions and moved on, John told me that perhaps I was too accusatory in my question to you, so for that, I apologize.
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Post by solid on Jun 5, 2020 11:18:59 GMT -5
Well I'm afraid I can't agree brother. We should rather admonish one another to exercise discernment out of a sincere heart, rather than plying each other with insinuating questions out of a suspicous and wrongly motivated heart. Otherwise it's too much like having a form of godliness without the power. While I still feel like most people would have just answered the questions and moved on, John told me that perhaps I was too accusatory in my question to you, so for that, I apologize. I don't think you needed to apologize for asking questions, but maybe we can move on now.
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Post by ohhello on Jun 5, 2020 11:20:11 GMT -5
She was very rude to me and John, but that's in the past. I never got any apology, but that's ok. I remember. She said that if you were in her house, she would throw you out, or something like that. She really should apologize to you. Sorry to hear that. I had someone say that to me online a few years ago and it was very hurtful. Praying for healing.
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Post by 777 on Jun 5, 2020 11:26:18 GMT -5
I remember. She said that if you were in her house, she would throw you out, or something like that. She really should apologize to you. Sorry to hear that. I had someone say that to me online a few years ago and it was very hurtful. Praying for healing. That is terrible. I cannot imagine anyone saying something like that to you.
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Post by John on Jun 5, 2020 11:34:38 GMT -5
Sorry to hear that. I had someone say that to me online a few years ago and it was very hurtful. Praying for healing. That is terrible. I cannot imagine anyone saying something like that to you. Me neither. She is one of the nicest ladies I have met.
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Post by 2fw8212a on Jun 5, 2020 11:41:09 GMT -5
Upon your advise Frienduff, watchful , are you working with George? This is really a simple question that 777 asked you watchful I do not understand why you did not just dismiss this if it was not true, and if it is, why not just say so? These are the kind of things I hate to see fester for nothing. Please, let us cultivate peace.
You already saw sister watchful is not willing to give an answer, then do not insist in it.
❝Let him turn away from evil and do good;
Let him seek peace and pursue it.❞ - 1 Peter 3:11
❝A perverse man sows strife,
And a whisperer separates the best of friends.❞ - Proverbs 16:28
Do not promote dissensions by renewing this matter over and over. It is her choice to answer or not.
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Post by John on Jun 5, 2020 11:43:57 GMT -5
This is really a simple question that 777 asked you watchful I do not understand why you did not just dismiss this if it was not true, and if it is, why not just say so? These are the kind of things I hate to see fester for nothing. Please, let us cultivate peace.
You already saw sister watchful is not willing to give an answer, then do not insist in it.
❝Let him turn away from evil and do good;
Let him seek peace and pursue it.❞ - 1 Peter 3:11
❝A perverse man sows strife,
And a whisperer separates the best of friends.❞ - Proverbs 16:28
Do not promote dissensions by renewing this matter over and over. It is her choice to answer or not. I agree, and I think most of us feel we should just move past this.
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Post by frienduff on Jun 5, 2020 11:58:18 GMT -5
That is terrible. I cannot imagine anyone saying something like that to you. Me neither. She is one of the nicest ladies I have met. Then let us remember something . So long as we point to the KING and remind all about His sayings and those of the apostles , no matter how kind and nice , serious , grave we are . EXPECT NOT LOVE in return . I am on a potential terroist list . AS ARE WE ALL . and yet i dont even beleive in self defense . I believe that if my enemy were to come to kill me , i should pray his forgivness . OH i know i am seen as odd , but how is a man who believes that to take life is wrong , and beleives that not only should he not kill his enemy , but to pray even for that enemy and his forgivness too . YET , To the every growing inclusive society , I TELL US ALL , we will be seen as monsters , as haters , as dangerous , as beside ourselves , as having no love . But , remember several things . LOOK at JESUS . WHO ENDURED such a CONTRADICTION of sinners against His own self , and HE SAID the world hated me , IT WILL YOU TOO . SO they can put all their dreams in a giant cumbyia pipe and smoke it up , only , I WONT BE HITTING THAT PIPE . I GOT THE KING , all the lambs DO , AND UNTO HE ALONE WE DO HEED .
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Post by frienduff on Jun 5, 2020 12:02:42 GMT -5
This is really a simple question that 777 asked you watchful I do not understand why you did not just dismiss this if it was not true, and if it is, why not just say so? These are the kind of things I hate to see fester for nothing. Please, let us cultivate peace.
You already saw sister watchful is not willing to give an answer, then do not insist in it.
❝Let him turn away from evil and do good;
Let him seek peace and pursue it.❞ - 1 Peter 3:11
❝A perverse man sows strife,
And a whisperer separates the best of friends.❞ - Proverbs 16:28
Do not promote dissensions by renewing this matter over and over. It is her choice to answer or not.yes . lets just move on from it . its sad . i weep for dear sister . this could have easily been fixed . but now we must pray more and more for her and for us all , that what we always DO is RIGHT IN THE SIGHT OF THE KING . Now that does include correction of any false thing ever said . But assumptoins , nope they ought to be disregauded , LEST one has a solid PROOF . the SPIRIT will always make what it says COME TO PASS . If not , then it was just an assumptoin on our part . SO , i say let us just pray for our sister that GOD works upon her heart , and Upon all our ours too .
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Post by John on Jun 5, 2020 12:02:53 GMT -5
Me neither. She is one of the nicest ladies I have met. Then let us remember something . So long as we point to the KING and remind all about His sayings and those of the apostles , no matter how kind and nice , serious , grave we are . EXPECT NOT LOVE in return . I am on a potential terroist list . AS ARE WE ALL . and yet i dont even beleive in self defense . I believe that if my enemy were to come to kill me , i should pray his forgivness . OH i know i am seen as odd , but how is a man who believes that to take life is wrong , and beleives that not only should he not kill his enemy , but to pray even for that enemy and his forgivness too . YET , To the every growing inclusive society , I TELL US ALL , we will be seen as monsters , as haters , as dangerous , as beside ourselves , as having no love . But , remember several things . LOOK at JESUS . WHO ENDURED such a CONTRADICTION of sinners against His own self , and HE SAID the world hated me , IT WILL YOU TOO . SO they can put all their dreams in a giant cumbyia pipe and smoke it up , only , I WONT BE HITTING THAT PIPE . I GOT THE KING , all the lambs DO , AND UNTO HE ALONE WE DO HEED . Not believing in self defense as an individual can seem to work, but imagine if everyone followed your lead? We would not have any police force or military. Who would be there to protect the innocent from being attacked? If we are willing to call on the police to rescue us, how can we then say that we would not protect ourselves or our families? The same thing goes with the military. We are happy knowing they are there to protect us. How can we then say self defense is wrong? It works when the number of pacifists is low, but not if everyone was one.
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Post by frienduff on Jun 5, 2020 12:09:07 GMT -5
Now . let us get fired up for the things that be of GOD , opening bibles and reading them every day and exhorting one another daily , AND SO MUCH THE MORE as we SEEEEEEE THE DAY APPROACHING . YET exhort on all remminders of the King and all sound doctrine . And test everything that anyone does speak . IT MUST LINE UP WITH what JESUS TAUGHT and those apostels taught . IF NOT , ITS A NO NO . Let us exhort daily , lest any does become hardened through the decietfulness of sin , By which many have and many more will . THUS HEED THE SPIRIT , NOT THE FLESH LEARN JESUS WELL , LEARN what the apostels taught well . HEED THE SPIRIT , flee hermes . We dont need mens wisdom to understand the scrips . WHO INSPIRED the scrips , And the WORD DID BECOME FLESH . WE MUST HEED and LEARN OF HIM . HEED HIM . LEARN HIM WELL in that BIBLE . DO IT . DO IT , mass deceptoins are aboudding everywhere . folks are teaching so many seducing things that allure to the carnal side of man . and they think its the SPIRIT , but NO IT AINT . cause the SPIRIT does not contradict TRUTH . IT IS TRUTH . and any spirit that condtradicts the words of our LORD in that BIBLE , IS ANOTHER SPIRIT , it leads them to ANOTHER jesus , it gives them a false hope , a false love , a false unity , a false freedom . It lies to them . tells them things that a child of no understanding will easily accept . This spirit and that which is of it , Has been here for a long , long time . AND ITS A LIAR and A SEDUCER . Lambs heed it not . OPEN BIBLES and LEARN WELL .
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Post by frienduff on Jun 5, 2020 12:18:46 GMT -5
Then let us remember something . So long as we point to the KING and remind all about His sayings and those of the apostles , no matter how kind and nice , serious , grave we are . EXPECT NOT LOVE in return . I am on a potential terroist list . AS ARE WE ALL . and yet i dont even beleive in self defense . I believe that if my enemy were to come to kill me , i should pray his forgivness . OH i know i am seen as odd , but how is a man who believes that to take life is wrong , and beleives that not only should he not kill his enemy , but to pray even for that enemy and his forgivness too . YET , To the every growing inclusive society , I TELL US ALL , we will be seen as monsters , as haters , as dangerous , as beside ourselves , as having no love . But , remember several things . LOOK at JESUS . WHO ENDURED such a CONTRADICTION of sinners against His own self , and HE SAID the world hated me , IT WILL YOU TOO . SO they can put all their dreams in a giant cumbyia pipe and smoke it up , only , I WONT BE HITTING THAT PIPE . I GOT THE KING , all the lambs DO , AND UNTO HE ALONE WE DO HEED . Not believing in self defense as an individual can seem to work, but imagine if everyone followed your lead? We would not have any police force or military. Who would be there to protect the innocent from being attacked? If we are willing to call on the police to rescue us, how can we then say that we would not protect ourselves or our families? The same thing goes with the military. We are happy knowing they are there to protect us. How can we then say self defense is wrong? It works when the number of pacifists is low, but not if everyone was one. Man . Obama nearly said that word for word john . NOT that you agree with him . but i watched him say this too . but he was mocking the heck out of the sermon on the mount when he did it . The point being made is this , my best guess is , if i remain , LORD willing on this earth , for a time , OL FRIENDUFF gonna be seen as one dangerous vile and wicked man . DO not be suprised nor marvel if things like what i say next happen . yall could be seeing on the news , In time ahead, today a man was captured . he had guns in his house . he was writing of threats of harming folks . And its me . AND THEY ARE LYING TO THE WORLD and all . THEY GONNA LIE about us friend . and much more they will have the world so convinced by then , that we are all haters . THINK it cant happen . ITS NOT IF , BUT WHEN . They are gonna come for the loudest ones first . WHEN ONCE the TIME is allowed . My point was to make us THINK . And not to marvel WHEN those things begin to happen . Churches will spy on us , they will mark us and watch us and anyone not fitting in , Will be observed and turned over to authorites . ITS NOT IF MY FRIENDS , ONLY WHEN . ITS COMING and ITS COMING WORLDWIDE . and they gonna have a mark man . and by that mark they will determine friend from foe . WHOEVER has it not or speaks against it , IS THE FOE OF THE WORLD my friends . ITS COMING . mars hill is just a pimple of what is to come . just a pimple . YOU watch , SEE , watch how they start hinting at what is potnetially dangerous , or not good for society AND when i say watch , i mean our own churches GONNA DOTHIS . AS WILL THE WORLD . ITS COMING . but as i said , i have no idea if i will even be here still . no man knows his last day . but whether i am gone or still here at HIS COMING , THE WORDS CLING TO THE KING will utter out of this mouth . OH let it be SO LORD .
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