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Post by Jesus Christ teachings on Aug 17, 2019 14:35:24 GMT -5
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.
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Post by John on Aug 17, 2019 15:03:03 GMT -5
That is amazing when we think about the works Jesus did. He turned water into wine, took 5 loaves and 2 fishes and fed over 5000, healed the sick, raised the dead, walked on water, etc., and says that if we believe on Him, the works he does, we shall do also, and even greater. He also says that if we ask anything in Jesus' name, He will do it. We just have to believe.
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Post by 2fw8212a on Aug 17, 2019 16:59:06 GMT -5
...if we believe on Him, the works he does, we shall do also...
I can prove this is true:
“...Peter answered Him and said,
“Lord, if it is You, command me to come to You on the water.”” - Matthew 14:28
Then Peter started walking...
“So He said, “Come.”
And when Peter had come down out of the boat, he walked on the water to go to Jesus.” - Matthew 14:29
But when unbelief came to Peter, he started stopped walking on the water.
“...when he saw that the wind was boisterous, he was afraid;
and beginning to sink he cried out, saying, “Lord, save me!”” - Matthew 14:30
Then Jesus said:
“And immediately Jesus stretched out His hand and caught him,
and said to him, “O you of little faith, why did you doubt?”” - Matthew 14:31
Do you want to do Jesus works?! You must have faith.
“...Have faith in God.
For assuredly, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain,
‘Be removed and be cast into the sea,’ and does not doubt in his heart,
but believes that those things he says will be done, he will have whatever he says.” - Mark 11:22-23
“...and nothing will be impossible for you.” - Matthew 17:20
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Post by frienduff on Aug 17, 2019 17:28:21 GMT -5
OH to the LORD be all glory . Hands up and praise the LORD . He gives us dreams and visions too . But in this ONE THING let us REJOICE . THAT our names are wrote above in heaven . Let us be humble and very thankful unto the LORD at all times . HANDS UP , my friends , HANDS UP and praise the LORD .
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Post by michaelcla22 on Nov 22, 2019 0:10:41 GMT -5
this is really greatest work by Jesus.
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Post by solid on Nov 22, 2019 7:31:15 GMT -5
this is really greatest work by Jesus. It is amazing to think we could do greater works than Jesus if we believe.
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Post by frienduff on Nov 22, 2019 9:08:21 GMT -5
this is really greatest work by Jesus. Exactly . Do you remember when the desicples returned and they were REJOICING . Do you remember that GOD had given Lucifer all gifts and great wisdom .
WHY do I bring this up .
Let us read the whole event . God had given Lucifer great wisdom , perfect in beauty he was , TILL inquity was found in Him . What had been the fall of Lucifer . For satan did fall from heaven . He became enamoured with the things GOD had given him . He became enamoured with the gifts , with the wisdom , etc .
And now a word from our LORD long ago to his own desiciples .
And they returned , REJIOCING and saying LORD even the demons are subject unto us THROUGH YOUR NAME . AND JESUS SAID . BEHOLD , BEHOLD I saw satan fall from heaven I DO GIVE YOU the power to cast out serpents , tread down scorpions and etc BUT IN THIS DO NOT REJOICE . RIGHT THERE JESUS HAD SPOTTED what had been the down fall of satan , IN THEM . HE Saw them rejoicing IN THE POWER AND HE SHUT IT DOWN FAST . DO NOT rejoice in this , don't , but rather REJOICE THAT YOUR NAMES ARE WROTE ABOVE .
I warn us all , many great men and small have become enamoured with the POWER , the gifts and have made entire ministries based on this and have fallen and have led many men astray . The all out call to a return to child like faith is being sounded . WE DO have all gifts and things necessary , BUT DONT MAKE A MINISITRY out of it . Let none become enamoured with the very things GOD HIMSELF simply gave us . RATHER FOCUS on the spreading of the gospel , rather make the focus on sound doctrine , and the gifts will be used as they are needed , and WHEN they are needed . BE ON GAURD .
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Post by frienduff on Nov 22, 2019 9:21:43 GMT -5
Remember we will have all things we need , we will have the gifts . But let none do as many through all ages and specially the last few generations have done and make a ministry out of it . For many men and women have done so and have became enamoured with the power and have been lifted up in pride and teach little on doctrine and much leaven and have destroyed many pastures and many flocks . Be on guard . we simply know we have as we need , let the focus be on the gospel , THE REAL GOSPLE and not a ministry of just doing the good works etc But the real proclaiming that JESUS ALONE SAVES and the good works don't leave undone . Let sound doctrine and bible teaching be instructed unto the people , let the children be humble . And let all understand that as we get only closer to the coming of the TRUE KING , times get only worse . No mention of great awakenings were ever given WHEN JESUS told his own about the signs of the end . NO mentions of great awakenings were given by paul , or peter concerning the last days . Let none be caught up in what I see abounding like a forest fire through churches , denominations , even other false religions and the world . The unction one had and the warning I myself was given too , ITS BEGAN and we better BE ON GAURD . Test all men , get the senses sharpened through sound doctrine in that bible again . The way this got into the churches , was that men took off heeding just bible doctrine , then while still saying words like the bible is good , THEY still began downplaying the dire importance of TEACHING FROM IT and doing it daily . But the scriptures , paul wrote and told timothy and said TO MAKE SURE he read them to the church , teach them to the church . PAUL never told timothy tricky things like , WE DONT NEEED to teach the bible , heck we are like walking bibles anyway . Be on guard this is the way one can deceive . While they will still talk good about the bible , THEY say these kinds of things . WHEN IN TRUTH , PAUL said quite the opposite , HE SAID TEACH IT and so did peter . SO watch out . men know how to play on words . we have to be on guard in all things . WE in the greatest of the falling away and it will get worse . Be on guard and test all stewards , and all who speak and test them WITH BIBLE SOUND DOCTRINE . GET those senses sharp and fast and HE is with THE SHEEP and shall guide us.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2019 7:13:39 GMT -5
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it. Those are encouraging scriptures.....and I think most of us need to be encouraged as well as discipled to exercise our faith and the authority that Jesus delegated to the church. We are by far falling short of what we need to be doing in regards to "healing all who are oppressed by the devil." The devil is having a hay-day and we as the Body of Christ are not doing enough to take back ground for the glory and kingdom of God.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2019 7:30:43 GMT -5
this is really greatest work by Jesus. Exactly . Do you remember when the desicples returned and they were REJOICING . Do you remember that GOD had given Lucifer all gifts and great wisdom .
WHY do I bring this up .
Let us read the whole event . God had given Lucifer great wisdom , perfect in beauty he was , TILL inquity was found in Him . What had been the fall of Lucifer . For satan did fall from heaven . He became enamoured with the things GOD had given him . He became enamoured with the gifts , with the wisdom , etc .
And now a word from our LORD long ago to his own desiciples .
And they returned , REJIOCING and saying LORD even the demons are subject unto us THROUGH YOUR NAME . AND JESUS SAID . BEHOLD , BEHOLD I saw satan fall from heaven I DO GIVE YOU the power to cast out serpents , tread down scorpions and etc BUT IN THIS DO NOT REJOICE . RIGHT THERE JESUS HAD SPOTTED what had been the down fall of satan , IN THEM . HE Saw them rejoicing IN THE POWER AND HE SHUT IT DOWN FAST . DO NOT rejoice in this , don't , but rather REJOICE THAT YOUR NAMES ARE WROTE ABOVE .
I warn us all , many great men and small have become enamoured with the POWER , the gifts and have made entire ministries based on this and have fallen and have led many men astray . The all out call to a return to child like faith is being sounded . WE DO have all gifts and things necessary , BUT DONT MAKE A MINISITRY out of it . Let none become enamoured with the very things GOD HIMSELF simply gave us . RATHER FOCUS on the spreading of the gospel , rather make the focus on sound doctrine , and the gifts will be used as they are needed , and WHEN they are needed . BE ON GAURD .
Brother, this is excellent and very well said, praise the Lord. AT the same time we don't want to throw cold water on anyone teaching and encouraging the body of believers to exercise authority over snakes and scorpions in the name of Jesus. It is such a badly needed ministry and we are not doing nearly enough in that regard and need to be encouraged and reminded, as well as I believe discipled. But amen, also to be reminded of not letting it go to our heads, because pride goeth before a fall. I know you are addressing mainly those few 'celebrity' style ministers in the church that is falling away........but I have a question about all this for anyone......is the authority to heal all who are oppressed by the devil given only to some in the body of Christ, or is it really for all believers, since we are a priesthood of all believers...or maybe that is speaking of the church as a whole in some respects. I have seen a little of demons being sent packing, but not nearly enough, for the most part I feel helpless in face of people who are badly oppressed, and I feel badly that I am falling short of what needs to be done. For me I have trouble taking authority and not sure why, I am just not an authoritative type of person....is it because I'm a woman, or because I still need more healing myself, or maybe it's just not my area of gifting, though I desire it and hate seeing the devil have the upper hand. I think demonic oppression literally prevents many from receiving Christ as well as that they suffer so badly.....but do they need deliverance first in order to be able to be saved.?
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Post by PG4Him on Nov 24, 2019 8:45:14 GMT -5
Exactly . Do you remember when the desicples returned and they were REJOICING . Do you remember that GOD had given Lucifer all gifts and great wisdom .
WHY do I bring this up .
Let us read the whole event . God had given Lucifer great wisdom , perfect in beauty he was , TILL inquity was found in Him . What had been the fall of Lucifer . For satan did fall from heaven . He became enamoured with the things GOD had given him . He became enamoured with the gifts , with the wisdom , etc .
And now a word from our LORD long ago to his own desiciples .
And they returned , REJIOCING and saying LORD even the demons are subject unto us THROUGH YOUR NAME . AND JESUS SAID . BEHOLD , BEHOLD I saw satan fall from heaven I DO GIVE YOU the power to cast out serpents , tread down scorpions and etc BUT IN THIS DO NOT REJOICE . RIGHT THERE JESUS HAD SPOTTED what had been the down fall of satan , IN THEM . HE Saw them rejoicing IN THE POWER AND HE SHUT IT DOWN FAST . DO NOT rejoice in this , don't , but rather REJOICE THAT YOUR NAMES ARE WROTE ABOVE .
I warn us all , many great men and small have become enamoured with the POWER , the gifts and have made entire ministries based on this and have fallen and have led many men astray . The all out call to a return to child like faith is being sounded . WE DO have all gifts and things necessary , BUT DONT MAKE A MINISITRY out of it . Let none become enamoured with the very things GOD HIMSELF simply gave us . RATHER FOCUS on the spreading of the gospel , rather make the focus on sound doctrine , and the gifts will be used as they are needed , and WHEN they are needed . BE ON GAURD .
Brother, this is excellent and very well said, praise the Lord. AT the same time we don't want to throw cold water on anyone teaching and encouraging the body of believers to exercise authority over snakes and scorpions in the name of Jesus. It is such a badly needed ministry and we are not doing nearly enough in that regard and need to be encouraged and reminded, as well as I believe discipled. But amen, also to be reminded of not letting it go to our heads, because pride goeth before a fall. I know you are addressing mainly those few 'celebrity' style ministers in the church that is falling away........but I have a question about all this for anyone......is the authority to heal all who are oppressed by the devil given only to some in the body of Christ, or is it really for all believers, since we are a priesthood of all believers...or maybe that is speaking of the church as a whole in some respects. I have seen a little of demons being sent packing, but not nearly enough, for the most part I feel helpless in face of people who are badly oppressed, and I feel badly that I am falling short of what needs to be done. For me I have trouble taking authority and not sure why, I am just not an authoritative type of person....is it because I'm a woman, or because I still need more healing myself, or maybe it's just not my area of gifting, though I desire it and hate seeing the devil have the upper hand. I think demonic oppression literally prevents many from receiving Christ as well as that they suffer so badly.....but do they need deliverance first in order to be able to be saved.? The powerless body is a major source of doubt even among some Christians.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2019 9:16:53 GMT -5
Brother, this is excellent and very well said, praise the Lord. AT the same time we don't want to throw cold water on anyone teaching and encouraging the body of believers to exercise authority over snakes and scorpions in the name of Jesus. It is such a badly needed ministry and we are not doing nearly enough in that regard and need to be encouraged and reminded, as well as I believe discipled. But amen, also to be reminded of not letting it go to our heads, because pride goeth before a fall. I know you are addressing mainly those few 'celebrity' style ministers in the church that is falling away........but I have a question about all this for anyone......is the authority to heal all who are oppressed by the devil given only to some in the body of Christ, or is it really for all believers, since we are a priesthood of all believers...or maybe that is speaking of the church as a whole in some respects. I have seen a little of demons being sent packing, but not nearly enough, for the most part I feel helpless in face of people who are badly oppressed, and I feel badly that I am falling short of what needs to be done. For me I have trouble taking authority and not sure why, I am just not an authoritative type of person....is it because I'm a woman, or because I still need more healing myself, or maybe it's just not my area of gifting, though I desire it and hate seeing the devil have the upper hand. I think demonic oppression literally prevents many from receiving Christ as well as that they suffer so badly.....but do they need deliverance first in order to be able to be saved.? The powerless body is a major source of doubt even among some Christians. I think that is very true....and receiving a healing or deliverance goes a long way to opening a person's heart to the gospel.
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Post by frienduff on Nov 24, 2019 11:11:10 GMT -5
The powerless body is a major source of doubt even among some Christians. I think that is very true....and receiving a healing or deliverance goes a long way to opening a person's heart to the gospel. It does . But if it aint followed with the true gospel and telling folks to REPENT and believe and its leaders do not focus on the bible and sound doctrine and its miracles are mainly ones that can be manipulated and yet why do they not heal the ones WE KNOW are blind or paralyzed . WHY the big ado about miracles that can be manipulate . If I see one more leg growing longer and yet the blind and those we know are truly sick and truly in need of healing OVER LOOKED , I think I will pass out . Simeon the magician gave himself to be SOME BIG man of GOD , yet I wonder how his miracles looked and how his doctrine sounded . Folks get way too easily caught up with signs and wonders and never notice , these same leaders Never focus on bible doctrine reading in their churches they focus on signs and wonders and etc . Course we got some that become totally against all gifts etc , THAT is a major evil too . But folks we gotta rightly do things . Paul had mighty miracles , so did peter , so did john , so did james . YET LOOK AT THE DOCTRINE and attitude and approach IN THIER LETTERS . Compare THIER DOCTRINE to these and their doctrine TODAY . WE GONNA SEE SOMETHING IS MISSING BIG TIME .
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Post by frienduff on Nov 24, 2019 11:24:12 GMT -5
The key is don't compare the miracles as PROOF one follows JESUS . Because miracles can be manipulated . IF you want to truly know what tree a leader is truly of , COMPARE HIS DOCTRINE and HIS APPROACH to JESUS and to the apostels . And the latter is WHERE I SEE MAJOR LACKING in many who do lead and teach today . The original pattern was , to get men built up to the faith and doctrine of the apostles ,and every generation should have kept with it . While signs and wonders do follow true men , if the doctrine and approach and pattern don't mimic the apostels and CHRIST LOOK OUT . because truly seasoned men , SHOULD long have this deep engrained in their hearts and be able to TEACH and build others up to THIS SAME then they build others up and so on the torch is carried onward . I don't look to signs and wonders alone to prove one is of GOD , I LOOK to what they teach or LEAVE UNDONE . LEADERS must be seasoned and any true leader would sound like JESUS DID and the apostels did , and would not focus on PARTS of the bible and letters but rather the whole of them , rightly divided . LEADERS are the ones who should be ensuring the flock is getting built up and into a place where men cannot with fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple , and even those in the flock have their part too . I will leave us with some of JESUS last words on earth , RIGHT nigh before HE was to suffer . WHEN the apostels had asked HIM , what it would look like nigh HIS COMING . BUT IN those days MANY FALSE ones shall arise and lead many astray . Inquity abouding and many hearts waxing cold against the True love that LOVES HIM above all and then one another as our own self . BE ON GAURD everyone . I SAY this because with every ounce of my entire heart mind and soul I do love the brethren and I do desire not one to be lost . WE GOTTA LOOK out for one another . WE got to be exhorting more than EVER on bible sound doctrine , on ALL the wholesome words of JESUS , and do so and much more as we see the day Approaching . NOW got take a read on Mathew twenty four , mark thirteen , luke seventeen and twenty one . on the latter part of thess and in second thess in timothy chapter four and second time chapter three, in the letters of peter , AND YOU SEE what they SAID concering the latter days . PAY ATTENTION to what they said . And look how different the many do approach the end time TODAY . WE will fast see WE GOT MAJOR PROBLEMS . Just let the reminders of CHRIST and of the apostels FLOOD IN HEARTS and minds and BE ready .
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Post by PG4Him on Nov 24, 2019 11:25:43 GMT -5
Honestly it isn’t so much about magic tricks or dramatic public shows. It isn’t so much about theatrical signs. The modern Christian body, by and large, is utterly powerless to get people free from bondages, addictions, diseases, and perpetual failure. Many, many devout Christian believers pray for decades on end for healings that never come, financial help that never comes, family salvations that never happen, and deliverances that don’t seen to stick. We can’t keep saying all of them are double-minded sinners. This is what has led a lot of people into cessationism, because healings and miracles simply don’t seem to be happening anymore, and anyone who does it in public is INSTANTLY attacked as a witch by someone or other.
The modern body, even holiness people, is not really like the New Testament. Not at all. If we’re really living like the apostles, we ought to see people healed and delivered all over the place. Peter and Paul raised up dead people. No one sat around back then and said, well yeah but what does that prove? Would you tell Luke to his face that he was too wrapped up in talking about miracles? Either miraculous healings are part of the pattern, or they aren’t.
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